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      Dream control, but not lucid

      Has anyone else has experience they can control dreams, but they aren't aware they are dreaming? basically I can do something like, "this is gonna happen" and it happens or "I'll change this into that" and it changes, but still you aren't aware you are dreaming, but it feels like you are rewriting the dream to your liking.
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      We are always controlling our dreams, even if we aren't conscious of it. After all, if we aren't controlling our dreams, who or what is?
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      Dolphin nailed this already, but yes, it is possible to consciously control your dreams without being lucid. This is because, as Dolphin noted, some part of your mind is always overseeing your dreams, so some part of you is indeed able to rewrite your dream as, say, your expectations change on the fly.
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      Yes, you can control your dream and not be lucid, as Dolphin suggested, but only to some extent.
      Because lucidity is not complete unless you can control your self, and not just the dream elements

      So, you can have the sense that you are controlling your dream, but still not be able to control yourself and you are part of the dream too, so it's not perfect control is it ?

      For instance, if you are truly lucid you know that you dont need to control the dream, but you can.
      Are you able to stop controlling the dream ? ( which is paradoxically the most advanced form of control )

      The option not to control, not to do anything, entails a great degree of lucidity, because controlling can be kind of automatic and mindless too.

      Lucidity also means being free to choose what to do, without any sense of urgency, and then one is the perfect boss, free from any debts to enslaving habits

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      I was actually doing this a couple nights ago before I actually realized I was lucid. I drove over a mountain and realized "oh crap I better do something to slow down my fall" so I imagined a balloon inflating on my car. It worked and slowed my descent

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      Hey... I believe in our ability to control our dreams but many times I can't understand my dreams. When this is happening I always check the best dreambook

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      I'm flying and using all of my lucid super powers in most of my dreams even when I don't explicitly think about the fact that I'm dreaming.

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      Yup. I frequently have vivid dreams in which I learn to fly. Not lucid, just having the ability to fly. Usually, the dream goes on a while, then I wake up and am severely disappointed that I haven't brought the skill back to waking life with me. That's actually one of the reasons I have decided to get more serious about lucid dreaming, so I can have that experience more regularly and with more control.

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      Walking in your dream is a form of dream control.

      So yes. I imagine most everyone regularly exerts control over their dreams...even if they lack that awareness.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Mzzkc View Post
      Walking in your dream is a form of dream control.

      So yes. I imagine most everyone regularly exerts control over their dreams...even if they lack that awareness.
      I used to think this as well, as can be seen on my previous post.

      However, I realized that when people are referring to dream control, they are actually referring to the accuracy of their control over the dream. Not everybody can control dreams with the accuracy they desire. Dreams come from the mind, therefore controlling dreams involves controlling the mind. Controlling the mind with accuracy involves keeping it from wandering. Keeping the mind from wandering is easier for some than it is for others.
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      And while I recognize that point, I would still argue that most dreamers have mastered walking in their dreams, and I would challenge those dreamers to realize and embrace the idea that they are already capable of masterful, accurate dream control as indicated by their ability to walk anywhere they please. Because when you get right down to it, walking is in the same category as flying, teleportation, or really any sort of control which results in a change in scenery. It's just less flashy, so no one pays it any mind for some reason.

      To those who have mastered walking, but are having difficulty elsewhere, start by asking yourself, "Why is it so easy to walk in dreams?" and maybe some deeper understanding will strike you. If not there are definitely some great, old guides floating around this site which might spark some inspiration. =)
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      try using the false awakening method this is how I

      started interpreting my lucid dream I would see how many time I would lay down in waking life then multiply that on how many

      times I've woken in a dream so just imagine waking up and by that time you be lucid dreaming in no time

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      I've found that some lucid dream techniques are really useful for dream control even if lucidity is not achieved. For example when I try to start a dream with WILD I will often think about the dream I want to have, or a previous dream I want to continue, and usually I will be able to start the dream I wanted but I am not lucid when I enter the dream. To me it seems like dream control is a lot easier than lucid dreaming, but I suppose that is probably different for everyone.

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