Thread: Mind Altering Substances

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What do you want from a group of people that are on mind altering substances.

And where is your facts, since everyone else you seem to think is wrong.

Originally Posted by Howetzer

And where is your facts, since everyone else you seem to think is wrong.
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Haha, I think Howetzer has a good point. You don't believe anything that everyone else says, but how do you expect us to believe anything that you're saying?

Enough with the tool, and back to the topic. He obviously wanted to incite something with his feeble stabs in the dark, and no support what-so-ever. Just let him think he won and ignore him. Case closed.

Originally Posted by anonymous

Wrong, at least partially. You are correct that serotonin depletion can cause depression. But XTC increases serotonin not decreases.
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She is talking about the after-effect of being on XTC. Serotonin is increased during the experience but afterward, when you're coming down, and even the day after the trip, your body usually starts to feel the depletion of the seratonin that was used up during your trip.
And yes. That's true.

[Edit: Just read SolSkye's reply. lol. Sorry, man. Couldn't resist. ]

Originally Posted by Elastic

Umm... what about Morning Glories? What do they do?
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Morning Glory contains LSA.... Similar to LSD, yet not as potent.

They can make you trip though.... Unless you home grow them, or buy them from someone who home grows them.... They put mercury in them, I know there are a few brands that don't, but I forgot which.

Yea, I'd highly recommend trying MG though... As long as you can get them without mercury.

The high is really mellow, and the hallucinations are intense. That is if you take enough. The most I've done is 7 packets. To prepare the dose, you need to do the following (There are other methods as well, but this is my favorite): Buy the seeds or steal or w/e. Get a blender and put the seeds in it, mix it with juice or pop or w/e.... I'd recommend water though, so you know when they are blended enough. Blend them up... and drink.

Hope that helps.

SolSyke: If they have cough syrup, they have DXM.... just read the active ingrediants for cough medicine.... Make sure that the only active ingrediant is DXM though.

Originally Posted by XsupremeX

Morning Glory contains LSA.... Similar to LSD, yet not as potent.

They can make you trip though.... Unless you home grow them, or buy them from someone who home grows them.... They put mercury in them, I know there are a few brands that don't, but I forgot which.

Yea, I'd highly recommend trying MG though... As long as you can get them without mercury.

The high is really mellow, and the hallucinations are intense. That is if you take enough. The most I've done is 7 packets. To prepare the dose, you need to do the following (There are other methods as well, but this is my favorite): Buy the seeds or steal or w/e. Get a blender and put the seeds in it, mix it with juice or pop or w/e.... I'd recommend water though, so you know when they are blended enough. Blend them up... and drink.

Hope that helps.

SolSyke: If they have cough syrup, they have DXM.... just read the active ingrediants for cough medicine.... Make sure that the only active ingrediant is DXM though.
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yeah, i was looking at natural seed brands, and one of them is "Plantation Products Inc". all natural, no fertilizers or nothin'. i heard its a law that companies have to state on the package that it contains mercury or fertilizers, though.

Yea, ofcourse your still going to get pesticides and other chemicals... but it's not as bad as having mercury in them.

Another downside of LSA, well for me anyways, is after a while, it kinda gets boring. The reason I say that is because, the high is really mellow.... So it's pretty much hallucinations and that's it. Although it's still pretty fun. After about 3 hours you get pretty bored though. It wouldn't be that bad, but you'l find that you can't concentrate on anything.... Like if your watching a movie or reading... Plus, it's like impossible to fall asleep.

So for me, after about 3-4 hours of the trip, I wish I was sober... But yea, if your poor, and you need to trip. I'd highly recommend Morning Glory.

So if I would like to try the cough syrup style DXM trip what kind of side effects and amount should I be looking for?

Originally Posted by Oneironaut

She is talking about the after-effect of being on XTC. Serotonin is increased during the experience but afterward, when you're coming down, and even the day after the trip, your body usually starts to feel the depletion of the seratonin that was used up during your trip.
And yes. That's true.[/b]

Thank YOU!! Absolutely NONE of the information I have given has been incorrect. My god, would you people please READ before posting.

And SolSkye...will you PLEASE read what I said about COUGH SYRUPS BEFORE YOU GO BUYING SOME. Seriously...don't get cough syrup, stick with the gel tabs. The syrups will make you sick and give you the runs. Here: http://www.drugstore.com/products/prod.asp...Y-PLST-0-SEARCH

That is DexAlone. It contains 30mg of DXM per capsule. Depending on your height/weight...and which plateau you want to visit (and if you don't know anything about the plateaus then go to erowid.com and read about them PLEASE) With that info I can tell you how much would be a good dose to take.

Ugh.

About the Morning Glory seeds...you need to GRIND THEM to get the LSA out of the center of the seed. Make sure you ask the people wherever you are getting them from if they put any chemicals on them. If they do, stay away from those.

Drinking ground up morning glory seeds can make you sick...but there seems to be a simple process of extracting the LSA from the seeds and leaving all the gunk behind that makes you sick. I'm going to give it a shot once I get my petroleum ether and seeds. Anyways...here's a link on how to extract LSA from Morning Glory seeds....

http://www.erowid.org/plants/morning_glory...glory_faq.shtml

And here's a link to a very complete and comprehensive DXM FAQs:
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dxm/faq/dxm_faq.shtml

TY nina. I don't know why I put cough syrup in that post I knew what you had posted about it but it slipped my mind. Anyway, hopefully they ship the pills to Japan.

Mind if I PM you about the weight/height/plateau dealio?

Lol, I have a big bag of morning glory seeds i've been picking from all over the city. Time to do something with them soon.

I once read about a process of extracting DXM from cough syrup, ending up with a white powder. Anyone ever try this? Gotta be better than drinking it. *Shudders*

Originally Posted by The

Lol, I have a big bag of morning glory seeds i've been picking from all over the city. Time to do something with them soon.

I once read about a process of extracting DXM from cough syrup, ending up with a white powder. Anyone ever try this? Gotta be better than drinking it. *Shudders*
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I've made morning glory (flying saucers if I remember correctly-a thousand of them) coffee. It was alright and my stomach felt fine and then.. BAM! I puked and kept puking until there was nothing in me, and after that I puked up nothing for the ENTIRE night. Every five fucking minutes. Of course I was tripping and my pupils were like a cats, but almost no hullucinations and I feel it almost fucking killed me. If your going to eat morning glorys, DO IT RIGHT. Take the time to make an alcohal extraction, or your in for a bad time.

As for DXM, get a bottle of Delsym, and if you can't handle the taste, its very easy to extract. Get a 2 liter bottle, pour in the Delsym and then add water until its about half full. Shake the bottle for a couple of minutes and let settle for 4 hours. Because the DXM in Delsym is covered in an edible plastic, it will sink to the bottom of the bottle because the Delsym is diluted with water. The point is to make the delsym less thick, thus making the DXM polerex sink to the bottom. Then just find a way to get out the water without loosing any DXM. I haven't tried this as of yet but it makes perfect sense.

I like psychedelics myself. I've only done small doses of LSD-25 because the acid is so god damn bad in my city and also so god damn expensive (10-20$ a hit). I have done mushrooms (4 grams). It was incredible but I believe I didn't get as much out of it as I could have, and I didn't take enough to completely break through. Of course I've done DXM (a lot of it) and I love it. I've also done a lot of Ether, which tripped me out completely (very heavy abuse for 3 months). Ether really fucks with you, but the high is truely incredible. Its hard to explain the main feelings it brings on, but far into my abuse it started to put me in different world, if for only a moment. I stopped because it caused strange psychedleic tourture. Not physical but as real as a dream.

I'm extracting DMT soon. I can't wait.

If you are interested in morning glory seeds...See the previous link I posted about morning glory seeds. It explains everything...why you got sick...how to do it properly, etc. Read it thoroughly. I just bought some petroleum ether and a bunch of Heavenly Blue seeds. I'm going to do the extraction, and I'll let you guys know how it goes for me.

If you are going to do something like extract pure DXM from cough syrup...or extract LSA from morning glory seeds...just DO YOUR RESEARCH. There are great guides on Erowid and other places. Just don't be stupid, and go by 1 person's report...because there are hundreds of different reports that will tell you hundreds of different things. AND BE CAREFUL.

I also just purchased some San Pedro cactus cuts (similar to peyote)...I'll let you guys know how that goes as well.

I've used shrooms, and had some crazy dreams the one time I happened to fall asleep on them.

Dose anyone know how to gather shrooms or reliable info an the subject.

http://www.erowid.org/plants/mushrooms/mushrooms.shtml

Cool! Thanks!

Or just buy some organically grown MG seeds...

Some people don't have the time nor the money to do the extraction.

The MGs I got were a variety called "Flying Saucers". I don't believe they had any pestisides on them, because I had previously ground up around 200 of them and just swallowed them, and there was no vomiting, but minor stomach pain. Erowid says that MGs have certain alkaloids that can make you very sicks, and because of my crude extraction I obviously did not purify it enough. Maybe one day I'll take the time to do a proper extraction, but for now I'm just going to persue my search for some real LSD-25.

I'm ordering some Diplopterys cabrerana from a site called Psychoactive Herbs, which they claim is from Ecuador. Acording to Erowid it has a average of 14.6 mg of dimethyltryptamine per gram, and the stuff is only 85$ for half a kilo.
I found an extraction technique that seems very easy, but they are using Mimosa Hostilis Root Bark (I've heard this is because MHRB has almost no fat), so I'm not positive I can use the Diplopterys cabrerana without strongly reducing the purity of the final product. I've read many other extraction techniques off of Erowid, and for leaf you must go through a defatting process. I'm hesitant to use any of these techs because the final products are not pure crystal. Does anyone have any advice as to what I should do? I want to stick with extracting the Diplopterys cabrerana because it has the highest DMT content I've heard of (the strain from Ecuador), and if its legit, which I think it is, I could get anywhere from 5 to 8 grams of DMT.

From what I hear and from what I've read, DMT is truely incredible. If anyones interested in it I suggest checking out the DMT Vault at Erowid. Its not really available on the main stream market these days, as far as I know. It was more popular when Terence Mckenna was around, because of his lectures of the fantastic visionary state it induces. You can get an idea of what he spoke of here.

The stuff goes for 400$ a gram if its very good quality, and for a single hit its goes as high as 30$. Even if I could find it around, the price would be to high for me to afford.

I'm also wondering if anyone on this forum has ever tried it before, either in smokable form or in an ayahuasca brew. If anyone has, please share.

Taltho, I'm from Arkansas, where mushrooms grow wild. I have two personal mushroom fields that I call my own. One of these holds the gooiest, bluest, most juicy mushrooms I've ever seen.

I can harvest mushrooms.

What would you like to know?

Originally Posted by sloth

Taltho, I'm from Arkansas, where mushrooms grow wild. I have two personal mushroom fields that I call my own. One of these holds the gooiest, bluest, most juicy mushrooms I've ever seen.

I can harvest mushrooms.

What would you like to know?
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Lucky bastard.

I like your cupcakes.

Wow... I wish I had shrooms growing in my backyard. Well, I've been wondering, since a lot of shrooms grow on cow dung, what would happen if you put some manure (from a store) in a field, and left it for a few days? Would it be a suitable environment for them? Thanks...

There are maany factors.
Even what the cows ate.
They need to be grain fed cows. Nothing artificial. And even then, many grains are treated to kill off such things.

Not only that, but trying to grow mushrooms outside, without controlled conditions, is almost impossible. It happens in nature, but percentage-wise, not often. Naturally, you'll find psylocybe mushrooms on one out of every 100 or so cow patties. Great for Arkansas, but when you're at home, those odds aren't good.

Another thing to look at is sterility. There is hardly any competition in the mushroom kingdom. If anything infects an area, the mushrooms won't touch it. Anyone who has been to a cow field can tell you that MANY mushrooms grow out of cow dung. Why? Because it comes out sterile, and is high in nutrients, and moist. Soon after coming out, however, anything can contaminate it. Usually, it's spores from another fungus. The only reason you can find them in the wild is because in a cow field you can find over a hundred patties. One of them will probably have good mushrooms.
However, if you were to try this with some manure, the sterility factor is destroyed, and god knows what kind of nutrients are still in it. It certainly won't be the best growing condition.

However, there are other things you can use. Mushrooms can grow on grasses, bark... I used to use peat moss because I got a vast supply of it from the greenhouse I worked in. And if you are hoping to grow mushrooms, I can post some stuff here, as long as admins don't get angry. lol

-sloth