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    Choi's Journey of the Conscious Mind

    Here I write down my attempts and experiences from my nightly experiences (lucid dreams, Obe's and APing)

    It sometime might look like I am trying to sell out my techniques, so I apologize for that. But it's just my way of writing it in order to motivate myself.

    I personally hate "BEST TECHNIQUE THREADS" or technique threads at all for that matter, because I allways seem to put all my confidence and belief in the technique, but when I try it and fail I just blame myself... Instead of learning it my own way and put the confidence and believe in myself.

    You can of course still read about techniques and methods, but just see them as guidelines and not bullet proof science. Believe me it's easy to get into that mindset.
    And by the way, even science can be prooved wrong ;)

    So be crtical while reading this.. I just hope that you learn from my experience the same way I have learned from others like:

    Stephen LaBerge - lucidity.com
    Tim Post - Lucidipedia.com
    DreamWarrior - Wakeupinyourdreams.com
    Michael Raduga - obe4u.com
    Frank Kepple - Astral Pulse
    My friends Fredrik, Tony and Philip
    Thomas Campbell and Bob Monroe - The Monroe Institute
    And all the great members of Dreamviews!

    Enjoy!

    1. WILD Before Sleep Is Possible!

      by , 02-28-2012 at 05:41 PM (Choi's Journey of the Conscious Mind)
      [COLOR="red"]WARNING!

      The technique I will describe now takes effort, and if you fail it might result in insomnia...[/COLOR]

      Ok this might be my last journal entry, but I want to share the method to help you guys succeed.
      And it must be added that this is not a new technique, this is what every WILD guide explains, but this is my version because it took some time to learn it... And I still need to pracctise it.

      I have already told you about this method in an old thread that can be found here:
      [url]http://www.dreamviews.org/f79/my-friends-natural-wild-technique-123506/[/url]

      But I will explain it in a little more detail and add some new things that he have told me and that I learned from.
      First of all I have to tell you that he is not a lucid dreaming pracctioner or anything like that.
      When he was a little kid he invented this method to fall asleep and cure his insomnia!

      Last night I tried his method and I managed to come to the point where I could no longer feel my physical body.
      But I was still aware of my breath, my eyes and my thoughts.
      I started visualizing a random house and walked around in it, and at one point I felt my consciousness switching and suddenly I were there. I was now lucid and was amazed of consciously entering a dream without previous sleep.
      I walked out from the house and the dream ended up like all my lucid dreams seem to end... I lost lucidity while talking to someone. Although I was still aware of the dream so I remembered the whole dream and it was a long vivid dream.
      It felt like more than 30 minutes, but as you all know it's impossible to have vivid REM dreams for more than 15 minutes.
      So I am not sure how to think of that. ( Mind creation? Doesn't matter had sex, I mean time dilation :cheeky: )

      Anyway today I asked my friend Fredrik to tell me about his falling asleep technique again, and this is what he told me:
      Well the goal is to fall asleep, but what I do is that I lay still with closed eyes and focus on my breath and I focus my vision between my eyebrows and keep it there. Then I will feel my body slowly getting more and more relaxed, I will feel the tingeling start from my legs and work it's way up. Then I just keep having this meditative state and I will at some point not be able to feel my body anymore and my mind is calm without thoughts, and the only thing that remains is my breath.
      I sometimes stop right here, because the next step is really scary, but I really want to fall asleep so I have to do it...
      When my only awareness is the breath, I take a deep breath and then gradually slow the breath down and make it smaller and now the scary part. After a while I will no longer feel my breath and it feels like I am going to die!
      But if I just stick with it I know that I am going to fall asleep. Then something strange happens.
      I start to see a bright white light and I will get a sensations of levitating and I just keep floating up and when that sensation stop, I am and up in the clouds and here I just relax as much as I can and I fall asleep, and then I wake up the next morning feeling completely rested.

      I was shocked and asked him "Why the H*LL don't you stay aware so you can lucid dream?!".
      And he answered "Oh I wouldn't want to risk having insomnia after waiting and doing all that, the goal is to fall asleep after all".

      And I was like :eek::panic: GAAAH!!

      I tried to convince him in every way possible, but it was no use he wasn't interested in lucid dreams. :shock:

      Anyway I on the other hand can use this knowledge to my advantage and now you can too :shadewink:

      Just gong to add some tweaks. Because I did this last night, but I wasn't aware of the breath method, he told me about that today.

      I have experienced most of the steps he described, although the eyefocus thing isn't really necessary that's just his anchor and he relax that way. As long as you stay still and stay aware you will still be able to do this, the meditative pure consciousness states comes naturally, you can even think of what ever you want. The problem is just that a wondering mind can easily make you fall asleep unconsciously. I do this by listening to a guided relaxation so that's my anchor :)

      One thing that might be painful to hear is that I timed this and it took about 1 hour to do.
      Although it didn't feel booring at all, I was excited the whole time :)

      The reason to why I will not write down my dreams here anymore is personal. I have realised that they tell too much about a person, even though the dreamer is the only one who can analyse them. So that's one reason.
      The other reason is that they are annoying to write down in the morning :P

      I have also started believing in obe's and astral projection and I know most people are sceptic, but just try this:

      This is just a theory but when I did this technique and realised that I was no longer able to feel my body, I started visualizing and I ended up in a dream. Because I was focusing on my thoughts.

      My friend Fredrik on the other hand, he focused on the (body) and the feeling of breathing and I think that he actually got an out of body experience.

      I am not going to argue about these phenomenons, because frankly that's something that is up to the person who experiencing it to decide. I'm just hoping that this text helped someone :D

      It will take time, but if I some day(night) manage to control the dream and make it last longer and being able to go to Hogwarts or something like that. I might post in this journal about it ;)

      Thanks and bye for now!

      Choi :sleepmeditate2:

      Updated 02-28-2012 at 09:28 PM by 49122

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