Thread: Spiritual entities on the dream plane

Pfft, try going at it for 8 years with 0 success and dedicating all your free time on it, that is everything but school time.
ALso, I totally thought the SDC was Super DC lol

I think if you sleep for longer periods of time you increase the probability of spontaneous lucid dreams or recognizing that you are dreaming.

For anyone who is struggling I'd recommend sleeping a regular nights sleep (7-9 hrs or so, depending on who you are) and then wake up naturally. After you wake up think about the last dream you where in, think about the environment and what you were doing. Now, stop thinking. Let your mind drift back into sleep, and let your consciousness of this 'reality' drift back into the dreaming plane. Hopefully, you'll show up where you left off in your most recent dream and hopefully you recognize this and then become partially lucid. I think the trick is not concentrating too hard while you are in 'waking' reality -- let your mind comfortably drift back to 'dreaming' reality. Too much focus in 'waking' reality will keep you grounded in 'waking' reality, whereas if you try to shift more of your focus or consciousness towards your 'dreaming' reality then you will become more aware.

Back to the DC thing: I think it would be interesting if we all work together to find a "special" dream character, then after we have a few legitimate options we could vote on which "special" dream character to interact with. After we decide our target (for the month) we will all try to contact this dream character and we will record our experiences (privately) for that month then after the month is over we would release details at the same time to see if they match up. This, to me, would be most 'scientific,' though I despise that word. It also would be a good idea to try to get information about what 'dream plane' we are operating on while lucid dreaming, if we can find a name to our location that would be helpful.

Let me know what you think, guys (and girls).

I award you the "Scientists science award of scientific science" due to your scientific contributions to this rather unscientific thread that supposed to scientific.

Yea, that is probably the best way to learn about these DCs.

On the LD suggestion, that is good for when you can sleep in in the morning. But if you are like me and have to get up early, I think quickly getting up in the middle of the night to WILD is the best.

I'm a molecular biology major, so I know a thing or two about science. I appreciate the award. Hopefully no bad connotations come along with such a prestigious mark.

Also yea, I agree with you. That method I described only works for people without responsibilities who want to 'waste' a day sleeping..

Waking up in the middle of the night works, but I get cranky

Here is my unofficial award:



You've earned it.


So, as said many times, lets get our LDing butts in gear and dream up some special DCs.

P.S. I think Dreamviews should make an official award thing like above.

So like have any of you guys had any interesting dreams with weird dcs or even some character you encountered who might be another entity? Ya know you dream every night even if your not lucid. And this shit happens when your not lucid to. Just normally non lucid dreams (at least for me) have crazy interesting stories, where as in most of my lucids I just sit around and do nothing or smoke weed or something.

Does getting rid of the trauma caused by the curse on my DG count?

Originally Posted by Aaeull

I think if you sleep for longer periods of time you increase the probability of spontaneous lucid dreams or recognizing that you are dreaming.

For anyone who is struggling I'd recommend sleeping a regular nights sleep (7-9 hrs or so, depending on who you are) and then wake up naturally. After you wake up think about the last dream you where in, think about the environment and what you were doing. Now, stop thinking. Let your mind drift back into sleep, and let your consciousness of this 'reality' drift back into the dreaming plane. Hopefully, you'll show up where you left off in your most recent dream and hopefully you recognize this and then become partially lucid. I think the trick is not concentrating too hard while you are in 'waking' reality -- let your mind comfortably drift back to 'dreaming' reality. Too much focus in 'waking' reality will keep you grounded in 'waking' reality, whereas if you try to shift more of your focus or consciousness towards your 'dreaming' reality then you will become more aware.

thus you have my problem. if i read you right, then i can't do that technique because i never remember a time where i wasn't thinking about SOMETHING. i can't clear my head of thoughts, i've tried. whenever i try to i end up thinking about not thinking (if that makes any sense).

Originally Posted by Hukif

Does getting rid of the trauma caused by the curse on my DG count?

Please explain.

Me? I kind of took without permission some thoughts from my DG and took her to where her little brother died and ressurected him, thats the short version. I'm certain that worked on taking some of her trauma from being cursed away.

thats kind of weird. You resurrected him? what was he a dc? is you DG a dc? Or is it a part of something else?

Mostly what I've been doing in my dreams lately is going to hell and fighting demons, going to another world where I collect energy and speak to other entities and fight with them. Talk to my dream guide. Hang out on my mushrooms planet where I often am ambushed by furry people (dcs) who used to be my friends but I killed everyone in their village so now they attack me, but last night I completely burned and destroyed everything on the mushroom planet and am going to rebuild it because it was starting to tire me out kind of. Also I do other stuff thats kind of personal that Id don't want to talk about plus many other random dreams and other places I've visited.

Well as I said before, while in a dream I treat every single DC equally, so can't answer the something else thingy. I know she is a cancelor though, also yeah, I ressurected him.

So much killing! And so little at the same time, not like I can comment anything on that lol

Originally Posted by saltyseedog

thats kind of weird. You resurrected him? what was he a dc? is you DG a dc? Or is it a part of something else?

Mostly what I've been doing in my dreams lately is going to hell and fighting demons, going to another world where I collect energy and speak to other entities and fight with them. Talk to my dream guide. Hang out on my mushrooms planet where I often am ambushed by furry people (dcs) who used to be my friends but I killed everyone in their village so now they attack me, but last night I completely burned and destroyed everything on the mushroom planet and am going to rebuild it because it was starting to tire me out kind of. Also I do other stuff thats kind of personal that Id don't want to talk about plus many other random dreams and other places I've visited.

I'm guessing you have LDs very often. Did you even look for one of these DCs yet?

which one? I haven't really been following all the stuff you guys have been saying

Originally Posted by saltyseedog

which one? I haven't really been following all the stuff you guys have been saying

Any one, as it appears so far, each person has one of their own special entities.

Well basically you have things in your dreams that are a part of you or an aspect of yourself or an aspect of your consciousness and they are your "energy". They represent whats going on inside of you. If there was another entity in your dream that would mean that their energy is inside your dream if that makes sense. For one, their dream body or avatar or whatever the main vehicle they use to be in your dream. Their dream body will be within their energy body which is basically their aura which is all the aspects of their consciousness. Their dream characters are not your energy. You may not have direct control over them. Sometimes foreign energy gets in our dreams and we can trace it back to the source. Foreign energy may take the form of a dream character. My dream guide is actually the dream character of another more powerful entity. He has his own individuated consciousness from the entity. I have dream characters that are always there in my dreams (even after I kill them) they say I am a part of them and they are a part of me but they are there own sentience. They exist in my dream worlds even when I'm not there. They are different colors in my aura. the different colors represent different aspects of my consciousness. It is my own energy that has its own sentience. they are a part of me, they are my energy but they are individuated. Basically if you really want to know that what you are seeing is another entity or not part of yourself you have to learn to see. When you look at a person or an animal or any living creature you get a particular feeling. You can feel their emotions or intent. Or their "vibes". Look into someones eyes you can feel their emotions and thoughts. Practice doing this with people. Looking into their eyes and feeling. feeling what they are feeling. As you develop this skill you can apply it to dreams and know that what you are seeing is not a part of yourself. Sorry its kind of all over the place how I described it but I tried my best

Originally Posted by saltyseedog

Well basically you have things in your dreams that are a part of you or an aspect of yourself or an aspect of your consciousness and they are your "energy". They represent whats going on inside of you. If there was another entity in your dream that would mean that their energy is inside your dream if that makes sense. For one, their dream body or avatar or whatever the main vehicle they use to be in your dream. Their dream body will be within their energy body which is basically their aura which is all the aspects of their consciousness. Their dream characters are not your energy. You may not have direct control over them. Sometimes foreign energy gets in our dreams and we can trace it back to the source. Foreign energy may take the form of a dream character. My dream guide is actually the dream character of another more powerful entity. He has his own individuated consciousness from the entity. I have dream characters that are always there in my dreams (even after I kill them) they say I am a part of them and they are a part of me but they are there own sentience. They exist in my dream worlds even when I'm not there. They are different colors in my aura. the different colors represent different aspects of my consciousness. It is my own energy that has its own sentience. they are a part of me, they are my energy but they are individuated. Basically if you really want to know that what you are seeing is another entity or not part of yourself you have to learn to see. When you look at a person or an animal or any living creature you get a particular feeling. You can feel their emotions or intent. Or their "vibes". Look into someones eyes you can feel their emotions and thoughts. Practice doing this with people. Looking into their eyes and feeling. feeling what they are feeling. As you develop this skill you can apply it to dreams and know that what you are seeing is not a part of yourself. Sorry its kind of all over the place how I described it but I tried my best

really? i've looked into peoples eyes before and i saw nothing but an eyeball. i didn't feel anything strange, other than maybe worrying that they might think i'm staring.

Originally Posted by Wristblade56

really? i've looked into peoples eyes before and i saw nothing but an eyeball. i didn't feel anything strange, other than maybe worrying that they might think i'm staring.

For me it is the opposite, I can actually feel people's presence. Countless times someone approached me from behind, made absolutely no noise or anything to alert me of their presence, but it feels like the cells in my back are being attracted to them like a magnet.

Originally Posted by saltyseedog

Well basically you have things in your dreams that are a part of you or an aspect of yourself or an aspect of your consciousness and they are your "energy". They represent whats going on inside of you. If there was another entity in your dream that would mean that their energy is inside your dream if that makes sense. For one, their dream body or avatar or whatever the main vehicle they use to be in your dream. Their dream body will be within their energy body which is basically their aura which is all the aspects of their consciousness. Their dream characters are not your energy. You may not have direct control over them. Sometimes foreign energy gets in our dreams and we can trace it back to the source. Foreign energy may take the form of a dream character. My dream guide is actually the dream character of another more powerful entity. He has his own individuated consciousness from the entity. I have dream characters that are always there in my dreams (even after I kill them) they say I am a part of them and they are a part of me but they are there own sentience. They exist in my dream worlds even when I'm not there. They are different colors in my aura. the different colors represent different aspects of my consciousness. It is my own energy that has its own sentience. they are a part of me, they are my energy but they are individuated. Basically if you really want to know that what you are seeing is another entity or not part of yourself you have to learn to see. When you look at a person or an animal or any living creature you get a particular feeling. You can feel their emotions or intent. Or their "vibes". Look into someones eyes you can feel their emotions and thoughts. Practice doing this with people. Looking into their eyes and feeling. feeling what they are feeling. As you develop this skill you can apply it to dreams and know that what you are seeing is not a part of yourself. Sorry its kind of all over the place how I described it but I tried my best

hence auras, as i have mentioned earlier. you have to train yourself to see them. But,i dont have alot of time to re-train my vision. and yes the eyes tell alot about a person. It is the gateway to the soul and thats how you judge other people sub-consciously. Thats why secret service members wear sun \glasses all the time, people are alot more intimidating when their eyes can't be seen, you as a entity cant judge their intentions and thus you become a little uneasy.

look at this link http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=...iw=800&bih=485

guys on the left probably makes you more nervous then the guy on the right, my point proven

I feel the people's presence with my back too and it works even in the dreams. In several dreams i felt with my back the presence of someone i know then i turned to that feeling, the dream changed and i was with that person. When looking into someone's eyes i do not actually stare at them i only stop my eyes onto them and feel them. Its a feeling in the stomach and then i listen to what the feeling says.

A question. Do you have that strange preference to where a person should be around you? I mean left or right. when i walk beside someone i prefer that person to be on my right side. I have a strange energy feeling when they are on the left which i do not like.

thats interesting. I don't really care what side someone is walking with me, never bothered me either way

Originally Posted by kenietz

I feel the people's presence with my back too and it works even in the dreams. In several dreams i felt with my back the presence of someone i know then i turned to that feeling, the dream changed and i was with that person. When looking into someone's eyes i do not actually stare at them i only stop my eyes onto them and feel them. Its a feeling in the stomach and then i listen to what the feeling says.

A question. Do you have that strange preference to where a person should be around you? I mean left or right. when i walk beside someone i prefer that person to be on my right side. I have a strange energy feeling when they are on the left which i do not like.

well, as long as a person isn't behind me, i'm cool. i get nervous when someone goes around behind me, or approaches me from behind, which i believe is just natural. i can't see them, so i can't really stop them from doing something unpleasent should they try. also i can "feel" a person behind me, but they have to be very close. i think i just feel their body heat. i can't seem to tell anything when i look into someone's eyes for some reason.

@suicide king: i looked at the picture and i gotta say at first glance i would've probrobly picked the guy without sunglasses to be my partner. i can't really tell why though, i never feel anything unusual when i look into someone's eyes. also i tried to see my "aura" and all i saw was what looked like white smokey stuff surrounding my body, and once it looked like this dark green thing appeared a bit further away and then dissapeared. i think it was just my eyes playing tricks on me though.

Try not be misleaded looking for auras. Really it is truly is a feeling. It can be seen as colors. The colors are simply witnessing a symbolic representation of the vibration of the energy. The energy is truly a feeling. This is what you must experience it as a feeling first. Just simply practice looking at people and focus on the feeling you get from looking at that person. Eventually you will start to develop the ability to focus on these feelings as almost a second nature. Seeing energy as color is a whole other step that can really help you understand how your energy works. For one there are these different colors. Each of these colors represents an aspect of your consciousness. Most people have all these tentacles that whip around them. then the center of your energy body is your heart. Your heart contains all of these feelings. These tentacles feeling extend out into the outside layers of your aura and determine your mood as long as your only focused on the outer layers of your being. All of these feelings are manifested by your own thoughts. Negative thoughts create dark energy. Dark energy is basically pain. It is emotional pain. We have all this pain in our heart and it is killing us. It is suffering. We want healing from this. we want to be loved so other people can heal us from this pain. We from freedom from this pain. Thats why we feel we need love. We have the ability to heal ourselves though. We can heal ourselves through meditation. We can let this dark energy just flow out of us. When two or more people love each other, normally what I see is tentacles of white light reaching out and reaching into the other persons being. the dark energy comes out in black looking clouds. The relief form this pain feels amazing. It hurts so much when we feel we need another person to heal us and they are not there though. We can seek freedom from this dependency by practicing meditation. We first become aware of these feelings of darkness within us then we let them just flow and they naturally flow out us.

ya I felt I needed to say all that sorry if it seems random and straying off the original topic a bit.

This conversation is interseting and all, I appreciate talking about Auras. I have been slowly getting that 'feeling' you guys are talking about. Now, it seems to wash over my entire chest / head when I try to concentrate on it. There aren't too many people that lock eyes with you long enough for me to feel it the way you do though, I need more practice. Anyways, sweet post, sweet discussion, but I'd like to get back to the spiritual entities thing.

Hey MIIISTERNEUGIT, could we create another thread and go ahead with our plans starting ASAP? We'll all search for a particularly interesting dream character in May and we'll describe our experiences with them and then we'll vote and then we'll search for that character in June while we are on the hunt for another one. Sound good?

I'll create another thread now.