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      Tell your Dream Characters You Love Them!



      I have a theory. A theory of how to possibly distinguish yourself from possible invaders in your dream!! Such as inorganic beings.

      Now according to established dream philosophy, all dream characters are essentially tiny manifestations of your mind. Some are just mindless manifestations of ideas and memories. Others actually hold bits and pieces of your subconscious self.

      In this dream philosophy, you have the Shadow Self. This Shadow Self consists of parts of your own consciousness that you reject or deny. It's important to understand that the Shadow Self IS conscious. It IS you. At least, the part of you you hate, dislike, or fear. Self love is so fundamental! The Shadow Self craves to be accepted, acknowledged, loved.

      It turns into a monstrous or frightening being. But it's rebellion against our happy dreams is like a child throwing a tantrum. It just wants our loving attention.

      According to dream philosophy, if you approach the Shadow Self with love and understanding, it will cease to be monstrous. And transform into the most helpful DC ever. A DC who talks to you and tells you things you haven't acknowledged about yourself. In other words, our Shadow Self is actually a good guy who only wants us to reach higher balance by owning all parts of our self. Such as our unacknowledged fears.

      Take this philosophy one step further. Because ALL DCs are said to be manifestations of you, ALL DC'S want to be loved by you. Why not? You are their maker!

      With this idea in mind...you SHOULD be able to run around your dream and tell any and all DCs, even the hideous zombie, that you LOVE and accept them. Under this idea EVERY DC should openly recieve and beam back your love.

      Some DCs will simply fade away because they are illusions. Other DCs that hold your subconscious self will love you back. Creating a wonderful harmonious loop of self love. After all, who else could you be loving when you love your DCs but yourself?



      So where am I getting at?






      What does it mean if a DC REJECTS your love?? What does it mean if a DC is DISGUSTED at your love?? What happens if a DC doesn't believe you, or seems confused, or just reacts poorly in general that you could love them?

      When even the infamous Shadow Self is said to beam back your love quite easily and WILLLINGLY?

      Could this be a way to test whether or not a DC really is a manifestation of yourself?





      I had an extremely realistic false awakening years ago. A young girl was sitting by my legs. She was doing something to them that hurt. But I wasn't scared by her precense. It felt like something prevented me from experiencing emotions actually. So I just sat there watching this girl do painful things to my leg.

      Finally I ask "Who are you?"

      And she's caught off guard, having realized I've been watching her this whole time "I'm...your gaurdian angel. I'm trying to heal your legs."

      Oh, that's lovely! I was reading about gaurdian angels at this time, and according to some random website if you love your gaurdian angel, they beam back your love a 1000 fold!

      I can't think straight. I don't even question her. Even though nothing about this scene was angelic. Wanting to see the face of my gaurdian angel, I try to get a closer look at her face. But she hides her face behind her hair, and keeps her eyes below my eye level. She's almost terrified of my curious gaze.

      As I disturbed her work, my legs finally stopped hurting. Still brain-foggy, I don't question this and simply say "thanking you for healing me". Her response was some indistinguishable muttering.

      She lays down next to me, as if she always sleeps here. Oddly, it's a space on my bed I never use, as if an invisible being has always been sleeping there. But she turns her face away from me again. I don't really think about her body language, I don't really think about anything.

      Instead I simply tell her "I love you!!!". Believing naively so much that she is my gaurdian angel, that she will simply explode into a firey ball of love and love me back. Instead....she sorta...jerks. Like I startled her. And again, still avoiding my eyes she mutters "I uh.....I uh........I uh love you too." But it wasn't convincing. It didn't feel real.

      Finally her poor and unexpected response gets something ticking. And my logical brain begins to wake up. This is no angel. I wake up from the experience. Everything is exactly the same except the girl is gone. The moment I woke up it was like I could finally feel my emotions again. The only thing I felt was fear and confussion. Looking back at the experience, she was disturbing, frightening, unsettling. Why couldn't I feel any of this in the dream?

      Years later I would experiment telling the most random DCs that I love them. Each and every one to this day has recieved my love and beamed back to me what I gave to them. Not a single one hesitated, or reacted so poorly. Making this false awakening stand out like a sore thumb. The other weird thing about this false awakening was the transition between the dreaming and the waking. I blinked. And when I looked again, the girl was gone. Just like that, a blink.




      What do you think? Do you think this is a possible way to test if something is an inorganic being?

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      Hmm...not sure about the inorganic being bit, but I'm all for spreading the DC love. (I'm still going to smite the insolent blighters once in a while, though...) Sounds like a good way to relieve stress/feel happier, at the very least. I'm game.

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      Good idea juoara. Great post.

      I like what you wrote about the Shadow Self. I met my Shadow Self, and then we merged later. It was pretty awesome.
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      i've tried something similar to the first half of your post...

      i very much appreciated the part about 'lightening up our shadow self'
      but i hope non-DCs love me, too.
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      I've read about this in the "Dark Side of the Light Chasers." Good Idea.

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      thanks for this info, even though I'm not lucid enough to ask something to a DC just knowing it will help.
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      Excellent EXCELLENT post juora. I can't wait to try this!
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      Quote Originally Posted by Sam's Dream Journal
      I have him pinned to the wall with a knife to his throat before he can blink. I can feel the savage grin splitting my face as I call to one of the other women...I tell the man not to move; I won't hesitate to cut him open.
      It occurs to me that I might have a ways to go with the DC love.

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      i think it also follows that when DCs tell you they love you, that is part of yourself giving you positive feedback.
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      This is and Awesome post!! lots to learn from it... really help me out! thanks!
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      I wonder what would happen If i made love to my shadow self... just a thought.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Samael View Post
      It occurs to me that I might have a ways to go with the DC love.
      Hey, it's just tough love man....

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      Im glad you guys like the post, if you have any DC loving experiences feel free to share them....unless...it really is that personal

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      Hmmm... well, I definitely have some DC lovin' experiences, but I don't think it's quite what you had in mind....

      If I remember next time Im lucid I'll give it a try. So many things I want to try... I need to make a list.

      Oh cool, you started an online DJ!! I like the dream about the future.
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      Lol..Yes yes. I started an online one. I have two now! And I'm so picky which dreams to share. I'm so used to my journal being all for me.

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      I'm the same way. At first I posted them all here, but after a while I didn't like the idea of everybody and their brother reading my innermost thoughts, and maybe understanding them better than I did!

      So now I just use the paper journal and I'll transfer certain dreams over.

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      I love this idea!! I've been getting chased by DC's a lot lately, so it would be awesome to see their reactions - if/when I get lucid - to turn around and shout "I LOVE YOU!!" at them with arms wide open

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      Quote Originally Posted by Darkmatters View Post
      Aw dammit Eternalstar... now you got Creed stuck in me head!!!

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      Hmm...this is an interesting thought!

      I kinda like this idea if a DC is being mean to me or something...If I love them, how can they continue? Well...I have done other things, but I'm ALL for non violence! And, this is as non violent as it gets!

      OK, BUT I can't see myself just telling random DC's I love them. Just because...well...not the scary ones or anything...just . IDK.

      Also, that would be REALLY creepy- to tell random DC's you love them, if they look like people you know IRL- I have those DC's all of the time. Most of them being just random people I don't talk to .

      EDIT: Oh, and what about the whole "whatever you think will happen in your dreams", thing? Well, not necessarily all of the time, but still. Like, what if you tell a DC you love them and they say no, but probably because you THOUGHT that was what they were going to say?
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      I just consider myself to be utilizing evil fantasies to keep myself civilized and sane. I'm pretty non-violent in real life as well. I kind of agree with LDS in one respect, though: if you have doubts about the nightmarish character you're trying to give a hug to, it might still try to kill you. Much easier to skip all that and explode its brains all over the wall.

      And those of the DC version of that prick-ass Kinko's employee who took three hours to copy your resume.

      Heh, no I just kid. All Kinko's employees I've come across been really nice to me and I mean them no harm.

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      Quote Originally Posted by lucidreamsavy View Post
      Hmm...this is an interesting thought!

      I kinda like this idea if a DC is being mean to me or something...If I love them, how can they continue? Well...I have done other things, but I'm ALL for non violence! And, this is as non violent as it gets!

      OK, BUT I can't see myself just telling random DC's I love them. Just because...well...not the scary ones or anything...just . IDK.

      Also, that would be REALLY creepy- to tell random DC's you love them, if they look like people you know IRL- I have those DC's all of the time. Most of them being just random people I don't talk to .

      EDIT: Oh, and what about the whole "whatever you think will happen in your dreams", thing? Well, not necessarily all of the time, but still. Like, what if you tell a DC you love them and they say no, but probably because you THOUGHT that was what they were going to say?

      We can say there are different levels of lucidity. The most basic level of lucidity is knowing that you are dreaming. But you don't consciously understand that this is YOUR dream. Which is why a lot of people at this level struggle to control the dream, they aren't 'owning' it yet.

      On a 'higher level' of lucidity you KNOW this is YOUR dream. And you KNOW all of these DCs are a manifestation of your SELF. Like tiny little reflections. Think of it this way. Lets say the DC is someone you LOATHE in RL. And you see this DC in the dream, and even though you're lucid you still say "I HATE YOU!". Well, this means you aren't that lucid. Because you aren't understanding that this isn't actually the person you loathe in RL. It's not! It's a reflection of your own self/mind/subconscious.

      This little love circle of mine requires two things: You love yourself! I hope you do . Two, you understand that DCs are a reflection of your self/mind/subconsciousness. If you do these two things, you shouldn't have any doubt. Because if you love the DC, you do this with understanding that they WILL LOVE YOU BACK because THEY ARE YOU (or at least a tiny piece of you). It's not two people loving each other, there is only ONE with a mirror.

      If you are lucid and are still having trouble loving a DC because they are terrifying or ugly or you really do loathe them, you can work around this. If it's a monster you can see this monster as harmless. If it's a person you don't like in RL you can first verbally acknowledge that they are not this person, so you can detach yourself from any negative emotions you have of this person.

      You don't have to love the DC in your dreams, lol. In the end, they are only illusions of your true self. I think this is more important if you're having nightmares, or if you keep running into DCs that make you angry and ruin your dreaming experience.


      Much easier to skip all that and explode its brains all over the wall.
      The problem is if you do meet your Shadow Self, you won't be able to do this! The Shadow Self isn't a normal DC. The Shadow Self is truly conscious, the parts of your own consciousness you fear or dislike. In comparison to other DCs, you can't exert the same kind of dream control over them.

      I mean, I'm sure you could blow up his brains all across the wall. But when you dust your hands and turn around, your Shadow Self will be standing right there more pissed than ever. The Shadow Self is angry at you because you don't accept it. The more violent are you towards it in the dream, the angrier it is, the more of a dream nuisance it is!

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      Quote Originally Posted by juroara View Post
      The problem is if you do meet your Shadow Self, you won't be able to do this! The Shadow Self isn't a normal DC. The Shadow Self is truly conscious, the parts of your own consciousness you fear or dislike. In comparison to other DCs, you can't exert the same kind of dream control over them.

      I mean, I'm sure you could blow up his brains all across the wall. But when you dust your hands and turn around, your Shadow Self will be standing right there more pissed than ever. The Shadow Self is angry at you because you don't accept it. The more violent are you towards it in the dream, the angrier it is, the more of a dream nuisance it is!
      Well, that explains a lot. I've got a recurring DC who brings nightmares wherever he goes and I can't do a thing to hurt him, even when I have a weapon in my hands and he's unarmed. Sound like?

      I've never met him lucid, mind.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Samael View Post
      Much easier to skip all that and explode its brains all
      Quote Originally Posted by Juroara
      The problem is if you do meet your Shadow Self, you won't be able to do this! The Shadow Self isn't a normal DC. The Shadow Self is truly conscious, the parts of your own consciousness you fear or dislike. In comparison to other DCs, you can't exert the same kind of dream control over them.

      I mean, I'm sure you could blow up his brains all across the wall. But when you dust your hands and turn around, your Shadow Self will be standing right there more pissed than ever. The Shadow Self is angry at you because you don't accept it. The more violent are you towards it in the dream, the angrier it is, the more of a dream nuisance it is!
      Very interesting! It is a good opportunity to cultivate compassion and love, which the world needs more of.
      Also, whenever you splatter a DCs brains against the wall, you are doing that to a part of yourself. Which is OK if you then can find some way to re-own that vital energy you just destroyed. This is depth dreamwork, telling your DCs you love them, integrating aspects of yourself back into conscious love.
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      Don't piss off your shadow! Bring your shadow into the light by loving him/her!
      Such good insights here in this thread.
      Tell your DCs that you love them!

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      For me I accept my shadow as me. I am my demons. I am a demon, angel, animal, ghost, god, devil ,deva and the whole nine yards.

      I personally have told my dream character and dream sign (one & the same), my step brother that I love him. I have told myself that I love me. I cried.....

      I have also woken up with a friend of mine in my bed. She tried to seduce me. I thought I was going crazy as I thought when she came over I had only been dreaming lucidly. In the dream she took her bottoms off and crawled into bed. I thought no prob she will be gone when I wake up. I woke up and she was still there. I tested it by touching her by pretending to accidently roll into spooning with her. I could feel her and I could feel her breathing. She moved and I took my arm off her. I was sure that I was still dreaming and went back to sleep only to feel her shuffling around in the bed next to me. I said ok this time I will roll over and accidentally put my hand on her nose. She was there! So I was like well I will try and have sex with her. I became unsure I decided well if I am mistaken I could regret my sexual advances. In the end I changed my mind and got up. When I did I saw a demon floating sitting up in a side lying position that I perceived as real and separate as you & I when I believed to be awake. Then it disappeared in front of me. It looked like all the veins had turned black and the skin had turned pale and cracked.

      Even if you love your shadow it will remain. YOU ARE YOUR SHADOW. You can't love someone and ask them to be different to please you. I say make peace with those desires that you find repelling. Love others as ugly & violent as you think they are. They are doing the best they know how. If they kill you then die.

      I say create a space for your shadow in your life. Like a dog. Your dog will never be a child. So what do we do? Create a space so that we can listen & learn from the bright darkness that each of us are.

      I say love because you want to be loving and that alone is reason enough.
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