Thread: Password Shared Dreaming Experiment (Host: Linkzelda)

Good luck on this. If I were able to have consistent dreams I would try this. I also believe dreams are more than just what the brain conjures up. Once again, good luck

Thank you so much! You will get to the state where you have consistent dream recall, it's just a matter of discipline when writing as many things down on your dream journal, and managing waking life at the same time, and getting proper sleep too.

As for participants.

1. debrajane
2. ???????
3. ??????????

It's close to 11 PM, and I'll get ready to sleep around 11:30 PM (10:55 PM right now).

I already made the password, and until I get more information from debrajane (if she is interested still), the best thing I can do now is wait....or hit two birds with one stone with a few goals in mind.

1. Find my dream guide (yes I believe in them) or my spirit guide (yes I believe in those too).

2. Use those guides when I do find more information on future participants' sleeping times and timezone to help guide me into their dreams and/or give them the opportunity to find me in my dreams. (Again, I'm indulging in the idealism as part of my role of a shared dreaming believer).

Anyway, I better go ahead and get some sleep. And thank you again Daredevilpwn!

EDIT: Also, because I feel this might pop up, if anyone still sees me online during times I would sleep, it's because I keep myself logged in on dream views sometimes (idling). Just saying...

I will try it out. Sounds like fun.

1. debrajane (possibly)
2. sivason
3. ????

Cool, I wish you luck!

count me in man...Now that i see the premise in action, i like what i see. I have consistent recall with about 1 LD/week right now. That should increase in the coming weeks as I have the next two weeks off completely. yay
I am PST and sleep usually 12am-10am on off-days which the next two weeks will be...

If you dont mind LinkZelda, Id like to give you some content besides dream journals help communication...I have a couple websites that have pictures that I have taken on them. To me, they seem like my own thoughts in picture form...and maybe it would help connection..as well as bolster my ego

7mmRedux's deviantART Gallery

Flickr: Taciturn D's Photostream

Expect the best, Assume the worst.

1. debrajane (possibly)
2. sivason
3. Chimpertainment


Alright! We're set for the month!

Funny thing...Windows update completely messed up how my alarm would activate, but I still managed to wake up 20 minutes early before the alarm IF there wasn't an update to mess it up! Going to go ahead and recall my dreams during this WBTB, and then try to WILD and hope for the best.

And thank you for your participation!

OK, this sounds more two-way than the previous experiment. The previous one was a little more passive on my end. ("Password -- come and get it".) I'd be interested to see *your* dream posts, but I don't know whether I should see them before or after the experiment?

On second thought, I posted my dream journal during the previous experiment, and that didn't seem to affect anything.

Yeah, the "come and get it" mentality may have contributed to the possibility of some kind of communication, or exceptional and rare ability for the mind to associate based on given data and find possible solutions, but with me being allowed to attempt and find these 3 people, hopefully, that will promote a better activity. (IMO)

As for my dream posts, I don't think you'll have to worry when you see them, since I am going to focus my time and effort on these 3 people. The only way it would be a concern is if someone decided to be a shapeshifter (lol nahhhhh) and tried to just mess this up, but I doubt that's going to happen, and I doubt I would fall for it without doing some tests myself.

But I do hope this is an acceptable addition to the experiment, Mindraker.

Anyway, I better finish typing the rest of my dreams, I'm good at retaining the dreams I pick up immediately, and can even distract myself for a while, but I should really shorten the time I stay up for this WBTB.

Take care, and can't wait for your response!

Originally Posted by Linkzelda

Take care, and can't wait for your response!

Ah, yes, count me in. *blush* I forgot to type that.

I think debrajane showed some interest before in the previous thread, but I still have to see her verify that here. But if she should choose not to participate, I'll will have you on the queue (the very short queue that is)

It's just that I have to keep this down to 1-3 people, since I observed some posts in the shared dreaming debate thread related to small groups of people. I would be more than happy to add you in, but I saw debrajane show some interest, and if she does want to participate, I'm afraid I can't include you Mindraker in my search.

However, you can still serve as a control variable where you seek to find the password and/or me, but I won't attempt to find you at all.

It's 7:02 am here and I just woke with the image of a man taking a large pet crocodile (8ft long and very musclly) for a walk through a jungle, on a lead, like a dog. I was behind them so no fear of huge crocodile for me. Got to put it in dream journal and pasword thread later.

Now it's 9pm (same day) Wed 15-Aug-12. I joined Linkzelda's password experiment.

I am lazy but I am honest. I find incubation and intending too much trouble. So, I am not going to think about finding Linkzelda's passeord or finding winning numbers for Waking Nomad or anything. I will just listen to my breathing and heartbeat as I drop-off. I won't even hope to remember a dream. But if I do I will see if I can find any numbers for Waking Nomad or a password for Linkzelda.

They say that as we go through our sleep cycles we enter and leave emptyness (total death) several times. But we do it without awarness so we miss the opportunity to permanently drop connection to what we are not.

I want to die. I have wanted is since I was an infant. As an infant I offten hoped I would never wake up.

The dream below is from sivison's old thread called:

http://www.dreamviews.com/f19/experi...5/#post1860668

This dream reveals my deepest wish (to die).

Originally Posted by debrajane

(...)

I slept and drempt well last night.

It is 8:33 am Tuesday 14-Feb-2012 here now.

Had nice smooth dreams but the one I liked best was:

I saw a notice inviting folk to a meet of some sort. I went to the place willing to wait, even sleep in the wet, (with rain or dew) grass til other folk turned up.

When they did they were humans but unusual looking.

Like beautiful hand-carved living wooden statues. Every move was extremely beautiful and perfectly poised. But totally natural, as in, they had been highly routinized and highly self-disciplined monks and nuns for a single life of thousands of years with thousands of happy years of highly routinized and highly self-disciplined life yet to live.

Their prayers and meditations were non verbal, it was all gentle movement and body language and facial expression.

Together we went places.

Gently teleporting, smoothly, imperceptiblty. We were just there quickly and quietly.

At the last place, before I woke, I stood beside this cool silent monk in a forrest on the side of hills. I was aware of standing beside him as I desired to also be a yellow orb.*

Then I was a yellow orb of gentle energy.

I wanted to (metaphorically) die.

So, as an orb, I rose a mile or two, slowely, into the air, with reverent gratitude.

Then Gently and greatfully descended untill I touched the juicy topsoil of this sacred place and merged, formlessly.

Then I wanted to keep descending to the dark. molten and hard core of this divine planet but the quiet monk silently seemed to encourage me to consider remaining in the organic and alive, juicy, life-giving topsoil.

Then I gently woke up.

*

That's fine; you're the one setting the rules.

Some quick questions:

Is this a combined or modified word like "dogs and cats", or "pink elephant", or a single word like "dog", "elephant", or "cat". (Or are you specifically not wanting to tell us, for whatever reason).

Another concern from the previous thread: We're not all on the same time zone. How are you going to handle this (or explain this...)? (Actually, if you go to bed at 11 PM CST, you'd be going to bed when I go to bed in EST.)

Originally Posted by debrajane

Now it's 9pm (same day) Wed 15-Aug-12. I joined Linkzelda's password experiment.

Thank you! Glad to have you take part in this

Originally Posted by Mindraker

That's fine; you're the one setting the rules.

Alright, I'm glad that this is okay.

Is this a combined or modified word like "dogs and cats", or "pink elephant", or a single word like "dog", "elephant", or "cat". (Or are you specifically not wanting to tell us, for whatever reason).

It will be a combined and/or modified word, just like how your password ended up being "blurry photograph"

Another concern from the previous thread: We're not all on the same time zone. How are you going to handle this (or explain this...)? (Actually, if you go to bed at 11 PM CST, you'd be going to bed when I go to bed in EST.)

Yes, that's one of the hugest concerns when it comes to (presumptively) trying to attempt a shared dream with someone else.

After the participants that I'm finding have decided they don't mind taking part in this, I would ask them to tell their timezones.

And this is where it gets even more complicated (but when everyone is honest and can give their times, it gets easier).

Here's how it can be settled

1. They would give their timezone.

2.They would give times based on that timezone of when they normally sleep(and I would convert that myself to conform to my own). If they aren't comfortable posting when they sleep, they can always PM me.

3. Based on the 3 participants, since there's 7 days in a week, I would put in 2 days that would be specialized for finding them. It doesn't have to be concurrent, it can be spread out.

Examples:

A. If sivason's timezone is 1 hour before me, and he sleeps at 9PM, I would sleep around 10PM-11PM for my timezone.

But let's say Sivason does not usually sleep at that time during Mondays and Thursdays, and he sleeps a little bit later. Then he could PM or post here of what days he has a little bit more free time. And I would adjust to his sleeping pattern.

B. Since debrajane and me would have timezone issues (maybe), she would give me times she knows she can devote to sleeping, and I would take a nap as an attempt, or vice versa.

The same goes for Chimpertainment, but I think he's in the USA region like sivason is in. (I think)


I know it may not be perfect, but I did this for 2-3 people I used to do attempts with privately.

Since it would be impossible for everyone to sleep to my timezone, I would have to then devote some day (1-2 each) to them and find a way to work around it.

And should one of them not be able to find ways to synch with (I guess I could switch you to be the one I find, and set debrajane as the control variable, since you're only one hour ahead of me)........but I guess we'll have to wait and see.

And if anyone has suggestions on how to make the timezone plan I have better, please feel free to do so.

I often go ti bed about midnight here.

It is 12:22am Thur 16 Aug so if you have a nap in 8 to 10 hours frim niw you will catch me in my longest REM periods.

Night-night.

OK, it seems like we're paying a lot more attention to synchronizing time this go-round, than we did before.

Adult Anime Billboard Animation, Eating Plastic Plates, Seroquel and Competition....(SDE DAY 01) - Dream Journals - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views


Password given?: No, but had the intention of giving it out to participants during WBTB
Lucid: Yes
Time Spent asleep: ~ 8 hours (5 hours before WBTB attempt, ~3 hours until I woke up again with no WBTB attempt)
Significant dream signs: : billboard , father , mother , plastic plates , robert ri'chard

I did a MILD during my WBTB that I would have the password given out to the participants. Of course, it's just the first day before I get into synching with others. Still have to get two of the participants timezones and times they know for sure they can sleep, and I will change how I sleep to fit theirs. Or it could be the other way around.

I managed to become lucid through a DILD, but it was fairly short. The dream was on a more personal level, but it's out there.





It seems if I can take a nap around 5PM-6PM (maybe a little it earlier to get into short deep sleep) my time, I could possibly synch with debrajane, but of course, I have to make sure I get the other two participant's information with time before I take any attempt.

I don't have to put any dream signs out here, since you can see it through my dream journal entry.

EDIT:

I will be reading as many posts as I can in the IOSDP section on anything related with synchronization with shared dreaming attempts.

DOUBLE EDIT:

Going to take a nap (well not really a nap, but since debrajane is most likely going through her longer REM periods in a few hours, I might as well get myself into an attempt in finding her).

Looks like sivason, linkzelda, and I are within a 2 hour timezone block. Assuming you are central time LinkZelda? Sivason's location is idaho which could be pacific or mountain...and I am pacific. If we sleep at night, we should all have some solid sleep crossover. Australia is almost exactly on the opposite of the time zone spectrum....could be an interesting way to observe how different sleep patterns effect the experiment?

But yeah...I had an interesting dream....I have a guess....my guess is: WaterShed...

Had a dream

NL- At a park with a large number of people. We are playing games and cooking some bar-b-Que. Some of my friends and family are there too. There is a huge pavilion with tables underneath where most of the people are lounging out of the hot sun. There is a shed just to the side of the pavilion and I have the idea to climb onto its roof. I grab a silver party balloon in a shape I cant recall and climb onto the shed. My roommate tells me a joke about me being above everyone. A couple other people make comments as the dream fades...

The balloon made a connection in my mind when I awoke to the sword Link uses. It was silver in the general shape of a sword...although the exact shape I do not recall. I was standing on a shed for water...relates to biology too...hmmm.

Password: "Florida", "#14"
Lucid: No
Time spent asleep: 13 minutes, 15 AUG 2012 2:11 PM EST
Significant Dreamsigns: Airport, Airport security

Password: *none*
Lucid: No
Time Spent Asleep: 40 minutes, 15 AUG 2012 2:26 PM EST
Significant Dreamsigns: Camping trip, the phrase: "I guess we're too old for it."

Originally Posted by Chimpertainment

Looks like sivason, linkzelda, and I are within a 2 hour timezone block. Assuming you are central time LinkZelda? Sivason's location is idaho which could be pacific or mountain...and I am pacific. If we sleep at night, we should all have some solid sleep crossover. Australia is almost exactly on the opposite of the time zone spectrum....could be an interesting way to observe how different sleep patterns effect the experiment?

But yeah...I had an interesting dream....I have a guess....my guess is: WaterShed...

Had a dream


The balloon made a connection in my mind when I awoke to the sword Link uses. It was silver in the general shape of a sword...although the exact shape I do not recall. I was standing on a shed for water...relates to biology too...hmmm.

I would like if you would use this code whenever you do an attempt. You can also include bits of the dreams you deem as important, but for consistency, the code below will be needed. And thanks, I'm glad that you, me, and possibly sivason will have a consistent sleeping pattern.

PHP Code:

[B]Password:[/B]
[B]Lucid:[/B]
[B]Time spent asleep:[/B]
[B]Significant Dreamsigns[/B] 


I've slept for around 2 hours or so, and I'm going to sleep for 2 more hours in hopes to synch in with debrajane.

Take care!

And if you want to, don't be shy to post any dream journal links as well!

EDIT: I better not take another 2 hours to nap, since I probably won't sleep right later on if I do.

Here's my attempt, managed to recall one dream.

Spike Spiegel & Fight for your Country!!! (SDE Day 01 Part 2) - Dream Journals - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views

Password given?: No
Lucid: No
Time Spent asleep: ~2 hours (3:30 PM- 5:40 PM)
Significant dream signs: Spike Spiegel, Jet Black, Green Leaf


I'll also be editing the first post I made with a dream journal link with this format included as well.

False awakening

Woke and there was a slim bird flying in my bedroom. My bedroom was too big but I took that for granted.

I wanted to catch the lovely little bird to release it. The beautiful little bird began flying slowly so I could reach out and take it from the air.

It didn't struggle. It felt lovely to gently hold. I brought it to my body so it would feel safer.

I opened my bedtoom door, walked down the boarding house hallway to the courtyard. I held you up (Linkzelda) and you flew in an lovely slowmotion-way onto the clothesline.

You kind of went smaller. I have never seen that type of bird before.

I was awake and thinking about that lovely false awakenkng dream when I realised it was you.

It is now 11:11 am here now. (Thursday 16-August-2012).

I am in mountain time zone, so one hour earlier than Link. My schedule changes day to day, but there is sure to be some cross over. In my WBTB I actually had a hypnogogic experiance of hearing someone i thought might be link clearly say two words. I considered getting up to write it down, but wanted to complete my WILD. I was sure I would remember it, but did not. The phrase was two words that I did not understand as anything other than a name. I think it was something like Cyana Silaque, but honestly can not recall what it was.

Pass word recieved: yes, but forgotten perhaps close to Cyana Silaque
Lucid: HIs/yes
T.S.A: 5 hours
S.D.S: none/ name

It's now 2:50pm same day Thur 16-Aug-12.

One bit of the dream keeps comming to mind like an hipnagogic image. The bird walked and jumped about the clothes-line and lifted it's right foot onto a diagonal piece of metal (not part of the real outer-world clothesline.

In the dream I worried briefly that there was some thing wrong with the birds right foot. I became most very focussed on it's little right foot as the whole little bird got smaller.

Little bird little bird from Man of La Mancha (1972)

Lyrics by Joe Darion
Sung by Men's Chorus

Lyrics:

Little bird, little bird
In the cinnamon tree
Little bird, little bird
Do you sing for me?
Do you bring me word
Of one I know?
Little bird, little bird
I love her so
Little bird, little bird
I have to know
Little bird, little bird

Beneath this tree
This cinnamon tree
We learned to love
We learned to cry
For here we met
And here we kissed
And here one cold and moonless night
We said goodbye


Little bird, little bird
Oh have pity on me
Bring her back to me now
'Neath the cinnamon tree
I have waited too long
Without a song
Little bird, little bird
Please fly, please go
little bird, little bird
And tell her so
Little bird, little bird
Little bird, little bird, little bird

Originally Posted by debrajane

False awakening

Woke and there was a slim bird flying in my bedroom. My bedroom was too big but I took that for granted.

I wanted to catch the lovely little bird to release it. The beautiful little bird began flying slowly so I could reach out and take it from the air.

It didn't struggle. It felt lovely to gently hold. I brought it to my body so it would feel safer.

I opened my bedtoom door, walked down the boarding house hallway to the courtyard. I held you up (Linkzelda) and you flew in an lovely slowmotion-way onto the clothesline.

You kind of went smaller. I have never seen that type of bird before.

I was awake and thinking about that lovely false awakenkng dream when I realised it was you.

It is now 11:11 am here now. (Thursday 16-August-2012).

Sivason, I'll be attempting to find you in your dreams tonight (12:50 AM right now). May sound like a leap of faith, but hopefully this V-MILD I'm trying out for this experiment will be a good supplement to the WBTB+WILDs I'll be attempting most of the time.

You can always take a nap in a few hours if you want to debrajane to try and synch, since it's almost 3PM your time, but it might be too late for a nap. Oh well.

Good night!

Password:sunflowers, photosynthesis
Lucid:No
Time spent asleep:9 hours 10 minutes (10:00 PM EST - 7:10 AM EST)
Significant Dreamsigns: scubadiving, brother, DJ, Mardi Gras, mother, kayak