Thread: IQ Tests

Originally Posted by cmind

Do you have Asperger's or something? Seriously.

Do you have a job or something? Seriously?

Xei, cmind. You guys should just settle this with a good ole fashioned public debate to once and for all prove who has the bigger uh brain. The loser shall be banished forevermore from this forum. Just kidding but seriously this shit gets kinda old.

I didn't even do anything. cmind just spontaneously transformed into assbot again.

Off topic. Is that debate sub-forum idea still going ahead or has everyone forgot about it?

Originally Posted by Xei

I didn't even do anything. cmind just spontaneously transformed into assbot again.

What I meant by "the shit getting old" was that fly buzzing in your ear. He really enjoys trolling you.

Originally Posted by Heavy Sleeper

Off topic. Is that debate sub-forum idea still going ahead or has everyone forgot about it?

Ya thats what I was alluding to. I hope they actually go through with it, it would be very fun.

Originally Posted by stormcrow

Ya thats what I was alluding to. I hope they actually go through with it, it would be very fun.

Agreed.

Originally Posted by cmind

Do you have Asperger's or something? Seriously.

Well you attacked his pride by saying that, so obviously he wasn't going to buy you a bunch of flowers and give you a hug...

Originally Posted by cmind

A facepalm?! Oh, I can see it now!
I've always thought it was an ass.

Look, I'm not intelligence at all!

Yeah it wouldn't take much work to get that forum online, I think the general format was pretty much agreed. Although it wouldn't do much good for threads like these which are basically just a melting pot of ideas, not a debate.

Originally Posted by Pandabear

A facepalm?! Oh, I can see it now!
I've always thought it was an ass.

Look, I'm not intelligence at all!

Wow, and people called me an idiot for thinking it was a penis....

Originally Posted by tommo

Wow, and people called me an idiot for thinking it was a penis....

All I can see now is a penis.
THANKS.

Originally Posted by tommo

Wow, and people called me an idiot for thinking it was a penis....

Watch your tongue! That penis is the captain of the USS Enterprise!

Intelligence study is very odd field, since the time of Binet there has been a lot of talk about what should be calculated into it and what should not. There are many definitions.

Some of widely accepted definitions of intelligence :
- An intelligent person adapts into new situations and copes with its requirements.
- An intelligent person is able to use well his knowledge.
- An intelligent person can solve problems and act rationally.
- An intelligent person is able to benefit from teaching better than less intelligent.
- An intelligent perosn is able to think abstractly and use abstracts.

When thinking of the history of the intelligence study, it has often been mixed with giftedness. Intelligence is, however, a part of it. In the very first studies of intelligence the definitions were heavy with mathematical and linquistic skills, logical deduction and intellectual skill. In these past decades, however, intelligence has been seen as more relative and even more broader concept. In addition of cognitive abilities, it is seen that intelligence includes different kinds of practical abilities and social abilities. The definition of intelligence is affected by culture and life circumstances, in different cultures you'll need different kind of intelligent behavior. As intelligence surfaces itself in different shapes : actions, the quality of life, learning etc. , one definition cannot be applied into all situations, unless we stick with the intelligence is adaptation.

IQ tests are a way to test intelligence, but it is only a narrow edge of it. However, IQ tests serve their purpose as they are a way to gather information from people and compare it to each other. It is, by no means, always reliable or accurate. As Xei said, many factors that contribute to intelligence are heritable. The neurofysiological approach of intelligence is actually very interesting. With our modern equipment we are able to see the actual inheretance in the cells and study intelligence as learning process. We are able to actually see how neural networks and structures change when something new is learned. Thus we can see that "an intelligent" nervous system is a fast and efficent information handler. If you add enviroment to this, we can see how an enviroment that is full of different stimulus affect to the system and boosts and hastens the capability to learn and adapt new things.

Also, I think social side must be considered as well. Motivation and support is priceless when we are talking about untapping dormant capabilities. In a social enviroment where a person is supported and encouraged to use his talents the intelligence can be nurtured. If social enviroment is negative and uninviting the person might never understand how intelligent he actually is or loses that early life chance to develope it. Or motivation to do so. When speaking of social aspects, emotional intelligence is worth of mentioning. While they both has some kind of correlation, it is surprisingly often the case that someone who is otherwise very intelligent has very weak in his social relationship. Personally, I think emotional intelligence is crucial aspect that should not be negleted.

I like the theory that Raymond Cattell brought. He created the concepts of fluid intelligence and chrystallized intelligence. Fluid intelligence is the ability to see factual connections, solve problems, the creative, flexible intellect. It is only partly dependable on culture or knowledge. When you live long and solve lot of problems, you start to need less and less this fluid intelligence, since you usually always find a familiar and established solution. So this chrystallized intelligence is more bound to culture. It is intelligence that is habitual, stays for same for very long time ( vocabularly, mathematics, common knowledge ). Fluid intelligence, however, is on its peak when you are approx. 15-25.

I won't post more now. I see, if this encourages any new conversation.

We should start doing statistical analysis on the amount of time it takes for each thread to turn into a nonsensical argument. Multiple factors can be analyzed, including who participates in said threads, what sub-forums they are in, and how "relevant" each argument is!

Anyone? Anyone?

Every post by Xei reduces the non-argument lifetime of the thread by half.

Originally Posted by ThePreserver

We should start doing statistical analysis on the amount of time it takes for each thread to turn into a nonsensical argument.

Originally Posted by Heavy Sleeper

HOW dare you disagree with me. We should absolutely do it. HANDS DOWN. I will not back down until you do.

Originally Posted by ThePreserver

HOW dare you disagree with me. We should absolutely do it. HANDS DOWN. I will not back down until you do.

No surrender!

Originally Posted by cmind

Every post by Xei reduces the non-argument lifetime of the thread by half.

Well at least that means he never reduces it to a completely nonsensical argument. Like you....

Originally Posted by tommo

Well at least that means he never reduces it to a completely nonsensical argument. Like you....

I have a high IQ so it obviously doesn't prove anything.

The only real way to rate a man's intelligence is by measuring his ability to trick a female into sleeping with him. Just like the only way to test a woman's intelligence is by measuring her ability to trick a male into marrying her.

Originally Posted by Omnis Dei

I have a high IQ so it obviously doesn't prove anything.

The only real way to rate a man's intelligence is by measuring his ability to trick a female into sleeping with him. Just like the only way to test a woman's intelligence is by measuring her ability to trick a male into marrying her.

Doesn't measure anything if the woman is stupid. You wouldn't even believe the amount of times I've heard or read girls saying "Ohhhhhhh MY GOD, that guy is SOOO HOTTT!!!!!"
Me: "Why?"
"Coz!.... Look at that Tradie outfit!!!!!!!!"

Me:"................."

I doubt the guys are smart enough to realise girls will think they're hot if they become a tradie.

Originally Posted by Xei

I have always thought that people vastly underestimate their intelligence.

Actually, this only tends to happen with more intelligent people. I can only make guesses as to the people you associate with, and who you're basing this on, but without further information I'm not surprised you've come to this conclusion.

Certainly I've found in my own experience that the less intelligent people I know tend to believe themselves to be more rational and intelligent than they are.

Originally Posted by tommo

Doesn't measure anything if the woman is stupid. You wouldn't even believe the amount of times I've heard or read girls saying "Ohhhhhhh MY GOD, that guy is SOOO HOTTT!!!!!"
Me: "Why?"
"Coz!.... Look at that Tradie outfit!!!!!!!!"

Me:"................."

I doubt the guys are smart enough to realise girls will think they're hot if they become a tradie.

I didn't say it was a perfect measurement. Just the only real measurement.