Thread: DEILD/ WILD help

Hi all, I’m now 8 months into my Lucid dreaming journey. I’m at a comfortable place with DILDs and looking to have more WILDs/ DEILDs. (A New Years resolution I suppose!)

So far I’ve had 3 successful DEILDs but all 3 were sort of spontaneous (or so they seemed!) I usually awake from a dream when it happens but not fully and remain in that sleepy in between state and manage to transition from there.

The numerous times I’ve tried to do it willingly after waking though I have failed. I struggle with getting back to sleep and probably wake myself up too much by focusing on the methods.

So I have a few questions which I was hoping to get some advice on.

1. How much should I recall?

So the first problem I’ve identified is perhaps too much emphasis on dream recall when I wake up. So I often wake naturally after 4-6 hours of sleep I assume after a REM cycle has finished and do WBTB. When I wake I often spend 5-10 minutes recalling my dreams and can usually remember a few. Then if I’m attempting WILD I will try to get back to sleep whilst keeping awareness but I can never get back to sleep. I was wondering if I’m spending too long recalling? Should I wake up, not open my eyes, forget recall and go straight into a DEILD attempt so I can catch the last moments of my REM cycle?

2. No alarm

I never use alarms. I share a bed with my partner and don’t want to wake her unnecessarily. I’ve also gotten quite good at waking naturally but I fear I’m waking at the end of my REM cycles so when I then attempt WILD I’m not doing it at the optimal time. Do you rely an alarms to make sure you wake and attempt it at the beginning of a cycle?

3. Anchor

So the final question, what anchors do people suggest? I assume the answer varies and it’s worth trying a few. I’ve tried breathing, visualising, counting, hypnagogic observing, mantras and sounds. It could be that one of these will work for me eventually if I time it right but not sure which would be best? Is it all about timing?!

Thanks in advance for all your help.