Thread: Possibly the key to lucid dreaming?

2 lucids last night doing this and MILD.

Lemme tell you all something. If you're a lazy person such as myself I would definitely recommend to you this method combined with MILD. This way you don't have to crawl out of bed miserably at god knows how early in the morning. (Unless you really like doing that sort of thing.)

This is cool stuff, try it out everyone.

Originally Posted by ThePieMan

Lemme tell you all something. If you're a lazy person such as myself I would definitely recommend to you this method combined with MILD. This way you don't have to crawl out of bed miserably at god knows how early in the morning. (Unless you really like doing that sort of thing.)

This is cool stuff, try it out everyone.

I'm a lazy person haha. I much rather like to plan things than actually do them.

But I do think that everyone can benifit from this, along with MILD and ADA. They're all related. I think I'll try adding them all together and see how it goes, though I find ADA very difficult.

Wait... I shouldn't think that

Originally Posted by Raspberry

I'm a lazy person haha. I much rather like to plan things than actually do them.

But I do think that everyone can benifit from this, along with MILD and ADA. They're all related. I think I'll try adding them all together and see how it goes, though I find ADA very difficult.

Wait... I shouldn't think that

I tried adding them all together.
This created a resonance cascade scenario, with aftershocks that contained microscopic black holes and waffles.

iv been doing this all week my dreams are much more clear and iv came close to lucid. i was dreaming i was dr who and some reason the fbi or men in black banned me from currys. i sort of ran and they started shooting at me i tryed to fly but got shot in the head which i felt and woke up it was weird lol so random

I've been doing this the last few nights, last night was my birthday, and of course lucidity was only a secondary concern. So I didn't try, I just did, by not becoming focused on the why's and how's (I had no mantras, I wasn't visualising, I didn't WBTB, etc.). What I did have was a quiet but sure confidence that that night would be my night, and it was. Once you let go of the shackles of Lucid dreaming as being something only a handful of people can achieve, that it is hard work etc. You just do it, and don't worry about it.

Natural Lucid Dreamers never get hung up about techniques, they might not be aware of them, they just lucid dream, it's what they do. You do, too.

Simply through this method and practicing awareness, I've trained my subconscious to wake me up during a dream so I can lucid dream. I don't keep a dream journal, don't do any mantras, totems etc. I actually don't do anything. Now as long as I remind myself there is some importance to lucid dreaming, I will at least become aware I'm dreaming once a night. However, since I lack keeping a dream journal they're not as clear and vivid as they could be and sometimes I won't remember I had a lucid dream till an hour or so after waking up. I should probably start recording my dreams now that I type this out and think about it lol.

Originally Posted by Ctharlhie

I've been doing this the last few nights, last night was my birthday, and of course lucidity was only a secondary concern. So I didn't try, I just did, by not becoming focused on the why's and how's (I had no mantras, I wasn't visualising, I didn't WBTB, etc.). What I did have was a quiet but sure confidence that that night would be my night, and it was. Once you let go of the shackles of Lucid dreaming as being something only a handful of people can achieve, that it is hard work etc. You just do it, and don't worry about it.

Natural Lucid Dreamers never get hung up about techniques, they might not be aware of them, they just lucid dream, it's what they do. You do, too.

This is exactly how it works for me! I think many people using this technique are "trying" a bit too much. But what is the difference between trying and knowing? For me trying is when you continue to tell yourself that you are going to have a lucid dream that night in bed. But if you knew that you would have a lucid dream that night, why would you continue to repeat that in your head?

I didn't get this simple fact before I started to look into my own dreams a bit more. First I started to look at what I did differently when I had my lucid dreams, of course I looked in all the wrong places. Was it the food I ate? The things I did? The time I went to sleep?

Well, I tried to completely replicate all of those little things and guess what I got? Absolutely nothing. I was left dumbstruck, if I did everything in the exact same way as I did when I had my lucid dream, why wouldn't I get one then?

Then it struck me, no small thing would make me lucid, because the only thing holding me back was myself. What held me back was my own state of mind. Every single lucid I've had throughout the years have been successful due to my state of mind.

So what was my state of mind like when I had my lucid dreams? Perhaps I thought much about lucid dreaming before bed? Maybe I played some game to make me more alert? Nope, the only thing I did was being careless about lucid dreaming, I didn't focus my strength at becoming lucid. I focused my strength at falling asleep.

So, what did I do when I failed my lucid dreams then? I pressured myself. I continued to think about lucid dreaming at night, trying to induce it by thinking hard about dreaming and by doing that i increased the already high pressure even more. It didn't matter if I fully believed that I was going to lucid dream, by pressuring myself at night I managed to destroy my chances of having lucid dreams.

I wish I would've seen my facial expression when I came to that conclusion. I think it was something in between of looking extremely happy but at the same time extremely dumb. This simple thing had flown past me millions of times and I didn't give it a thought at all. For years I sat and repeated my mantras, tried to fall asleep while aware and thought about lucid dreaming. But the only thing I needed to do was to look into myself and figure lucid dreaming out for myself.

The "method" i use in a nutshell:
1 (optional). I meditate about an hour before bed to make my thoughts more manageable. This makes it easier for me to induce the dreamscapes I want to visit (horray for cool dreamscapes!)
2. I go to bed and sleep. (If you have a hard time feeling careless about lucid dreaming try to think of it as something less important. You could pretend that you have a big test at school tomorrow and you really need to be 100% awake in the morning, so you don't have time to think about lucid dreaming.)
3. I lucid dream

If you choose to meditate you could use that to reinforce the fact that you're going to have lucid dreams tonight (or every night ).

So if anyone feels like they're trying a bit too hard, stop trying. Watch some movies, play some games, read some books or simply chill out. You are going to get your lucid dreams anyway!

(TLDR; I agree with Ctharlhie, don't focus so much on lucid dreaming at night, confidence is key, over-thinking is not.)

I should point out that my lucids were technically DILDs, I had a sense of something being not quite right and RC'd.

Would I have done so had I not convinced myself I was a natural lucid dreamer through positive reinforcement is the question.

I did a WILD using this just about an hour ago. I just felt like "I'm gonna WILD" and I went to sleep slowly drifting off THEN out of nowhere my awareness spiked up and I caught myself having a thought that made no sense. I stayed still and I WILDed. . When I was in the dream I had some trouble. I got up but I couldn't see anything. It was like I was blind. I felt my way around to the front door of my house and thought "I CONTROL MY DREAMS, THE ONLY REASON WHY I CAN'T SEE ANYTHING IS BECAUSE I'M HOLDING MYSELF BACK" Then everything slowly brightened up and clarity increased. I did this WILD very easily. So yes, I believe that the only thing holding back people from lucid dreaming is themselves.

Originally Posted by Ctharlhie

I should point out that my lucids were technically DILDs, I had a sense of something being not quite right and RC'd.

Would I have done so had I not convinced myself I was a natural lucid dreamer through positive reinforcement is the question.

That sure is the question... Well not that it really matters in the long run though. As long as you get lucid dreams it should be alright . Something I would advise you to do is to learn more about how you get lucid dreams from the nights you have lucids on. I don't think that any technique is created for every person in mind, they are more like stepping stones to find your own method. Some of those stepping stones does wonders for some and nothing at all for others. I think you've found a stepping stone that might work for you, and from now on it's up to you to see if it's the perfect base for you to have lucid dreams with.

I hope that, in time, you'll be able to answer your own question. Until then I'll be more than happy to look at your progress

thank you, Silverbullet, after reading this, I LITERALLY had a DILD today. I let all the negative feelings, stresses about failing LDs everyday, I just let it all go, I tried to calm myself thinking "lucid dream? pfff. I do that everyday. I dont need to think hard about it" and then I went to sleep, then boom!! DILD worked. thank you so much, this really is a valuable lesson for me. now I can practice dream controlling!!

Originally Posted by Windhover@

thank you, Silverbullet, after reading this, I LITERALLY had a DILD today. I let all the negative feelings, stresses about failing LDs everyday, I just let it all go, I tried to calm myself thinking "lucid dream? pfff. I do that everyday. I dont need to think hard about it" and then I went to sleep, then boom!! DILD worked. thank you so much, this really is a valuable lesson for me. now I can practice dream controlling!!

I'm glad it worked for you! You're a perfect example of using this technique.

So last night, I created a quite confidence, but thought nothing more on it before going to bed. To be honest it was more of a fleeting atmosphere while I was falling asleep. I didn't have a lucid dream, but I don't count this as a fail at all, because I believe in practice.

Also, usually when I don't WBTB I only recall on dream per night. Today I recalled two lengthy dreams which were very vivid. In these dreams I had a feeling that something was off. I think that in the back of my mind I knew I was dreaming. Also, during the dream I recall myself thinking "I lucid dream every night, it's so easy."

Semi-success! I still have that kind of confident, "knowing" atmosphere with me so I'll just sleep tonight and lucid dream.

Here is a nice quote, I can't remember where I heard it from or who said it but it goes along the lines of something like this:

"Some people think it's holding on that makes one strong, sometimes it's letting go."

Originally Posted by SilverBullet

Here is a nice quote, I can't remember where I heard it from or who said it but it goes along the lines of something like this:
"Some people think it's holding on that makes one strong, sometimes it's letting go."

That is SO true!

Hear soon
Dicci0308

glad to hear this has been working for people
we underestimate the importance of mindset in being successful with lucid dreaming

Originally Posted by Flying Spaghetti Monster

we underestimate the importance of mindset in being successful

fixed

Whoa, this actually works! I haven't yet had a lucid with this, but in the first night I rmember hearing "This is a dream!!!" as I woke up. In the last (2nd). I got the feeling that something was off.

Tonight I went to bed knowing I would have had a lucid and that I would have been conscious of being awake after each rem cycle. I succeeded in recalling 5 endless dreams, got up after each rem cycle and used one of those awakenings inducing a massive WILD. I felt like I was multiple people because in each dream I was someone else but ultimately none of them, just me.... awesome!

That sounds awesome Mirror!

No lucid last night, but once again I remember two vivid dreams where I felt something was up. It's just a matter of time I think!

It surely is Raspberry
Just a suggestion, don't think about time. The moment you give yourself more time you create an inconscious gap between you and your goal projecting it into an indefinite future. Simply know you can now, you don't need anything else, and if you don't succeed don't even think about it, it doesn't really matter after all, because in the end you'll get what you want and when it will be it's going to be...... guess what? The Now

Remembered three dreams last night (though I forgot to write them down so they're kinda fragmented, I remembered them fully at the time though) and in one of them I thought "I lucid dream everday, I get shit loads of lucid dreams." But I didn't recognize I was actually dreaming! But of course, I always recognize when I'm dreaming

I haven't been thinking about lucid dreaming since about February because of school but a few nights ago I read through this thread. I went to bed thinking "I lucid dream. Its just natural to me. I'm doing it now." That night I had my first in a long time. The next night it didnt work tho, but I was having some doubts.

2 lucids last night, 10 more till I hit 200 lucid dreams.