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    1. I'm dead- An elegant reception- A seaside restaurant

      by , 02-17-2017 at 07:46 PM
      #1: I was dead. I was looking down @ my partial body body laying in a marsh along a river. I see my legs & feet. It's disturbing. Locals are saying they accidentally killed me. I'm watching all of this unfold. I see a cop handling the investigation. I feel like he has got this & there will be answers. He says she'd been thrown off of the bridge & ended up in a marsh. I rarely see any part of myself in a dream & I don't remember ever looking at myself like this, especially in this context.Meesha Cat woke me up.

      D2: I was w/ my parents & we were @ some kind of reception area. It's circular & you walk down to a row of tables & down again for the next row & down one more time for the bottom row. It reminds me of "The Love Boat" tv show on the cruise ship for some reason, lol. It was really elegant. It was just normal family conversations that I would've had as a child going somewhere w/ my parents but we are all adults here. My mom is worried about what ppl will think & are told not to embarrass her, lol. Thank God she is more relaxed & enjoying life now & not all uptight. Meesha Cat woke me up again.

      D3: I was @ this restaurant by the beach kind of place. It looke like a version of an old clam bake except men were diving in to catch fresh fish w/ some odd looking sieve bucket or something. They were catching things like squid & yucky stuff. No seafood that tastes good like lobster or something. A man sitting at my table was going to get to try his hand at it. He finally gets to go in & I get to come closer. It looks like a cement wall is barely flowing water over it. It was really interesting how they utilized the sea/ocean in such a way to make an entertaining dining experience. Meesha Cat is waking me up a 3rd time tonight. I'm not happy with her.

      I didn't have a lucid tonight but lately I have been picking up speed again with them after my break. I just finished my second journal over this past year since March but most of it looks like gibberish until I put it on here.
    2. My mom in a LIMO, A magic tree, Gypsies herbal meds, Investing money

      by , 02-15-2017 at 08:50 PM
      I've been very busy IRL & had 2 of my grandkids all weekend so I've been rather busy & then I had to sleep a lot Monday & Tuesday because I pushed myself too hard this weekend. But I did have a whole lot of fun! Not much by way of dreams due to my pain meds.

      ***I was living in a cabin in the woods. I'm asleep & think Mike is in the room but instead it's my mom. She said she just dropped by cuz her & my dad were driving through in their RV. I told her I could make her some coffee & I looked into the refrigerator to find something to feed her. I said "hey, there is some beer in here if you want some." I say this half talking to myself & become lucid because Mike & I don't drink alcohol. There wouldn't be beer anywhere we would be staying. I say out loud "we don't drink anymore". I then notice that the fridge is almost bare & the food looks old. Almost in shock I look up on the top shelf & then lean into the fridge because I see there is no "top" of the fridge & I only see the cabinets above it. She tells me she is going into town for food. I'm still contemplating the fridge, kind of in awe. I laugh because I'm thinking, "well isn't this a strange dream!" I realize she is still talking as she leaves & adds "dad is out off doing something" just as I am wondering where he is. I go out the sliding door & I'm on a deck looking out & see a huge tree. I walk down & look at it in wonder. I know it's the magical tree from the book I'm reading. This is so cool!! I then look to the right of the tree & there is a limo. I open the door & my mom is sitting in the back seat behind the drivers side putting her feet up on the back of the passenger seat. I start laughing because I just saw a woman do this in a show I watched & my mom is all slim now like she was when I was a kid. I got woke up by Meesha Cat so I'm disappointed that I didn't get to play w/ the magic tree!

      **I was w/ a group of gypsies. I've been watching a series w/ gypsies & werewolves. I am in a kitchen sorting plants so that we don't eat the poisonous ones. The man in charge gives me a compliment & said "Now that's how people should be." He was talking about me caring about others & not just myself.

      **I was in a school where ppl were turning into dust after they ad found ways to invest money to make money to sustain an income instead of working. This was to free up time to enjoy life. They were sharing in detail how to do this but I couldn't catch all of how to do that. I had come in toward the end of the conversation. The leader & his followers would turn back to dust afterwards. Apparently this happened often here. I walked around the school inside & outside when they appeared out of thin air again. But unfortunately Meesha Cat woke me up.
    3. skating job interview & reality show survivor w/ 5yr old girls

      by , 02-10-2017 at 08:17 PM
      Sunday: I was in my home town I lived in when I was a kid but I was there for a job interview where I had to wear roller skates & work w/ this male friend I know IRL but he also reminded me of (JJ) someone else that I won't mention. I had others there to lean on & to give me good references. But I now had a boss who was flirty when other ppl weren't around. Mostly it was good though as the dream progressed. It was about how I'm okay now & have moved on. Reminding me that I'm a very different person now.

      Wednesday: On some weird reality tv show w/ 5 yr olds. We take a train on the way to a store & I see a familiar scene & mention it. It was a moment of lucidity but it fled after that. We had to go to a toy store & the girls were to pick out things to use to survive but they had to be in this weird Christmas section that only had toys. I remember this same scene from around Christmas time. We went back to these stables & each girl was in a stall. It was pouring rain. They had to make a fire & were using doll legs for logs. This dream was just weird as shit.
    4. Lucid cruise ship dream

      by , 10-09-2016 at 12:11 AM
      I was hanging out w/ Ellen Degeneres on a big cruise ship while she was recording a special episode of her show. (lucid)I realized I was in labor & had a baby that wasn't breathing. A group of passengers went into an auditorium type room & held vigil for the baby. It finally started breathing & I was contemplating a name. I knew I was dreaming when the father of the baby came in & it wasn't my husband about midway through the dream so I spent some time just looking around the ship & at the scene. Lucidity is curious sometimes. The auditorium was from my childhood. It was at a near by college from where I grew up. I saw a play there on a school field trip.

      For the last 2 nights I have taken Huperzine A which is for cognitive support. I can tell my dreams are different & my focus on doing my jigsaw puzzles is sharper. Over the years my pain meds have messed w/ my head at times & I so far am finding this to be as some help.
    5. Competition & a girl named Tess

      by , 09-26-2016 at 03:08 AM
      D1: Non-Lucid: I'm in some odd looking place. It looks like a mash up of a backwoods bar, game room & new age things all in one. It's somewhere in the country side. The ppl there are the cast from the Netflix original Aquarius. I'm supposed to be going to some kind of bar for some reason but instead I'm in some sort of competition. Another team went first. They drive out in a jeep & launch it into the air somehow. Then they had to grab a bird out of the air. Next they shot a target & a parachute was released & they have to land in a mock house. While waiting for our turn I got woke up by my wbtb alarm.

      D2: Non-Lucid: There was a computer with something displayed on the screen. It was for sale for $279 & I was buying it for Tess. Everything was foggy.

      And I've never had a random name like this in my dreams. I don't know a Tess unless you count a girl from when I was a kid named Tessa but it wasn't her for sure. I think the name is significant but for the life of me I don't know why.
    6. Hotels again & weird little people dreams

      by , 09-16-2016 at 07:49 PM
      Yesterday: Non-lucid- My parents, siblings & kids were with me. We were on vacation. We had checked into a really nice hotel. There were all of these cheerleaders running around because of some local sporting event. My kids were being asses & bitching that they wanted to stay at a different place that they had stayed before. My day was paying so we stayed & it was nicer than the place they wanted to go anyway. Like really nice. The place was over booked & a family was staying at a house beside the hotel. I went out side & walked over there to be nosy. I walked up onto the front porch. These people were really religious & had all of these kids. Kind of like the 19 kids & counting tv show. The father had made some calligraphy light art. It looked like a neon budweiser light or something. I told his wife that he was really talented. But she just smiled. Her kids were artistic as well. The next day everyone was flooding out of the building at once & suddenly everywhere looked like a college campus. Then my alarm went off.

      Today non-lucid:
      All of my dreams were fragments of little people & just plain weird shit.
      This is my 3rd day of having a fever. Yesterday I was so sick but had to go grocery shopping & was wiped out so bad I couldn't type much cuz reading was making me dizzy. Still burning up today but had to go to my grandson's award event. Now I think I'll go pass out after I make my rounds on here.
    7. Barbara Jean from "Reba" tv show

      by , 09-08-2016 at 11:40 PM
      I had this weird dream where I moved into a new house & Barbara Jean was there from the tv show "Reba" was there too. She was my neighbor & she didn't act all goofy like on that show.

      Then I woke up & thought, damn it I didn't become lucid to do the TOTM! While getting ready for today I was sitting on my bed watching Meesha Cat. She was looking at something & then tried to bat at it. Her eyes went wild & big & she froze. Then she tore out of the room like the house was on fire & left a puddle of pee on my bed... Just FYI, she isn't experiencing some sick cat problem, she is fine. But today I told Mike I thought she has being Dioji. My dog Dioji died in 2008 in a freak pool accident when it was being drained. He was chasing the little puppies & it just happened. I was a mess mourning for 2 yrs over my dog. He was there for me through my last surgery & was glued to me. He was so attached to me that when I would lay down during the day, he would lay next to me, kick me & keep tapping my hand until I held his paw like we were holding hands while we slept. He did this a lot! Very smart dog. After his death both me & my husband have seen him in our house at various times & I saw him just the other day right here in my room where he normally appears. We both think Meesha sees him but just doesn't know how to react to him. He loved our cat Xan & would only try to play w/ another family pet. But that now would explain why she is peeing on my bed. Mystery solved. Yet I still think she must have a bladder problem of some kind though. When she goes for her checked up I'll see what the vet thinks. Even then there isn't a lot u can do for that issue for a cat, unless I hit the lottery in the near future, lol.
    8. Yesterday & Today. Reoccurring House & Time fluctuation

      by , 09-07-2016 at 06:07 PM
      9/6 D1: As I was walking all through this dream I was walking in & out of decades & centuries! It was so odd. I was living in a home w/ other women we were always discussing men & women like things. We went to a store where I met a man. The store started out as a wal-mart/k-mart like store but then turned into a very old time store. Someone had stolen something & I went outside but now it was me walking out of a house onto the porch of a house that had a crazy Victorian like look & feel to it! I was still looking for the culprit but as I walked I kept walking in & out of time. Like whatever was there previously was where I was walking. As if many things had been built in the same place over the yrs. The landscape stayed the same. Then things were on fire & I saw a man on fire & melt. It was terrifying.

      9/6 D2: I was w/ the same man from before & my parents were saying they were coming to get me. After I had told my parents about the previously mentioned store/house & being in & out of time they said they thought they should come get me. They probably thought I was losing it. They are atheist's & would never understand this concept. I was wanting to spend more time w/ the man I was with but the dream faded as Meesha Cat woke me up.

      9/6 D3 & D4: Took a nap. Both were nightmares that I just couldn't hold on to because they were all jumpy & w/ my Veritgo it just made me dizzy trying to think about it. Let alone write it down.

      Today: D1: I was in this big Victorian house. I've been in this house before in past dreams but it's been yrs since I've seen it. Friends I used to have were there & I wanted to buy the house. I was showing Mike the house. I spent an immense amount of time just walking through this enormous house because it was so familiar to me. It was greatly detailed. Light fixtures, books, bookcases, doorways ect.

      I mention ppl that used to be my friends & by used to be I mean just that. I used to do drugs w/ them in my twenties & got the hell away from them. They were even to this day toxic people.... The house I mentioned could be a past life thing. It was amazing! I could've walked through it all day long!

      Today D2: I was in this Dollar Store. I was trying to buy things early for Christmas but as I would pick up a few things & throw them in the basket, I'd look back & the other things I wanted would be gone. Then things from my basket were missing. This process repeated over & over & over.

      All Non-lucids
    9. Reoccurring Breaking Teeth Dream (Forgot to add to today's journal)

      by , 08-31-2016 at 02:02 AM
      I thought I was awake but I wasn't. It was a False Awakening...I had a dream that I was just sitting here in bed eating & watching tv & one of my teeth broke halfway off & I freaked out & ran to the bathroom to look in the mirror & saw that one of my teeth had broken in half. I was freaking out & went back into my room. I thought this really happened in the end & made me have some serious anxiety.

      I went back & made this journal entry because I forgot & it's my most serious reoccurring dream & reoccurring false awakening. I always think I'm awake when this happens & I wake up freaking out. It sometimes makes me have multiple false awakenings. It's a great fear I have because I have dentures on the top & fear the day I will need them on the bottom.... I don't mind talking about it.... I had crooked teeth as a child which I knew would lead to problems later in life & also had a heat stroke at a girl scout retreat along w/ some other girls which made me prone to having nausea. Now I have to be careful in the heat. Hence my anxiousness of my A/C not working right this summer. Then there was my Hyperemesis during my pregnancies I was constantly in the hospital puking up blood which ate at my teeth & stomach. Any puking scenario scares the hell out of me, where my teeth are concerned. And the final nail in the coffin was when I became a meth addict in my 20's..... Anyway, this was important for me as a person to add to my journal.
    10. Hanging w/ Ellen Degeneres at The Peoples Choice Awards Show

      by , 08-30-2016 at 10:02 PM
      D1: I am hanging out w/ Ellen Degeneres & we are getting ready for The Peoples : Choice Awards Show. We are good friends. We gone down w/ Mike & are scoping out our seats. I tell him she has some things to do & I have to go get her a gift. He's irritated that we are leaving him there alone. Ellen says "Fuck It", "lets just go." We see Melissa McCarthy & say hi, cuz we are all good buds ya know. We went shopping & picked up things & ran into other people. When we got back Mike was even more pissed & saying, "See, I knew this would happen if you left!" He couldn't save the seats. I told him not to freak out & that Ellen can get us seats. So we leave him there, lol. I would never normally leave him but it's Ellen & we have to get sat down before things start. We finally find seats but I can see Mike & he's fuming!

      Meesha Cat started bugging me & I batted her away but only had time to phase into a frag.

      D2: I was still w/ Ellen & Mike & now we are at some really weird tacky ass funeral outside.

      I had a third but just couldn't hold on to it. My A/c seems better today but my nose is still running from allergies. But I'll take the dreams I got because they were fun. Ellen is a common DC for me, also so is Melissa McCarthy.
    11. Spellbee Comp Night 11

      by , 08-11-2016 at 02:53 AM
      1 point is all I got. I'm really pissed off!

      Three Step Goals:
      1.Advanced Flying
      2.Element Manipulation
      3.Mass Telekinesis

      New Dream goal: Go to the Moon
      Old Dream goal: Go back to Venice

      D1: I was playing in the game survivor. There were 3 great big ships w/
      3 teams. One for each ship. But I wasn't sure what they were yhaet who had
      what. But we were told by Jeff Probst the host that there could be
      consequences for swapping with other teams. Apparently someone already had
      tried but magically they weren't allowed too. It was a little fuzzy about
      how this occurred...

      My daughter called in real life & I tried to ignore the phone.

      D2: half lucid. I phased/chained into my second dream which was becoming lucid right
      after I noticed the ships were now all three small boats.
      I now decided
      to give the ships the advantages I wanted. I gave my team plenty of
      extra food. Another had fishing gear. And the third had survival gear. I
      know they could've been better but I was trying to just get to the tasks.

      I was making a plan that I would put Nebulus & Dream Cafe on the second boat & Sivason on
      the third so I could play against them. I was also contemplating my flying
      to the moon & my mass telekinesis. But as soon as I got Nebulus pictured in
      his blue t-shirt emblazoned with his real name idiot tag it was game over.

      My daughter had come into my bedroom in real life via my dumb ass son. I'm
      so pissed off I can't even express. She got a job & needed me to watch
      her kids from now until school starts from 6am-5pm. So basically I may be
      fucked as far as the comp goes. We'll see. My plan is to try & recreate
      this scenario because it was a really good set up for the way I wanted this
      part of the comp to go. I'm literally in tears.

      Yes Neb, I had you finally pictured for like 30 seconds before my daughter
      blew my dream to shit!

      Side Notes-Purple
      Competition Notes-Teal
    12. Spellbee Comp Night 8

      by , 08-07-2016 at 11:32 PM
      10 pts- first wild of the night
      10 pts- first dild
      10 pts- 2 subsequent dilds
      2 pts- wbtb
      2 pts- chaining
      5 pts- Ask for advice
      2 pts- chain a lucid
      1 pt- reality check/stablization
      2 pts- interact with dream character
      5 pts- Use an electonic device (Toll booth/debit card machine,
      but had to end up using cash)
      5 pts- Super Strength (I am pulling myself up along the ledges of each freeway)
      5 pts- Gain Invulnerability (Jumped from building onto freeway)
      5 pts- Summoned money for toll booth
      5- DC Manipulation / Mind Control
      5 pts- Unspecified dream control (super jumping capabilities)
      5 pts- Super fast speed
      10 pts- Advanced flying
      20 pts- climb side of building like spiderman (scaled building after freeways)(before midnight)
      5 pts- Advanced summoning- 10 pts (summoned a man in front of me)
      10 pts- Time control (I stop time to look at the man I summoned)
      10 pts- Unsummoning/Banishing (I banished him from my sight)
      10 pts- Full transformation (I'm not me anymore, I'm something made of angry
      & hurt energy!
      Night total= 144 pts

      Your welcome team, I got my A/C fixed. I can sleep better now!

      Three Step Goals:
      1.Advanced Flying
      2.Element Manipulation
      3.Mass Telekinesis

      New Dream goal: Go to the moon
      Old Dream goal: Go to my dream house

      D1:Non-lucid: I was at a carnival but not a traditional carnival. It was pretty
      abstract & nothing eventful of importance.

      Did a wbtb. Got my first wild. And so the chaining begins! I had an
      exceptional night due in part to my damn a/c being finally back on. Amen.

      D2: wild from the start. Full blown lucids from here on so I don't have to
      repeat it. I was with my husband and we were out walking around. I realized I
      was dreaming when we saw a skunk & Freeways & buildings were everywhere. I did
      a reality check & fucked w/ my husband a little because I think this may be my
      first comp w/ him so presently in a lucid dream. I started super jumping up these
      freeways & he told me to stop, that I couldn't do that because it was dangerous.
      This was amazingly comical because I knew I was dreaming & he was just a character
      so he was really freaked out, lol. I laughed a lot because he couldn't do these
      crazy things I could but he managed to follow me for the most part by way of these
      strange hills & what looked like spill ways (I'm not real sure what they are called)
      they are those long concrete things under overpasses & freeways). They were laying
      all weird & he mananged pretty well. Anyway, I went up really fast, making impossible
      jumps up from freeway to freeway ledges & using super human strength with my hands to
      go across them (thank you american ninja warrior for this helpful idea, lol) as they
      were getting higher & higher & over & over.
      It was really exhillerating! I've never had a
      dream quite like this one. So I was gratful I had studied at this point just for
      this moment. I scaled a building like spider man which was cool but I lost my husband
      in all of this. I then chained into the next dream.

      D3: Lucid- Mike was back with me & we were driving through this city that looked like ours
      merged w/ the big kind of city I had just left behind in the last dream. There was a
      woman in a car w/ 2 kids w/ no seat belts on & she was obviously fleeing someone. Mike
      wouldn't follow her to help her like I wanted. We were stopped at a parking garage/toll
      booth. I got mad & told him I was getting out. He was basically hindering my chances
      of completing more tasks in my opinion. I have a way of wanting to keep my moral fiber
      even in my lucid dreams. Sorry people but that's just how I roll. He was yelling at me
      and I told him to give me money. I first tried to operate the debit part of the machine
      for using an electronic device for points. It didn't work so I summoned money from my
      pocket to use instead. He finally gave me money after that because I wanted more to
      help the woman with for diapers etc. Hence i finally got the money due to dc manipulation/
      mind control because he's fucking stubborn. He was still yelling as I ran away. I ran
      superfast around all of these damn buildings that I eventually left the ground for super
      speed flying which is much easier. But hell looking back I got some major ass points
      for that! Fuck yes! Anyway I landed on a street corner which is where I started to
      transition/chain into my 4th & final dream.

      D4: Lucid- So now I'm on this street corner where I find the black lady who is talking
      to people about the woman I saw in the car w/ the kids in her car basically fleeing
      for her life. So I start asking her about the man she is referring to that she is fleeing
      from. He is someone I know but haven't seen in a long time. I'm asking her a shit load
      of questions about him now because it's all really weird. He just seemed to fall off
      the face of the earth in my real life but I'm pretty sure he moved away closer to one
      of his children. I'm asking advice which are points, yeah. She tells me the woman in
      the car has his 2 kids & they are fighting but she's in such a tizzy she's not sure
      of the details. I'm overwhelmed by the man being mentioned so I summon him to appear
      in front of me. I freeze time & him to look at him. I'm very angry with him so I just
      hold him there. Then I banish him from my sight. Then I'm not even me anymore. It was a full
      transformation. My anger turned me into some kind of
      angry energy & hurt. I can't describe this. I've never done this or felt this before.

      Side Notes-Purple
      Competition Notes-Teal
    13. SpellBee Comp my first night

      by , 08-01-2016 at 12:04 AM
      SpellBee Comp my first night of trying.

      I was in what appeared to be a group home setting. One of the
      male staff was taking a special interest in me, in an intimate
      He kept flirting with me. I became lucid due to the fact
      that this raised a moral flag to me & also due in fact that I was
      in a home as a child & there was a sense of familiarity of a rehab
      I was in multiple times as an adult in my 20's.

      I woke up & kept my eyes mostly closed to go pee. And laid back
      in bed to try & continue this dream as a WBTB method & WILD.

      I fell right back into the dream. Unfortunatley the content was
      too overwhelming for me to conciously start preforming the task
      of the competition yet my dream continued from the get go fully lucid!

      Completely lucid from the start now. I am realizing that the
      other staff & young women living here are taking notice to this
      situation that's unfolding. I look around & am no longer thinking
      this is a group home. It's more of a rehab which in my actual
      experiences is close to the same thing yet on an adult level. But
      of course my reciprocating actions by flirting back & feeling
      much affection towards this man is conforting & mutual from a
      sexual view... I am in my bed & there are other women, not girls
      around me in their beds but we are all watching tv but I'm not
      paying attention to it, only that I notice it's a movie & the
      lights are low. The bedroom scenerio is bothering me so I change
      it to a living room setting which has sectional couches. This
      wasn't a hard reach for me because I had a point of reference
      from when I was in a similar setting in a rehab minus this
      particular man. (I'll explain later) I am cuddling with him & am
      enjoying the intimacy. We pull the covers over our head & we can
      see the light through it from the big tv & can hear others
      wispering. I feel I know him very well. I lay my head on his chest
      & I can feel he is getting an erection & I'm also feeling aroused.
      I realize why I feel like this. He's my husband. My real life
      husband. I decide I need to wake up now because he may still be
      in our bed & I need to be in the waking world.

      This dream has representation's of things merged into this weird
      dream. For one, I was in a group home when I was a teenager, two,
      I was in a rehab in my twenties multiple times. One of those
      times like other times I also entered on the domestic violence
      side & actually did have an affair with a male staff member. I
      was an adult at that time. And the reason my husband is represented
      like this is because in December I had a hysterectomy which made
      it difficult for us to start having sex until right before my
      son came back for the summer from college. Due to him being here
      we haven't been able to be intimate so obviously I'm missing my
      husband & can't wait for my son to go back for his 5th yr of

      SpellBee Comp Points: (If I get anything wrong plz feel free mods
      to correct me.)

      1/2 pt: 1/2 non-lucid fragment
      10pts: First wild of the night
      2 pts: WBTB
      2 pts: Interact with a DC
      10 pts: Advanced Object changing (beds to couches)
      Total: 22 1/2

      (I changed a whole room so if there is a point system number for
      that that I have overlooked, plz someone let me know. I wasn't
      sure if it would count as full transformation.)

      Side Notes-Purple
      Astral Projection/AP-Brown
      Competition Notes-Teal

      Updated 08-01-2016 at 10:16 PM by 90317 (Need to copy to paste for contest)

      dream fragment , side notes , lucid , non-lucid
    14. Restless Night

      by , 07-31-2016 at 02:38 AM
      I had the worst night of non-lucid dreams but I lost them because our new A/C is acting up & I slept like shit in my living room. Mike had to go to the doctor first thing in the morning & it threw off all of my dream recall. Sigh.
    15. Extreme WBTB technique with Lucid- Lucid Teacher

      by , 07-19-2016 at 10:25 PM
      I tried an extreme WBTB & I won't try it again because of the unstable environment. Also I dropped my regular pain med dosage for this which actually was okay. I set my alarm for every 45 minutes for 8 hrs. Bad idea, so don't do it. I had many dreams that started but didn't have the physical time to form them properly.

      I was in a place for Psychic abilities. I was teaching lucid dreaming classes & it was really fun. I became lucid almost immediately but when I became lucid the stability was way off. I felt like if you were drunk & lost all of your balance or when you have vertigo from your inner ear being off balanced. Unfortunately I was woke up by my method & had no more time to try to stabilize the dream. Yet the dream itself felt rather long.

      Side Notes-Purple
      Astral Projection/AP-Brown
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