Thread: Trying Gravity RC for several weeks

Originally Posted by Azul

Good luck with this, I will say having prior LD knowledge and experiences will help out a bit. Don't get caught up with whether you're doing it "right or wrong" just do what feels natural to you. After while you'll find that you'll start to develop your own variation of Gravity RC. Since it's a different aspect of awareness it will take some to be learned, if you will. Side note: DO NOT USE LOGIC WHEN YOU RC!

Thanks for the advice! So this RC is more of an observation of your weight and the actual reality checking part is inherent to the process, right? I guess when you observe a strange gravity that should automatically clue you in that you're dreaming without having to think about it? I like the way that works! My least favorite part of traditional RCs is that you have to take the time to question everything in your head, so not thinking is fine with me .

Had an interesting "close encounter" last night. Did basic WBTB around 7:30 (college ftw!) and went back to bed. Set my intention to get lucid from questioning gravity in a dream. Had a string of dreams, and seemed to wake up after each one. This kept my task at the forefront of my mind I guess. Finally ended up in a dream where someone gave me a new board game, so naturally I started shaking it to see what's inside. For some reason, I thought about doing the Gravity RC to make sure everything is legit. I focused on how the board game felt in my hand while shaking it, but it felt perfectly real, even down to the individual vibrations made when each little game piece hits the box...Said no way this could be a dream, and kept on dreaming.

Guess I should've focused on my body instead of what I was holding. I'm sure my dream body would've been less convincing. Anyway I'm super excited that I questioned a dream with Gravity RC. Of course that's with WBTB involved but I'll take what I can get .

Just a quick aside:

Originally Posted by Zangetsu

...My least favorite part of traditional RCs is that you have to take the time to question everything in your head, so not thinking is fine with me

In a "traditional" RC there is no need to question everything, and very little (if any) thinking involved. All you should be doing is checking a single physical object, like a clock or the back of your hand, and then rechecking it to see if it is the same as is was. The only question you ought to be asking yourself is "Is this a dream?" and if you are taking more than a few seconds to do your RC, then you are taking way too much time.

I'm not sure where all the complications about RC's came from -- probably from people feeling a need to make them more important, I suppose. Shame they (those complications) got so popular, as they've made state testing difficult and perhaps caused them to miss the point altogether.

As long as I'm here: Hukif's gravity RC is very much a traditional one, though with a most excellent twist.

... just sayin'

Originally Posted by Zangetsu

Well in that case...

The only thing I can really think to hone in on is the normal force the ground exerts on my feet/body as I'm walking/sitting/laying. I have no clue where or how to look for gravity in the rest of my body when I'm not touching something...

I have plenty of experiences with weird gravity in my dreams however. I often get slowed/weighted down by SP (yeah that's right I said SP ), and I also have had many OBE exits in which case my body felt light as a feather. Should I focus more on how dream gravity is weird or try to hone in on how waking gravity is normal? And I've tried the holding an item in one hand thing but I don't get much feedback from it...

Thanks for helping out, Hukif!

As humans we use two things the most, our eyes and our hands so have you tried using your hands as a starting point for these no-touching times? But I would say more on how waking gravity is normal; the rest comes through instinct since it is "abnormal".

Also, maybe you need a heavier object? lol
But yeah, that is just to get the basic idea of what makes something "normal/abnormal" rather than a way to practice the RC.

Originally Posted by Sageous

Just a quick aside:
In a "traditional" RC there is no need to question everything, and very little (if any) thinking involved. All you should be doing is checking a single physical object, like a clock or the back of your hand, and then rechecking it to see if it is the same as is was. The only question you ought to be asking yourself is "Is this a dream?" and if you are taking more than a few seconds to do your RC, then you are taking way too much time.

I'm not sure where all the complications about RC's came from -- probably from people feeling a need to make them more important, I suppose. Shame they (those complications) got so popular, as they've made state testing difficult and perhaps caused them to miss the point altogether.

As long as I'm here: Hukif's gravity RC is very much a traditional one, though with a most excellent twist.

... just sayin'

Very well put! I am of the opinion that "if a RC is life taxing, you are doing it wrong" but... yeah. I think it just went crazy after someone proposed making questions during a RC, and then people wanted to make the practice of questioning better and just added dead weight to it?

I think it was also after ADA that people started to correlate the all-day-awareness with gravity RC, I was at the time, unhappy with calling gravity RC an awareness excercise and now its just sunk on me that its normal.

Originally Posted by Sageous

I'm not sure where all the complications about RC's came from -- probably from people feeling a need to make them more important, I suppose. Shame they (those complications) got so popular, as they've made state testing difficult and perhaps caused them to miss the point altogether.

I know where they came from for me at least - from ETWOLD and Tholey's modified reflection-intention technique, where you do the RC, imagine everything is a dream and carrying out your goals. It did yield quick results for me, but was taxing my WL activities too much and killed my motivation (which led to my first drop off LDing), and also made me wonder about the nature of the LDs it produced as I felt I was dream incubating everything.
On the other hand the Gravity RC is probably one of the less taxing RCs around, although it is quite difficult to wrap your head around, and much more to practice it all day as Hukif does.