Thread: Shared Dreaming - How to find other people when lucid!

shred, so are you saying, just your feelings of the person and your intent is enough?

You guys seem like a knowledgeable and experienced bunch. So hopefully you can give me some ideas of what this is:

I grew up in a haunted farmhouse in Canada, people saw ghosts all the time there. When I was 14, I saw a ghost for the first time. There was a blueish glow in the room like if I was wearing blue tinted glasses. Anyway he looked at me and I felt like I 'knew' him, and we could communicate our emotions as opposed to telepathy. I'm sure this person was NOT connected to the house, he was wearing modern clothes and I got the sense he was African-American, and I knew the history of the house somewhat.

Anyway I can't remember if it started before this or after but I've been having dreams about this guy for almost 15 years now (just turned 29). When I was 16 I kept dreaming about going to the south, like Mississippi, and I ended up moving to New Orleans for 3 years. This is how much these dreams are affecting my life! Felt like he was down there somewhere and strangely I felt very 'at home' in the south. I thought he was a ghost at first but now I think this guy is alive somewhere and knows how to astral travel, or psychic or something. Anyway I feel a connection with him even stronger than with my family (and I'm very close with my family). Theres many reasons I think he's alive, like sometimes I just see his life in my dreams, or once we said we loved each other, and I asked him if we can meet in the afterlife; he looked sad and said 'I don't know..I don't know where I'm going after I die'.

About 80% of the time I go lucid I search for him (even when I'm not lucid). But I feel like there's a 'block' like someone will be holding me down so I can't go see him. In dreams he acts like we're breaking rules by seeing each other in dreams, not sure why? Been to psychics nobody can pick up on this, and was hypnotised to stop these dreams but it only worked for 4 months and they started again. Possibly going mad! Thoughts?

Dear lucidsoma

Nick Newport made the free Lucidology 101 then the $35 Lucidology 102.

His Lucidology 103 talks about using the Lucid dreaming skills, (from 101 and 102) to find your Oversoul and contact the other incarnations your oversoul has on the Earth NOW and since timeisnotlinia he encourages Lucid Dreamers to get to know all your Oversouls incarnation through all time on Earth.

Sounds like you found one of your Oversouls incarnations who is alive NOW. It is said that the connection between these incarnations is closer than family and friends because all those incarnations are like extensions of that Oversoul who is learning so much through, say, you and the ghost-like friend you met when you were 16.

Just my thoughts, lucidsoma.

Originally Posted by lucidsoma

You guys seem like a knowledgeable and experienced bunch. So hopefully you can give me some ideas of what this is:

I grew up in a haunted farmhouse in Canada, people saw ghosts all the time there. When I was 14, I saw a ghost for the first time. There was a blueish glow in the room like if I was wearing blue tinted glasses. Anyway he looked at me and I felt like I 'knew' him, and we could communicate our emotions as opposed to telepathy. I'm sure this person was NOT connected to the house, he was wearing modern clothes and I got the sense he was African-American, and I knew the history of the house somewhat.

Anyway I can't remember if it started before this or after but I've been having dreams about this guy for almost 15 years now (just turned 29). When I was 16 I kept dreaming about going to the south, like Mississippi, and I ended up moving to New Orleans for 3 years. This is how much these dreams are affecting my life! Felt like he was down there somewhere and strangely I felt very 'at home' in the south. I thought he was a ghost at first but now I think this guy is alive somewhere and knows how to astral travel, or psychic or something. Anyway I feel a connection with him even stronger than with my family (and I'm very close with my family). Theres many reasons I think he's alive, like sometimes I just see his life in my dreams, or once we said we loved each other, and I asked him if we can meet in the afterlife; he looked sad and said 'I don't know..I don't know where I'm going after I die'.

About 80% of the time I go lucid I search for him (even when I'm not lucid). But I feel like there's a 'block' like someone will be holding me down so I can't go see him. In dreams he acts like we're breaking rules by seeing each other in dreams, not sure why? Been to psychics nobody can pick up on this, and was hypnotised to stop these dreams but it only worked for 4 months and they started again. Possibly going mad! Thoughts?

Does any one know where Nick Newpor is? I haven't heard from him in over a year.

Originally Posted by debrajane

Dear lucidsoma

Nick Newport made the free Lucidology 101 then the $35 Lucidology 102.

His Lucidology 103 talks about using the Lucid dreaming skills, (from 101 and 102) to find your Oversoul and contact the other incarnations your oversoul has on the Earth NOW and since timeisnotlinia he encourages Lucid Dreamers to get to know all your Oversouls incarnation through all time on Earth.

Sounds like you found one of your Oversouls incarnations who is alive NOW. It is said that the connection between these incarnations is closer than family and friends because all those incarnations are like extensions of that Oversoul who is learning so much through, say, you and the ghost-like friend you met when you were 16.

Just my thoughts, lucidsoma.



Does any one know where Nick Newpor is? I haven't heard from him in over a year.

Does that mean..he's me?? Like he's my soul incarnated into another body at the same time? Maybe that's why we'd be 'breaking the rules' if we met?

Lucidsoma and Hatefringo

Here is a link to the first thread I opened here on Dreamviews. Look at post number 5 because it is about Oversouls.

http://www.dreamviews.com/f20/i-am-h...anx-you-93923/

I found more on the Oversoul. Two of my posts on another site, (IASD)

Saturday 19/July/2010

I had a similar "dream" to the one where you walked in on yourself O.

In his Lucidology 103 Nick "tries" to describe "Cosmic Jellyfish".*

To me, this is spectacularly advanced OBE/LD stuff ("Cosmic Jellyfish")*

I sometimes think that I am the only one who has a copy of the first 2 downloads of Nick Lucidology 103. I can't get anyone on Saltcube to talk to me about "Cosmic Jellyfish".*

I think what you just described about walking in on yourself is cosmic Jellyfish obe.

2nd post by me a little later on the thread called Lucid Dreams verses Out of Body experiances

The builder of Saltcube, Nicholas Newport (aka Matthew Jones) in Lucidology 103 said something like this (but my memory is not very reliable so please don't quote me):*

There are structures that resemble huge Jellyfish far above.*

I, me, Debra Jane am at the end of one of "my" jellyfish's tendrils. But "my" Jellyfish may have more than one tendril coming down from it's body (oversoul), to this planet, the Earth.*

He says a lot more than that.*

In an assignment he asks that the next time I see something resembling what he (and other intrepid "dreamers") described ... well ... he gave an assignment.*

Weeks later I had a very unusual dream. I don't know if I posted it on Saltcube. I had forgotten about Nick's assignment.*

Anyway*

I was me (female) but in a younger, prettier, more flexible and far more comfortable body than ... this one ...*

I seem to remember checking-in to a nice posh hotel, getting into bed and falling asleep.*

Next*

I was being woken by a man, (big handsome, polite, with a beard). I was in his hotel room and in his bed.*

I told him that I was given the room.*

Next*

The nice hotel manager was there apologizing to both of us and saying that he will take me to another room so I could sleep.*

I went over to a mirror with a tooth brush. It was my face in the mirror. I touched the bristles of the tooth brush to my upper-lip a few times and my face changed to that of the "big, handsome, polite, bearded man".*

Then the 3 of us left in search of a room for me.*

We walked into the bar of a nice Casino. I felt safe because I was a tall strong bearded man and I belonged here, I was at home here. End of dream.*

Well*

I think I completed Nick's assignment.*

I think I went to my "Oversoul" (Jellyfish) and met another of the "Oversoul's" present, incarnations, from this planet.*

I tell you, Nicholas Newport's Lucidology 103 is really something.*

Sorry, but*

SPRUIK, SPRUIK, SPRUIK.

End of post on the IASD Discussion Board from July 2010

Sorry I find your posts quite hard to follow, and still have no clue what an 'oversoul' is??

Originally Posted by debrajane

I found more on the Oversoul. Two of my posts on another site, (IASD)

Saturday 19/July/2010

I had a similar "dream" to the one where you walked in on yourself O.

In his Lucidology 103 Nick "tries" to describe "Cosmic Jellyfish".*

To me, this is spectacularly advanced OBE/LD stuff ("Cosmic Jellyfish")*

I sometimes think that I am the only one who has a copy of the first 2 downloads of Nick Lucidology 103. I can't get anyone on Saltcube to talk to me about "Cosmic Jellyfish".*

I think what you just described about walking in on yourself is cosmic Jellyfish obe.

2nd post by me a little later on the thread called Lucid Dreams verses Out of Body experiances

The builder of Saltcube, Nicholas Newport (aka Matthew Jones) in Lucidology 103 said something like this (but my memory is not very reliable so please don't quote me):*

There are structures that resemble huge Jellyfish far above.*

I, me, Debra Jane am at the end of one of "my" jellyfish's tendrils. But "my" Jellyfish may have more than one tendril coming down from it's body (oversoul), to this planet, the Earth.*

He says a lot more than that.*

In an assignment he asks that the next time I see something resembling what he (and other intrepid "dreamers") described ... well ... he gave an assignment.*

Weeks later I had a very unusual dream. I don't know if I posted it on Saltcube. I had forgotten about Nick's assignment.*

Anyway*

I was me (female) but in a younger, prettier, more flexible and far more comfortable body than ... this one ...*

I seem to remember checking-in to a nice posh hotel, getting into bed and falling asleep.*

Next*

I was being woken by a man, (big handsome, polite, with a beard). I was in his hotel room and in his bed.*

I told him that I was given the room.*

Next*

The nice hotel manager was there apologizing to both of us and saying that he will take me to another room so I could sleep.*

I went over to a mirror with a tooth brush. It was my face in the mirror. I touched the bristles of the tooth brush to my upper-lip a few times and my face changed to that of the "big, handsome, polite, bearded man".*

Then the 3 of us left in search of a room for me.*

We walked into the bar of a nice Casino. I felt safe because I was a tall strong bearded man and I belonged here, I was at home here. End of dream.*

Well*

I think I completed Nick's assignment.*

I think I went to my "Oversoul" (Jellyfish) and met another of the "Oversoul's" present, incarnations, from this planet.*

I tell you, Nicholas Newport's Lucidology 103 is really something.*

Sorry, but*

SPRUIK, SPRUIK, SPRUIK.

End of post on the IASD Discussion Board from July 2010

Originally Posted by lucidsoma

Sorry I find your posts quite hard to follow, and still have no clue what an 'oversoul' is??

I'm not sure if I'm on the same page or not, but the oversoul sounds a lot like the theory that one soul can reincarnate in the same time period multiple times. Like, two (or more) people can actually share the same soul. The whole jelly fish analogy was great! It's pretty much saying that your soul is out there on whatever plane or in what ever dimensions souls are rooted in, but instead of it only having a direct thread (tentacle!) to you, it also has a thread or tentacle to someone else, or even multiple people. And the "oversoul" would be the body of the jelly fish, right? It was hard for me to understand when I first heard the reincarnation theory a long time ago because I grew up in a very christian setting, where you have a soul, and your soul only belongs to you! This theory contrasts directly with how I was raise. The concept of people sharing the same soul seemed so odd to me, but after a while it really began to make sense to me. I look at it like this, people speak of meeting their soul mates, someone who makes them feel complete, who feel what they feel and are so in sync with them that they always know what the other is thinking. Maybe those soul "mates" are in fact two people with the same soul. That could explain why they feel like something is missing until they meet, because they are in fact two parts of the same greater soul. I could be way off base, but that's what I thought of when I read the whole Oversoul thing.

DebraJane, thanks for your post about the oversouls thing. I found this site looking for some answers to some things, and your over souls post connected several dots for me! I knew about dream sharing, and I knew about people being able to share souls, but I never thought to connect the two. Just wanted to confirm, your suggesting that someone else, that you have never met could in theory travel to your dreams if you share the same soul by just following the souls tentacles? and any chance you have any stories supporting it? Or is it just theory right now?

Thanks for that! Ok now I get it. That is pretty interesting. I've also wondered if we're the same soul..but it seems so strange! I grew up without a religion and was always thinking of different possibilities but even with that background it is very hard for me to get my head around.

DebraJane, thanks for introducing that concept here, definitely something for me to think about.

Ok this might explain something else that's been happening to me. The past few years, when I meditate, I can't visualise the right side of my body. It's like it's greyish and see-through, whereas I can visualise the left side perfectly fine. Also about 10 years ago I asked some people in my dream where 'he' is, and they pointed to me, and it seemed like 1/2 of me was just me, 1/2 of him was just him, then the other halves of us was overlapped.

this just keeps getting weirder and weirder.

Originally Posted by Mydera

I'm not sure if I'm on the same page or not, but the oversoul sounds a lot like the theory that one soul can reincarnate in the same time period multiple times. Like, two (or more) people can actually share the same soul. The whole jelly fish analogy was great! It's pretty much saying that your soul is out there on whatever plane or in what ever dimensions souls are rooted in, but instead of it only having a direct thread (tentacle!) to you, it also has a thread or tentacle to someone else, or even multiple people. And the "oversoul" would be the body of the jelly fish, right? It was hard for me to understand when I first heard the reincarnation theory a long time ago because I grew up in a very christian setting, where you have a soul, and your soul only belongs to you! This theory contrasts directly with how I was raise. The concept of people sharing the same soul seemed so odd to me, but after a while it really began to make sense to me. I look at it like this, people speak of meeting their soul mates, someone who makes them feel complete, who feel what they feel and are so in sync with them that they always know what the other is thinking. Maybe those soul "mates" are in fact two people with the same soul. That could explain why they feel like something is missing until they meet, because they are in fact two parts of the same greater soul. I could be way off base, but that's what I thought of when I read the whole Oversoul thing.

DebraJane, thanks for your post about the oversouls thing. I found this site looking for some answers to some things, and your over souls post connected several dots for me! I knew about dream sharing, and I knew about people being able to share souls, but I never thought to connect the two. Just wanted to confirm, your suggesting that someone else, that you have never met could in theory travel to your dreams if you share the same soul by just following the souls tentacles? and any chance you have any stories supporting it? Or is it just theory right now?

Just curious, if you try to share a dream with someone, but when you jump into their dream they don't look like, act like, or feel like themselves, does that mean the method you tried didn't work and you need to try something else, or just that the method didn't work THAT time and you could try it again and it might work? I guess what I'm trying to ask is, can every technique work for everyone with enough practice, or do we need to try different techniques until we find the one technique that works for us?

Is it possible for me and my friend to meet up in a dream if she lives in America and I live in the UK even if we haven't met in real life?

Originally Posted by oxboyryan

Is it possible for me and my friend to meet up in a dream if she lives in America and I live in the UK even if we haven't met in real life?

Of course.

Originally Posted by Mydera

Just curious, if you try to share a dream with someone, but when you jump into their dream they don't look like, act like, or feel like themselves, does that mean the method you tried didn't work and you need to try something else, or just that the method didn't work THAT time and you could try it again and it might work? I guess what I'm trying to ask is, can every technique work for everyone with enough practice, or do we need to try different techniques until we find the one technique that works for us?

They don't always look,feel and act themselves, keep that in mind. And dreams do trick you, so keep aware of that too. Plus try and test this person before judging as well.

Oh this is a really interesting thread! I've tried to arrange shared dreams with people before just for fun but it never worked for me. lol I did have one shared dream by accident, though, and it was a really random dream and a really random person I shared it with so yea...I had this dream I was at my parents' office and I saw my friend's brother there and we were talking and we saw a black cat outside the office walking on the sidewalk. I got worried about the cat so I ran outside to bring it into the office. I went back in the office and for some reason the guy (my friend's brother) and I got into an argument and he was yelling at me. I mentioned the dream to him later cuz I thought it was funny I dreamed of him and he was freaked out because he had a dream with a lot of the same stuff in it (the black cat, the office, etc.) but he was yelling at his MOM in the dream (I'm not that old :/...).

This is a really cool thread, so I am bumping it so people know about it. Also this thread comes up as a top hit on Google.

Originally Posted by Man of Shred

The Essence technique

The main way to find real people when you are lucid involves changing dreams at will. Different people have different methods for this. Naiya uses a TARDIS, Raven Knight opens portals with music, and I voice my intent to change dreams.

I once found a white Owl while Lucid. I had a feeling it had to do with someone i knew. I voiced my intent to follow it and It led me to one of the most vivid lucid dreams I have ever had.

If both people are intending to dream together they might wind up in the same dream spontaneously!

Once you are lucid: Use your feeling of the person. Everyone in dreaming has a unique energy signature you can recognise them by. It is a subtle feeling of simply knowing THAT person IS that PERSON, no matter how they may appear to you.

Once you have this feeling of the person. Focus that feeling to change dreams and the dream you wind up in will be that persons.

ex from me and Raven knight.

My dream: Dream 4: I was playing a Sonic the Hedgehog video game. And i discovered a glitch. I thought it was cool so i ran out of the house and found Mark75 to tell him about it.

for some reason I got mark to follow me to show him the glitch. But when we arrived Raven Knight had taken his place. She followed me into my house and we were talking a little bit. Her face was hidden behind some sort of white hood. she stopped me and said that i should look at her. She pulled the hood away and revealed her face. I was staring at a child like face that seemed young. but all her hair was white or grey. It was kind of strange. She asked what i had thought... I just said it was nice to finally get to see her.


Her dream:
I focused on using Through the Never to open a portal to find R. A portal opened. Nomad and I went through the portal. On the other side we were in a neighborhood. We were just outside a house. There was a man there. He went over to Nomad. He told Nomad that there was something he needed to show him. I wondered if that was R and he was already lucid. Nomad and I both followed R into the house. He went over to his computer, which was doing something strange. R turned towards me now and looked a bit surprised.

"Raven?" he asked, "I thought you were Mark."

"Who?" I asked. Had he thought Nomad was someone named Mark? Apparently he recognized me, though.

"Can I see your face?" R asked. I realized I was dressed as an Assassin from Assassin's Creed. I pulled my hood away from my face so he could see it more clearly. He stared at me for a bit. I asked him what he saw. I wondered if he saw me the way I picture myself or if he had a different image. He stared a bit more and then disappeared. I pulled a Homer "D'Oh!" at the fact he had disappeared. I turned towards Nomad. He was also gone. I pulled a double Homer. ("D'Oh, D'Oh!") Now I felt like I was about to wake up. I barely got off my triple Homer ("D'Oh, D'Oh, D'Oh!") before I woke up.

You can also use a variation on the meeting place. Once you are lucid. Change dreams and go to the meeting place.

Another VERY Important thing: Guides!

Extra dimensional Entities, spirits of the deceased, Totem animals, and Higher (lighter) Density beings... Some are good, some are Evil. So pick your guides wisely. Some have been with your entire life and are simply waiting for you to acknowledge that they are there. Some you can find using the Above Essence technique. getting a few of them is handy, each one has something unique to offer. They serve as a voice in dreams and also a voice in your thoughts in waking life.

Sometimes All i need to do before bed is to pick a person or a subject to dream about. I do this by briefly thinking it, or writing it down. Then the next night or in a few days I WILL have a dream about that person or subject which I selected. often when this happens, in my dream, my guide will be right beside me. This works lucid or not!

Do the 2 people have to be sleeping at the same time?

Originally Posted by Man of Shred

The Essence technique

The main way to find real people when you are lucid involves changing dreams at will. Different people have different methods for this. Naiya uses a TARDIS, Raven Knight opens portals with music, and I voice my intent to change dreams.

I once found a white Owl while Lucid. I had a feeling it had to do with someone i knew. I voiced my intent to follow it and It led me to one of the most vivid lucid dreams I have ever had.

After reading this, it makes me belief that you've read carlos castanedas works?
Carlos talks about these entities called explorers, that are found inside our dreams and offer us help to travel around worlds because they have mor esuperior energy than ours.
They can have any form/shape and some can be dangerous or not, I find it really awesome that you can follow your owl just like Carlos could follow his explorer.

Hello, may i know which books are quite good to learn Lucid Dreaming?

I usually try to persuade other dream characters that they are dreaming. Showing them what you can do in the dream, telekinesis seems to be the trigger that works best for me. Most times I'm just showing off in my own private idaho but every once and a while, someone i know will email me and tell me they dreamed i was doing jedi shit.

look into Steven LaBerge or Robert Monroe, both are helpful.

bumping this. Answering the last couple questions. I don't read much monroe stuff, or Laberge. I prefer to experience things from my own point of view. So far not many have been able to touch what Nomad, Raven, and myself have done.