Thread: Unrest in Iraq, is anyone surprised?

You seem like a reasonably intelligent person. But you have been fed lies and been brainwashed.
That is all. I'm not gonna try to change your mind though. Just saying.

Of course war is horrible, which is why we shouldn't be starting wars all across the world. The US is a great destabilizing force in the world. We killed democratically elected leaders and install dictatorships, which often grow out of control and then we have to come in and kill them, and in the process thousands of innocent people are killed by our bombs.

You can't have peace through the use of force. If we want peace we need to put the weapons down and talk with each other.

Originally Posted by tommo

You seem like a reasonably intelligent person. But you have been fed lies and been brainwashed.
That is all. I'm not gonna try to change your mind though. Just saying.

All that I was trying to say is that it is not the soldiers fault. It is the people who are in charge. Yeah, I do not completely agree with most of the decisions past Presidents have made. What exactly was I "brainwashed" about. All that I was saying is that you should stop blaming the soldiers and blame the people in charge...

Originally Posted by MarineRecon

All that I was trying to say is that it is not the soldiers fault. It is the people who are in charge. Yeah, I do not completely agree with most of the decisions past Presidents have made. What exactly was I "brainwashed" about.

Originally Posted by Alric

You can't have peace through the use of force. If we want peace we need to put the weapons down and talk with each other.

This. And the fact that Iraq somehow hurt the U.S.

But mostly what Alric said. You think you have helped people, and they may think that too. But you can never solve problems with war.

It is also the soldiers fault. You can't pass the blame on to the people in charge. If there were no soldiers, whatever they were giving orders to do would not be done.

Originally Posted by MarineRecon

All that I was trying to say is that it is not the soldiers fault. It is the people who are in charge. Yeah, I do not completely agree with most of the decisions past Presidents have made. What exactly was I "brainwashed" about. All that I was saying is that you should stop blaming the soldiers and blame the people in charge...

Why do you keep using this defence when it's clearly not true. Like I said, it is an obvious moral imperative to not act based on arbitrary edicts but rather act according to your own morality. It's for this reason we don't accept that the Nazis running the concentration camps were engaged in acceptable moral practice because they were 'just taking orders'. Or do you think they were acting morally? Come on, you're supposed to learn as a child to take responsibility for your own actions.