Thread: Spiritual entities on the dream plane

If I recall right, a plane is a two-dimensional space, or field which summarizes location with same properties, and thus a noun. What M3sterneugit means is, that dreams take place in another reality, named the dream plane, and he wants to discuss/ research dream-characters which are not part of our imagination. I think this thread is really misplaced in the research area, it fits much better in the "beyond dreaming"-section.

The "astrailial plane" is in Australia. lol

Anyways, one way to put it is a reality atop ours that forces that are beyond what we know to be "physical" exist.

And now: (lol what is real)

Anyways, dream characters that are outside our mind. One such character may be the Yuya of Hyu. Hyu reports that he asked Yuya how long they knew each other. Yuya replied "Alot longer than he thought." Hyu was thinking "before he was born."

One concept to relate this to is past lives and reincarnation. Or maybe this life is an intermediate life in our life somewhere else. Such as Haven/Riven.

Well, I posted this on the other topic (Hyu's) and I thought I'd post it here.
Recently, I've been having dreams with a little grey female kitten. I don't know her name. She sometimes has wings that are blue/green and a little transparent. She almost always looks the same. She always stays very close to me and I realize that she also isn't at the beginning of the dream. Such as a few nights ago: I had been on a trip with my father and I appeared in a purple tunnel with the kitten in my hands. In that dream, she was my baby. One more recent: I don't know where I was, but there was a bunny and "my" kitten appeared. They were best friends and she talked to the bunny. The bunny did not speak. Even a few months ago I dreamed about her. The dream with "mystical cats". She was laying on the ground with her blue/green wings behind her. When I wake up from dreams with her in them, I feel very attached to her and I don't want to leave her. I always want her to be in my dreams.
Comments?

Could be similar to what Hyu has.

kay. =3 meow

E= mrrrrow!

I speak kittenese as well.

Alright, let's put down what we know. we gotta get organized.

Yuya is an entity that has appeared in Hyu's dreams. she seems intelligent and some of the techniques she has tought Hyu work for others. she seems to have known Hyu before he lived. she claims to have been the Goddess of water at one time. she has openly defied Hyu when he tried to disspell her, and can read his thoughts. her sense of presence is far greater than an ordinary DC.

Feel free to correct and/or add to this. I know next to nothing about Selene, so someone else is gonna have to insert her info.

I am almost certain that the whole Yuya and Selene thing is following the criteria for my Homelanders Theory, found here. I am not finished it yet, but I will work on that right after posting this.

Deleted off topic and moved to BD.

Moving on...

Neugit, I don't understand how you came about your Homelander's theory. Is it like, when you suddenly are reminded of some random old memory? You understand it all at once intuitively but you have yet to go over the memory with your mind. Do you think something external game it to you? You kind of say "That was one of the things not given to me."

I find it an interesting and compelling theory. I suppose, if true, one day we might find out.

Anyways, I did some research on reincarnation which fits with some things. If classical reincarnation is correct, is there new souls made for new growths in population, or do only some have a soul?

off topic randomness: lol you should read my DJ Dreamviews Lucid Dreaming Community & Resource - guitardreamer - Dream Journals its kinda funny what kinda dreams I've had.

and...To be fully honest, I don't believe in reincarnation just to let you guys know, I'm not judging you if you do, though... lol that was random too wasn't it?

(Mrow miaow =3 I speak cattish fluidly!)

MIIISTERNEUGIT-Very interesting theory, it makes a lot of sense. It reminds me a lot of how I think about life; that this is our, as you put it, "secondary" life, and our real life is elsewhere, where love and peace reign.

On topic to this thread, your theory really seems to fit in with Hyu's Yuya, and possibly even Nomad's Selene. You say that all this just occurred to you one day, like a memory?

Originally Posted by KristaNicole07

MIIISTERNEUGIT-Very interesting theory, it makes a lot of sense. It reminds me a lot of how I think about life; that this is our, as you put it, "secondary" life, and our real life is elsewhere, where love and peace reign.

On topic to this thread, your theory really seems to fit in with Hyu's Yuya, and possibly even Nomad's Selene. You say that all this just occurred to you one day, like a memory?

Yes, and Hyu and Yuya's thread is what brought up the idea to post it on the internet, it just took a while for me to get around to it.

My Homelanders Theory came to me like a memory, but as if I repressed it a long time ago. When I say "That was not given to me" I mean that it wasn't in that part of the memory. As I said that we can recall the base of some memories (Only the idea of it, not any people, places, etcetera that are in it), it seems as though this Theory (I hate that word) was a thing that my brain thought might be important info to continue with the current situation. It was wrong though.

Interesting. Although "hypothesis" is a more correct word than "theory." Hypothesis is like an educated guess and a theory has some experiments and evidence behind it. "Beliefs" is what I think you are kind of going for.

Although, sometimes we need some anecdotal evidence before we can start the real science. I'm not sure how far our science can get us in these fields for now.

I think that things like this transcend science, at least science as we know it today. And I think that's ok, something doesn't need to be scientifically proven to be real. At least, that's my opinion.

That's true. Gravity was "real" (lol what is real) before it was proven, or so, by science.

Perhaps someday we will discover or disprove this general concept by science.

I added a very important part to the theory that I forgot to put in before. So if you care, please skim over it.

Interesting theory. I think realities are a lot more fluid than that, without so many hard and fast rules.

I have many parallel existences I am aware of... in one I am dreaming this life from two hundred years in the future, in another I am a monarch of Hell, in another I live on the Green Moon....

Anyway... I encourage everyone who finds this topic interesting to find their dream guide, and ask them the questions.

That's an important difference. That might mean Hyu and Nomad might be at a turning point in their "lives." Primary lives, I guess.

It's also a direction that we can go in (on a not entirely properly scientific) to study this theory. I'm not sure how much proof can be found in this, but it is something to do (at ALL).

Originally Posted by WakingNomad

Interesting theory. I think realities are a lot more fluid than that, without so many hard and fast rules.

I have many parallel existences I am aware of... in one I am dreaming this life from two hundred years in the future, in another I am a monarch of Hell, in another I live on the Green Moon....

Anyway... I encourage everyone who finds this topic interesting to find their dream guide, and ask them the questions.

Wow, you do all that in your dreams? That's cool.

Originally Posted by WakingNomad

Interesting theory. I think realities are a lot more fluid than that, without so many hard and fast rules.

I have many parallel existences I am aware of... in one I am dreaming this life from two hundred years in the future, in another I am a monarch of Hell, in another I live on the Green Moon....

Anyway... I encourage everyone who finds this topic interesting to find their dream guide, and ask them the questions.

They aren't such sharp rules, they are just like gravity.

And I have been trying to have a lucid dream since in found Hyu's thread in January to find my tie. I have had one lucid, but I couldn't think strait to do anything I wanted.

Originally Posted by MIIISTERNEUGIT

They aren't such sharp rules, they are just like gravity.

And I have been trying to have a lucid dream since in found Hyu's thread in January to find my tie. I have had one lucid, but I couldn't think strait to do anything I wanted.

Just be patient with yourself. This has been a lifetime journey for me that will continue on into eternity. There is no destination. Try to find your "tie" in a non-lucid dream through dream incubation.

Originally Posted by Rawracookie

That's an important difference. That might mean Hyu and Nomad might be at a turning point in their "lives." Primary lives, I guess.

It's also a direction that we can go in (on a not entirely properly scientific) to study this theory. I'm not sure how much proof can be found in this, but it is something to do (at ALL).



Wow, you do all that in your dreams? That's cool.

Yes. In Nichiren Buddhism we teach that we exist in 3000 realms in a single moment of life.

Originally Posted by WakingNomad

Just be patient with yourself. This has been a lifetime journey for me that will continue on into eternity. There is no destination. Try to find your "tie" in a non-lucid dream through dream incubation.

Ok, but didn't Hyu say that he only met Yuya in one non-lucid? What about you and Selene?

Originally Posted by MIIISTERNEUGIT

Ok, but didn't Hyu say that he only met Yuya in one non-lucid? What about you and Selene?

I first remember meeting her in meditations, then dreams. Then I had dreams of childhood dreams with her.