Well, in some ways you are wrong, and some you are right. It's just a fairly hard thing to realise the difference. I thought the same as you until I realised I was really wrong. |
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Rip 'Em Off
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Leave the poor saps alone
Excellent post and I can see your point. The starving Africans analogy was spot on. I can admit that perhaps using Darwin's theory and applying it to the rules of finance may have been a bit overzealous of me. While writing my post, I wasn't thinking about those who lacked the educational benefits that people from industrialized countries had available to them. |
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Last edited by Jeff777; 03-05-2011 at 04:37 AM.
Well, in some ways you are wrong, and some you are right. It's just a fairly hard thing to realise the difference. I thought the same as you until I realised I was really wrong. |
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Last edited by tommo; 03-05-2011 at 05:29 AM.
Thanks. Great post. The only thing I have some doubts about is your statement below.. |
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Ummm, I think you ignored the key part of that statement. |
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And why wouldn't studying to become incredibly smart alter your genes in a way that it would have an impact on your child's IQ? Take addiction for example. Addiction is something that's largely hereditary, so I'm not seeing why this would be something that's out of the realm of possibility. |
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Why not? Because that's simply not how genetics works. That may not sound like a very satisfying answer, but it's a fact. The idea that acquired traits can be passed on through heredity is called Lamarckism. Lamarckism is a very old idea which we now know to be manifestly and unambiguously Wrong with a capital W. |
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Yep that's correct. It's only hereditary because whatever mechanisms which cause someone to seek out dopamine releasing drugs (we assume lower levels of dopamine, but that's really a weak theory atm) are sometimes passed on to their kids. Genes cause this, not the act of taking drugs. |
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I think it's great. Natural selection at work. |
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Abraxas
Originally Posted by OldSparta
What you all are ignoring though is that if someone with the genes that would predispose them to an average intelligence studies their ass off and develops an above average intelligence, they will be much more likely to pass on their work ethic to their children, thus "passing it on to future generations". I don't know if there is a word for "meme heredity" but it is just as important as "gene heredity". Not to mention that they could have a "study their ass off" set of genetic influences. |
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Art
The ability to happily respond to any adversity is the divine.
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Meme transmission can go horizontally just as easily as vertically and assuming vertical transmission overlooks the fact that an overbearing parent can very easily turn their children off to an idea. |
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Last edited by PhilosopherStoned; 03-06-2011 at 10:43 PM.
Previously PhilosopherStoned
You are ignorant of another factor; people being sold ideas with products. Ideas that make or break a product. |
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You merely have to change your point of view slightly, and then that glass will sparkle when it reflects the light.
Well these ideas are subjective to each individual. Let us say I buy an umbrella. Now an umbrella is commonly bought to prevent rain from soaking an individual but let us say I am a novice of fencing and I buy this umbrella because I want to practice my swordplay on the street without arousing attention by using an actual sword. What people buy and how they use a product is dependent solely on that individual so its not so much that I am ignorant of that factor, its just that there is no way to account for it unless asked by the individual buying it. It's called use-value. |
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Last edited by Laughing Man; 06-02-2011 at 12:35 PM.
'What is war?...In a short sentence it may be summed up to be the combination and concentration of all the horrors, atrocities, crimes, and sufferings of which human nature on this globe is capable' - John Bright
While I do sympathize with the New Age Movement in some ways, I think they should know when they are being thrown for a loop, since they have the ability to realize it (or SHOULD, but apparently some don't.) Sure, it's kinda shady to do it, but exploitation of ignorance occurs everywhere in advertising. "Now with Mangosteen!" or "Gluten-Free!" magic claims. "Only available for a limited time!" bandwagon, and other fun phrases that make people think they "need" it. if he says it's based off of a Chinese technique and they believe him, that's their own fault. They live in an information-rich society and should be able to research this themselves. |
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