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      The best and free dream supplement!!!

      I have found a dreaming aid that has completely surpassed my expectations. However you can't buy this dreaming aid (Well maybe you can, I guess I haven't looked on ebay yet).
      What is it? Having a bad cold. . For the past three days I've been incredibly sick but in my dreams I have been more active then ever. My first dream went along the lines of having to conquer the unniverse, fighting 4 battles, training a dragon, fixing a piano, destroying a planet and making deals with around 20 people. I swear I have never had such an intense, complex, dense and amazing dream before. Everything fitted and made sense.
      But it didn't end there, I had an almost equally intricate dream and then another sexual dream that has far surpassed even the amazing things I have done when taking menthol.
      There is something to this, any got any ideas?

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      I need to try that *searches 'bad cold' on ebay*.
      Amazing dreams, but I feel healthier than ever today.
      I really don't know what's actually going on here but I remember my friends also telling me they had really vivid dreams when they fell sick.
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      So is this the same with a fever? Because last week I had one of 38.5°C, I slept a lot really but when I get to sleep, my muscles were in terrible pain, awful headache, stuffy nose, I just couldn't think of lucid at all.

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      Quote Originally Posted by XaldiN View Post
      So is this the same with a fever? Because last week I had one of 38.5°C, I slept a lot really but when I get to sleep, my muscles were in terrible pain, awful headache, stuffy nose, I just couldn't think of lucid at all.
      Well as I would have expected everyone seems to have a different response to fever and colds, I don't however know if it really is a lucid aid, I just know that it made them vivid which in turn made a lot of the scenes full of unrealistic things giving me more to reality check on.

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      Dutchraptor, you are a genius. I've been having much more vivid dreams lately, and I have been unable to understand why... maybe it's because I've been sick for the past few weeks! *stops taking cough drops and Cold-Eeze tablets* maybe I can ride this one out for a little while longer...!

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      Quote Originally Posted by SnowyCat View Post
      Dutchraptor, you are a genius. I've been having much more vivid dreams lately, and I have been unable to understand why... maybe it's because I've been sick for the past few weeks! *stops taking cough drops and Cold-Eeze tablets* maybe I can ride this one out for a little while longer...!
      Hahah I figured that while I have the cold I might as well make the most of it
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      ok I guess I just missed out many fun by not taking advantage of this. But yeah I remember being sick in the bed all day when I was young, many hallucinations and SP experiences

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      "Fever dreams" (translated directly from Danish, i got no idea if there is a english name for it) is the name for extremely vivid/realistic/complex dreams that you can get when you are sick.

      The higher fever you get, the more insane these can be.

      When I was 8 I had a fever of almost 41c°, and this caused me to hallucinate like crazy! I saw giant hamburgers jumping towards me, trying to eat me and all other sorts of weird stuff. My mom carried me around, but I couldn't see her at all. You could actually say i dreamt while being awake.
      While this doesn't describe the vividness of actual dreams, it kinda shows that your brain goes nuts when you are sick.

      When people (atleast here in Denmark) says that they had an insane dream while being sick, older people often responds; "Oh, that's just a fever dream".
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      Quote Originally Posted by Buhl View Post
      "Fever dreams" (translated directly from Danish, i got no idea if there is a english name for it) is the name for extremely vivid/realistic/complex dreams that you can get when you are sick.

      The higher fever you get, the more insane these can be.

      When I was 8 I had a fever of almost 41c°, and this caused me to hallucinate like crazy! I saw giant hamburgers jumping towards me, trying to eat me and all other sorts of weird stuff. My mom carried me around, but I couldn't see her at all. You could actually say i dreamt while being awake.
      While this doesn't describe the vividness of actual dreams, it kinda shows that your brain goes nuts when you are sick.

      When people (atleast here in Denmark) says that they had an insane dream while being sick, older people often responds; "Oh, that's just a fever dream".
      That is awesome, thank you for sharing

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      That's one of the few advantages of being sick, I guess. It's a great comfort after a long day of being sick to go to sleep and have amazingly vivid dreams. Too bad there's no way to bottle the effect without having to suffer through your cold.

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      But maybe there is??? there has to be some kind of reaction that is replicatable with supplements. Although I wouldn't assume they would be worth taking as they propably increase body temperature or something like that

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      Quote Originally Posted by Buhl View Post
      "Fever dreams" (translated directly from Danish, i got no idea if there is a english name for it) is the name for extremely vivid/realistic/complex dreams that you can get when you are sick.

      The higher fever you get, the more insane these can be.

      When I was 8 I had a fever of almost 41c°, and this caused me to hallucinate like crazy! I saw giant hamburgers jumping towards me, trying to eat me and all other sorts of weird stuff. My mom carried me around, but I couldn't see her at all. You could actually say i dreamt while being awake.
      While this doesn't describe the vividness of actual dreams, it kinda shows that your brain goes nuts when you are sick.

      When people (atleast here in Denmark) says that they had an insane dream while being sick, older people often responds; "Oh, that's just a fever dream".
      Man, I need to get out of America one of these days just for the ultra cool cultural experience. As for replicating things such as fevers, fevers are generally caused by the hypothalamus, so messing with these hormones

      http://users.rcn.com/jkimball.ma.ult...othalamus.html

      may produce similar results. I doubt that is safe, though
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      Quote Originally Posted by dutchraptor View Post
      But maybe there is??? there has to be some kind of reaction that is replicatable with supplements. Although I wouldn't assume they would be worth taking as they propably increase body temperature or something like that
      If you like living on the edge, you can try datura. Datura will make you see the same demented stuff, even things like Buhl's hamburgers will become entirely commonplace. Heck, it's likely you'll even actually get a fever from it and the hallucinations will just be intensified. Quite honestly, it's mechanism of action could be somehow related to this. It can also cause extremely vivid and/or bizarre dreams and they'll often have sexual content. Some people use small amounts (2-3 seeds usually) of datura to enhance their dreams. Earlier joke aside though, anything larger than that is highly cautioned against. Datura is a very toxic plant in recreational doses.

      When a friend and I tripped on diphenhydramine for the first time, which is an anticholinergic like datura, he also had a dream where he was taking over the universe like you mentioned. So that definitely makes me think there might be a link there.

      By the way, you could try diphenhydramine in regular doses for it too, but I wouldn't recommend it. That stuff is bad for you in the long-term and has other effects too that might skew the results.

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      Hahaha that is pretty crazy. Diphenhydramine looks pretty, well dangerous . The symptoms of dature and diphenhydramine sound similar to belladonna, I recognized anticholinergic. I've always found it funny how women used to dilate their pupils with the "beautifull lady" plant, even do it has strong delirious effects and a few to several berries can kill you or leave you quite shaken up.
      Now I actually remember a guy telling me never to take datura because it's just like belladonna, I think it was in italy. Intresting, looking at the side effects, diphenhydramine seems to have little advantage over it's huge amount of unadvantages.

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      Belladonna and datura contain the same general alkaloids, the difference is just in content. Belladonna has lots of atropine, which is the most physically dangerous of the major tropane anticholinergics. A datura strain like Datura stramonium should be higher in scopolamine however, which makes it (just slightly) safer and a bit more useful for hallucinations or dreams. It's also a bit more euphoric and sexual than atropine, though both plants contain both. Diphenhydramine is worse than either of them. Its "recreational" anticholinergic doses, which are bad for you enough as it is, coincide with toxic antihistamine effects. It's a pretty all-around miserable experience, except when you're so delirious that you don't even remember who you are. >.>

      And yeah, it's stupid. X) You won't catch me putting tropanes in my eyes. I like being able to see as well as I can.

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      Hi there, I would strongly suggest you don't take any of these dangerous enhancers to get a lucid dream! Making yourself seriously ill is not worth a lucid dream. Play safe and just read about them, do reality checks and the norm. Also try using the lucid dream timer on lucidology.com as that works well. Honestly refrain from taking stuff like that or one day you may not live to regret it!!!
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      I guess it depends on who you are, every time I'm sick I never have vivid dreams or remember anything at all for that matter.
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      Quote Originally Posted by alyzarin View Post
      it can also cause extremely vivid and/or bizarre dreams and they'll often have sexual content.
      count me in!
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      Quote Originally Posted by Alyzarin View Post
      Belladonna and datura contain the same general alkaloids, the difference is just in content. Belladonna has lots of atropine, which is the most physically dangerous of the major tropane anticholinergics. A datura strain like Datura stramonium should be higher in scopolamine however, which makes it (just slightly) safer and a bit more useful for hallucinations or dreams. It's also a bit more euphoric and sexual than atropine, though both plants contain both. Diphenhydramine is worse than either of them. Its "recreational" anticholinergic doses, which are bad for you enough as it is, coincide with toxic antihistamine effects. It's a pretty all-around miserable experience, except when you're so delirious that you don't even remember who you are. >.>

      And yeah, it's stupid. X) You won't catch me putting tropanes in my eyes. I like being able to see as well as I can.
      Diphenhydramine is very safe in low doses. Dautra can kill you dead. Regardless of the strain. It also tends to give creepy or uncomfortable effects. I never ever recommend dautra. bad stuff.
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      Maybe the reason for for the intense dreams is two-fold. First, being sick means more time in bed which means more time asleep, ergo more dreams. Secondly, being physically uncomfortable lends itself to a greater awareness in dreams. I know this is true as I have had tinnitus for decades and I believe that the constant ringing in my ears helps bring about more lucid dreams then most normal people. Just a thought. Get better soon (but enjoy the intense dreams while they last!)

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      Quote Originally Posted by sivason View Post
      Diphenhydramine is very safe in low doses. Dautra can kill you dead. Regardless of the strain. It also tends to give creepy or uncomfortable effects. I never ever recommend dautra. bad stuff.
      Datura is just as safe in low doses, like 2-3 seeds, and it's still better than taking an antihistamine every day. Atropine and scopolamine have been used safely medically for a long time, and scopolamine treatment was even found to have antidepressant effects. I already said in my earlier post that I'd strongly caution against using it recreationally.

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