Lucid Dreams are illusions caused by jinns.

**Chimpertainment** · 06-28-2012 12:55 AM

Originally Posted by Eoghang

Muslims would call them jinns. Christians would call the evil ones demons. Tribes, ancient indians would call them ancestor spirits Mayans would call them sky gods Buddhists would call them spirits. Disney would call them genie and other folk lore tales would call them genie as well. You know for people who lucid dream which 95% of the population would call crazy you are very close minded I mean alot of you and a few of you just insulting like tommo saying 1.5 billion people follow a mad man. I didn't come in here being like lucid dreaming is caused by monsters don't fricken do it or you will go to hell pl0x noobs. I simplied gave one of MANY reasons why we have lucid dreams. FYI tommo mohammed lucid dreamed and astral projected in the Qu'ran besides he didn't write it. It came from the higher power. "spirturial" is thrown around were spirtiural beings in most ways. Dogs can sense energy of other animals so can all animals. Everything is spiritual in that regard. Jinns are just on a different frequency that our eyes can't see. Well I am not gonna respond anymore tommo comment was just mean and childish mocking 1.5 billion people who believe in this know your place you have no right to do that it's offensive but I forgive you maturity obviously is not one of your strengths. Anyway thanks for the comments specially the guys who tried to talk about it with me. Peace, love and tolerence for all.

Tell me Eoghang, what can we do to defend ourselves from Jinns? If they can hurt us because we all live in a unified field then there must be a way to either defend ourselves or fight back.
Also, from the other representations of Jinn(demons) you mentioned, is almost seems like this could be your shadow manifesting...

Wise as Serpents, Gentle as Doves

**Sageous** · 06-28-2012 03:42 AM

Hmm ... I've been LD'ing for well over thirty years, with many thousands of lucid adventures and apparently jinn incursions behind me. Shouldn't I by now be a Jinn-zombie, or a jinn-priest? Wait a minute ... Maybe I am!

Seriously, Eoghang, shouldn't someone have noticed these Jinn by now? Shouldn't, for that matter, experienced LD'ers be dropping like flies? Or is it ... is it ... is it that nobody is LD'ing at all, and these things we're experiencing are simply jinn-soaked illusions?

**Mzzkc** · 06-28-2012 06:38 AM

Guy, don't you see? The Djinn aren't dangerous. Nay, by the OPs own volition, rational thought and questioning strange things will lead us to despair.

I can't help agreeing; a world where everyone thought critically about these concepts would be...awful.

An end to pointless wars based solely on faith; extraordinary scientific advances in technology, medicine, and engineering; worldwide understanding and unity of thought.

The job market simply wouldn't be able to handle it! And with the inevitable end of poverty, I hate the idea of all those unemployed freeloaders living in comfortable conditions!

Death to rational thought! Death to lucid dreaming!

**MarineRecon** · 06-28-2012 06:21 PM

Originally Posted by Eoghang

Not being specific but do your own research I mean you can go on and believe that it's all made in your head but eventually you will start thinking your special and want to sleep all the time. In the end you will regret your lucid dreaming. You do not create lucid dreams you trade your dignity and self power for some false sense of god like powers in a fake world which is meaningless. I was like you I started lucid dreaming in 06 had a few before didn't take much notice. Let's just say the HI images you see in wild are nothing compared to the possession of yourself by jinns in your sleep and waking life. But belive what you want real life has far more rewarding things to do then lucid dreaming. Peace and love.

So basically this is a warning?

**dutchraptor** · 06-28-2012 06:24 PM

Once again, one irishman manages to make an entire nation seem like idiots.

**Mzzkc** · 06-28-2012 06:26 PM

Yes.

Because that's how logic works.

**littlezoe** · 06-28-2012 08:02 PM

The guy didn't post since a while.... probably kidnapped by the jinns...

**Ksero** · 06-28-2012 10:09 PM

He says they are made of gas like the sun, and also that they have no molecules so they can move faster than the speed of light, that's a direct contradiction right there. Just because something has no mass doesn't mean it can go faster than the speed of light anyway, photons (particles of light) have 0 mass, and are the fastest particles out there. for something to go faster than the speed of light it would be traveling backwards in time, that doesn't work for a multitude of reasons.

You say Unified Field Theory is "proof" of jinn, first off, there is no unified field theory yet, it's still being researched, second of all it only states that all "fundamental forces and elementary particles to be written in terms of a single field." Learn your physics before preaching it as the reason that jinn exist.

**Despierto** · 06-30-2012 01:11 PM

Originally Posted by littlezoe

The guy didn't post since a while.... probably kidnapped by the jinns...

I don't really understand why you hang around the beyond dreaming section when your posts is always in a critisizing, sarcastic direction to everything that isn't "scientific" or what the f ever you believe in.
You may say that you respect opinions but your every post is in someway mocking both directly and indirectly.

If you have nothing interesting to say, don't post at all.

About the topic, this could be a legit theory to muslims but to others that aren't familiar with the nature of jinns, it might sound "ridicolous".

**dutchraptor** · 06-30-2012 05:45 PM

Originally Posted by daban

I don't really understand why you hang around the beyond dreaming section when your posts is always in a critisizing, sarcastic direction to everything that isn't "scientific" or what the f ever you believe in.
You may say that you respect opinions but your every post is in someway mocking both directly and indirectly.

If you have nothing interesting to say, don't post at all.

About the topic, this could be a legit theory to muslims but to others that aren't familiar with the nature of jinns, it might sound "ridicolous".

I rarely see her take part in real big discussions, calm down.

**Despierto** · 06-30-2012 07:17 PM

Originally Posted by dutchraptor

I rarely see her take part in real big discussions, calm down.

Oh I'm very calm

Take another look around

**littlezoe** · 06-30-2012 07:21 PM

Originally Posted by daban

Oh I'm very calm

Take another look around

You don't seem calm at all ^^

**smouse** · 06-30-2012 08:25 PM

this thread is full of lols

**Despierto** · 06-30-2012 08:34 PM

Originally Posted by littlezoe

You don't seem calm at all ^^

I guess it's hard to tell and I can't really convince you so.. Lets not go any further offtopic with meaningless comments xD

**littlezoe** · 06-30-2012 08:41 PM

Originally Posted by daban

I guess it's hard to tell and I can't really convince you so.. Lets not go any further offtopic with meaningless comments xD

The thread started is kidnapped, he probably won't return... and since i doubt anyone else believes this jinn stuff, i think going off topic can only help this thread

**Despierto** · 06-30-2012 08:51 PM

Originally Posted by littlezoe

The thread started is kidnapped, he probably won't return... and since i doubt anyone else believes this jinn stuff, i think going off topic can only help this thread

Anyone else here* if you may.
Because I think almost every muslim on the planet believes in jinns.

Also, you shouldn't joke about people being kidnapped

I get the fun part, but it's disrespectful unless your friends with the person and you're joking about being kidnapped/raped/murdered and stuff like that on daily basis

oh and "Arrrrr"

**dutchraptor** · 06-30-2012 08:55 PM

Originally Posted by daban

Anyone else here* if you may.
Because I think almost every muslim on the planet believes in jinns.

The question is does every muslim believe in the scientific explanation this guy tried to explain to us?.

**littlezoe** · 06-30-2012 08:57 PM

Originally Posted by daban

Anyone else here* if you may.
Because I think almost every muslim on the planet believes in jinns.

Also, you shouldn't joke about people being kidnapped

I get the fun part, but it's disrespectful unless your friends with the person and you're joking about being kidnapped/raped/murdered and stuff like that on daily basis

oh and "Arrrrr"

You take things a little too seriously... I never joked about rape or murder, yet you bring that here too... Seriously?

I'm not sure what's the reason, but you radiate such a negativity...

**Despierto** · 06-30-2012 09:05 PM

Originally Posted by littlezoe

You take things a little too seriously... I never joked about rape or murder, yet you bring that here too... Seriously?

I'm not sure what's the reason, but you radiate such a negativity...

Well sweety, what do you think happens when someone gets kidnapped? And yea, pretty seriously

Also, I've already told you my reason for speaking to you in my first post. Normally I wouldn't care, but seeing you mocking every thread that has anything that is out of the ordinary or supernatural, I thought I'd enlighten you of yourself

Either you take what I say and think about it, or you're wasting time writing to me

**Despierto** · 06-30-2012 09:08 PM

Originally Posted by dutchraptor

The question is does every muslim believe in the scientific explanation this guy tried to explain to us?.

I'm not sure which one you mean, I think I missed the scientific one and I'm too tired to read through it all again heh.
Sry for doublepost

**littlezoe** · 06-30-2012 09:16 PM

Originally Posted by daban

Well sweety, what do you think happens when someone gets kidnapped? And yea, pretty seriously

Also, I've already told you my reason for speaking to you in my first post. Normally I wouldn't care, but seeing you mocking every thread that has anything that is out of the ordinary or supernatural, I thought I'd enlighten you of yourself

Either you take what I say and think about it, or you're wasting time writing to me

You are trying too hard now little guy

The kidnapping joke shouldn't be taken literally, but i see you can't differentiate...

As for your last sentence, you should keep yourself to that too

**Despierto** · 06-30-2012 09:29 PM

Originally Posted by littlezoe

You are trying too hard now little guy

The kidnapping joke shouldn't be taken literally, but i see you can't differentiate...

As for your last sentence, you should keep yourself to that too

I don't know what you mean by trying

Oh, no I didn't take it literally, I'm well aware of the low probability of him actually being kidnapped XD.
I just pointed out that you don't usually joke about tragic stuff like that if you're not friends with the person who you're joking about. And even more disrespectful when he doesn't seem to be here to read it.

And about that last sentence, you have told me nothing to think about for myself nor am I finding this as wasting my time as I'm trying to make a point to you

**Ekyu** · 06-30-2012 09:31 PM

**Sageous** · 06-30-2012 09:53 PM

Originally Posted by dutchraptor

The question is does every muslim believe in the scientific explanation this guy tried to explain to us?.

The answer to that, I think, is probably a resounding "No."

And does every Muslim on the planet really believe in Jinns as described in this thread? Seems like a stretch to me...

**Despierto** · 06-30-2012 10:00 PM

Originally Posted by Sageous

The answer to that, I think, is probably a resounding "No."

And does every Muslim on the planet really believe in Jinns as described in this thread? Seems like a stretch to me...

Probably not all

I said I think so and that is because I'm pretty sure all muslims I know and met believes in them. Could also be cultural. But since they're mentioned a lot in the qur'an it's not wrong to think a lot of muslims believe in them.