Thread: Unrest in Iraq, is anyone surprised?

Originally Posted by Caprisun

They are human beings, of course they can think beyond orders. You know that, I know that, MarineRecon knows that. So cut to the chase, what point are you trying to make? When he says he's only following orders he obviously means legal orders.

This is the problem with you getting involved in a discussion that I told you that you had no place in. Now you say ridiculous things and are a mouthpiece of someone without actually reading what they are saying.

Originally Posted by MarineRecon

A tool that is used by the government. If you join the Military then you do what your told. We're pawns.

Originally Posted by MarineRecon

In the Military people don't really want your opinion. You do what you're told and thats it.

Originally Posted by MarineRecon

Its not the soldiers decision on what they do. We're tools.

Originally Posted by MarineRecon

It may be a dumb reason but its not our choice to say so. We do what we are commanded.

Originally Posted by MarineRecon

Soldiers are basically an extension. They are a tool and nothing else. Obama asks us to do something, we do it. No questions asked. I agree, everything we do may not be moral, but if it has been commanded then it is our job to get it done.

I'll say it again, this discussion I am having with MarineRecon has nothing to do with you. It has everything to do with an attempt to pass the blame of someone's actions as a free willed agent onto those above them who "command" them to carry out orders. This is what MarineRecon is currently doing.

So..shut up...

Originally Posted by Caprisun

That's not a contract, it's a wikipedia page. I can see you won't be satisfied until I hold a contract in front of your face, so Im just gonna leave you unsatisfied. If federal courts ruled that it was in there, it's in there. It might not even explicitly use the term "stop-loss." Im not about to waste my time.

I am showing you the contract. That link is to the contract that every military member must sign in order to join the military. You are showing a wikipedia page. Just because a court says its there does not mean it actually is. Judges can have a false interpretation or interpretation that goes beyond the original scope of the document and this does not infer that this is moral.