Agreed, about the obstacles, thing. My main problem with this is when it comes to flying. Sometimes, it can be effortless, but if I think about it too much, I tend to 'sink'. I think it was just another manifestation of that issue, why Spider-Man kept being so stubborn. And thanks! I didn't even think about the fact that they were both building something. I'm not to sure what it might mean, but I am an artist and musician, and have lately been a little upset that I've been too busy dealing with other things, to work on some pending projects that I have. It's possible that that could be related? I'm not sure. A buddy of mine also asked me, over the weekend, if I would come out to some land he's getting, sometime, so we can start building dirt bike and ATV trails that we can use. So, yeah, I guess the idea of building is pretty fresh in my mind. [Edit] OH! There is also some renovating being done in our office, at work. So we have been working along side a construction crew, who have been breaking things down and building other sections to our floor, for the past few days. I think that might have been even more of an influence.
I think that happens to a lot of us--the desire to accomplish something manifests as obstacles. I suppose be t time you could pretend to be afraid of Spider-Man, or pretend to be a villain: maybe those would trick your subconscious into cooperating a bit more Great dream, though: love how Spider-Man and the DBZ guys were both building something. Any idea what that was about? Very cool dream!
Thanks, JadeGreen. I'm not sure, about Spider-Man. He kind of reminded me of my reflection. Sometimes, when I have encounters with my reflection (in mirrors), it has this completely stand-offish attitude, like he's kind of smug and just never wants to co-operate. That's kind of how this Spider-Man was. I think it was because I was attempting to accomplish something, and that level of anxiety was creating a counter-productive tone in what it was I was trying to do. That happens to me, sometimes.
Even if everything you did turned out a failure, you still seem to be very skilled at lucid dreaming. Good Job. I wonder why Spider Man did not want to fight you.
Yeah, it's the same with me. I've been really trying to commit to at least writing my notes down. It's the least I can do. It keeps my recall [somewhat] sharp, and I tend to regret completely losing my adventures by not writing something down. Self-discipline was never really my strong suit, but it's something to shoot for. Haha. That way, even if I end up deciding not to write out the whole dream, I can post the notes, even if they are hard to read. Lol. I've had some pretty good successes, lately, too, so I really want to make sure I log those. I read something, a few weeks ago, but I can't find the thread so I don't know if I read it on this site or another. Someone suggested doing the WBTB method and upon waking, doing Logic Puzzles and Brain Teasers online, in order to exercise the logic center in the brain, so that it will be more active whenever you fall back asleep to complete the WBTB. I've tried this 3 times, since reading it, and have had lucid dreams each time. 3 out of 3 is pretty good, so I'm going to keep on trying it (when I get enough sleep to warrant it, which has been hard, lately). But that is helping me stay motivated.
I am very behind on many dreams too, mostly, days I skip from my DJ is not about not dreaming, is about dreaming too much lol.
Lol. Same here. I always just write down notes when I wake up. It takes me about 30 seconds (and sometimes it's even hard to do that. Lol). I just run through everything I can remember and do like one paragraph of broken English. Lol. That way, whenever I get the time, I can go back and write them all the way out...which generally takes an hour or two. It's such a damn chore. That's why I'm still trying to get caught up. Lol.
Sometimes I wake up with the feeling of having an enormous dream and get lazy to write it down lol.
I completely agree. I tend to enjoy these types of conversations, anyway.
No worries, I totally understand. Not sure where I was going with any of that ^ anyway. It's just nice being able to think out loud without having to be careful.
Sorry for the long delay. Time's been pretty short for me, but I haven't forgotten about you! Will respond soon.
Very true about the Avatar dream not being so easily dismissed. It had occurred to me pain control isn't in the movie. I know there's a point where Jake is restrained (and possibly punched? Been a while...) still though, I don't know if there's even a way to measure which comes first: physical or the mental. I know for emotional responses, I'd like to be able to say those formed in dreams and I experienced them upon waking. On the other hand, who's to say there wasn't a chemical imbalance which brought upon those emotions first, then my mind experienced them in the way it saw fit. Going a little more into that idea, I'd assume manifestation plays a part in this too. Consciousness manifesting itself. Kinsey had some interesting research (but it's outdated, 1948) on nocturnal emissions (wet dreams). He gave a range of ~80% of males experiencing this event within their lifetime. Women were lower but still common enough. Though, on a completely superficial note, one study used a lucid dreamer to notify researchers with a pre-determined set of eye motions when she was dreaming, then again when she'd orgasm. They measured different physiological responses, one of them being vaginal pulses. How does one apply to be a participant for such research?! She'd have to be able to lucid dream well enough to communicate with eye motions to the research team upon gaining lucidity, then find a way to have lucid dream sex, then remember to flutter her eyes in a specific sequence during orgasm....all while having a device inserted into her vagina, to measure her response and accuracy. My mind = blown. Question here, when you were false sobbing was this during a state of high emotional arousal? I ask because I've only been able to transfer dreaming emotions to reality during a state of high emotional arousal...wondering what's it's like for you. Yeah, and that is a pretty funny story. I get what you mean about the 'fade out' in response to pain. It actually remind me of the subspace individuals enter when engaged in BDSM. Another question (thank you for entertaining my thoughts!), if detachment is essential to nirvana (which I agree with, btw) wouldn't that be a case of going too far? The point of nirvana is to 'detach from everything to a point where nothing is all there is'. Nothing would matter, nothing would change, nothing would move them. Yet nirvana is the highest form of enlightenment in the eyes of those who practice Buddhism.. so.. I'm going to assume that you aren't a Buddhist... lol. I tend to practice a similar approach to lucid dreaming that you've mentioned. There is the understanding that it's my very own sandbox and there are challenges (for me) when I try to manipulate too much of it. Smaller manipulations can lead to the larger manipulations, but it's generally only done by tweaking small details. That's why I usually just 'go along for the ride'. It's difficult to work against myself. Nice hearing you do things similar.
Actually, I'm not too sure that the Avatar dream is so 'open-and-shut'. I may have induced the dream's Avatar theme with the movie, but the whole pain aspect of it wasn't really something brought on by the movie (or even explored in the movie). Even now, I'm not exactly sure where that pain element might have come from. As with the broken leg and bear dream, I'm not sure if the dream content caused my mind to manifest the pain, or if a real injury caused my mind to spin the dream narrative into something facilitating the pain. Either way is fascinating, though, really. I've definitely woken up with many of the conditions you stated (although I don't think I've ever woken up with an actual orgasm. I do hear that's quite common in women, though). Funny thing about waking up crying: I once had a dream that I was being chased by the police and disguised myself as a woman. A cop was questioning me and I attempted to get out of it by fake-crying. I actually woke up sobbing a completely-false sob, as if I had really been giving the role all I had. Once I realized what had happened, I rolled over in bed and just laughed at the absurdity of it. Lol. Detachment is essential to nirvana, I think. It is an important trait that I believe everyone should have some capacity for. It not only helps us deal with pain (both physical and mental), but it keeps us from obsessing over things, as well, which is generally unhealthy. Growing up, I've always had a low threshold for pain. As I got older, I've learned that coping with it actually relies on a fair bit of detachment. I'm still not the kind of person that takes any kind of pleasure, whatsoever, from pain, but I've learned how to just kinda 'fade out' my hyper-awareness of parts of my body, so that painful experiences are much less intense than they normally might be. And moderation is everything. I believe there is a 'too far' to everything. An extreme example would be the type of person who 'detaches' from everything to a point where 'nothing' is all there is. Nothing matters. Nothing changes. Nothing moves them. Nothing is real. Etc. Etc. Detachment, in all its forms, has to be countered with some attention / awareness / consideration, because if you value nothing, and you're passionate about nothing, then what joy is there in being a part of anything? I tend to allow myself to get swept up the more interesting storylines of my dreams. It can be easy for me to just detach myself from them and do my own thing, but part of my interest in lucid dreaming has been the adventure of it all, so I sometimes dive into them, like a good book. The adrenaline rushes and split-second decisions; the surreal encounters with unfamiliar elements of my own psyche; the humility of knowing that I'm in my own sandbox, but can still be overwhelmed by the odds my subconscious throws my way - all of that, sometimes, makes me enjoy just 'getting involved' and trying to let the story tell itself, even while I manipulate smaller elements of it to suit my situations. Not always, though. Sometimes I completely disconnect from my dream-self's actions, and press 'pause' on whatever's going on around me. But, like I said, everything in moderation. Each method has its merits.
See, that's what I'm curious about. Your foot pain and the broken leg, both could easily been induced by real pain. Can't really count the avatar dream in this because you induced it with the movie, so it's pretty clear what caused what. I haven't woken up much with lingering dream pain. Though I have experienced anger, crying, orgasms, and panic. These were manifested while in a dream and transferred themselves over to the waking realm. Come to think of it, I've experienced transferred pain. I was with some friends in a dream, they were pulling ghosts/demons out of me. Seems there was an army inside me. In the dream I vomited. Woke up very close to vomiting. On a different tangent, it's interesting you were taught to cope with dream pain in the avatar dream. I've learned to distance my emotions from my physical body in other ways so I can't say I've had to be taught that. The other day I was thinking about how useful it is to remain detached from our actions in dreaming; keeps the heart rate lower which helps with stabilization. Yet how far is too far, is there a too far? Nirvana might just be a state of complete detachment; nothing. Just thinking out loud here.
Thanks, dude! Yeah, it was great! I wish I could remember more about the individual villains, but just the overall battle was so satisfying.
Thanks, Jade!
Dang, This is intense! Great recall!
Dang! Epic dream story and cool fighting. I like how some of the evil dream characters had powers as well.
Lucid combat does have an attractive quality to it. It's one of my favorite things in the world! And I've definitely awoken with some lingering pain, from dreams. Three examples I can think of, off the top of my head, are: - As a kid, having a dream that my foot was bit by a bear that roamed into my backyard, and waking up with a horrible pain in my foot. - Dreaming that I had a broken leg, and kept walking on it, stubbornly, trying to help avenge some friends in a fight. I then woke up with a horrible charlie horse in my leg. I believe the pain just manifested itself into the dream as the broken leg. - An Avatar dream, where I was being trained to cope with pain, while in the Na'vi body. A burly guy kept repeatedly punching me in the stomach, until I was able to wave off of the pain. The pain persisted for a few minutes after waking, and into the time I was writing my journal entry. It's still likely the mos painful dream I've ever had. You can read it, if you want. http://www.dreamviews.com/dream-gall...anagement.html How about you? Have you had any similar experiences?
Lucid combat does have an attractive quality to it. I'm wondering if you've noticed any lingering consequences from your combat while dreaming. Some have said they've woken up in pain from a dream inflicted wound (which doesn't determine if the dream caused the pain or if the pain caused the dream, but it's interesting to consider).
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