Thread: Lets talk about drugs!

Originally Posted by dodobird

What? How on earth did you come up with that logic. pedophiles, Purse-snatchers etc. are criminals that harm others. Why do you think that by my logic we should condone that?
This is my logic: There are hundreds of recreational activities that are much, much more dangerous then drugs, yet you do not ban discussing them from the forum. By deciding to do so, you are being illogical. An illogical argument cannot be accepted, and this is why this argument is irrelevant.

You misunderstood my point.
Harm is harm, whether it be to yourself, or to another. A person (or forum) that promotes the act of someone harming another person is obligated to take, at least partial, responsibility for that person's death. A person (or forum) whose promotion of an act is the direct cause of someone accidentally killing themselves must also accept, at least partial, responsibility for that person's death.

In other words:

Bobby tells Joe (15) that murder is the ultimate rush. Joe, troubled little bastard that he is, goes out and snuffs some unsuspecting jogger, one night.

Bobby tells Dave (14) that LSD is the greatest thing since sliced bread, and was too irresponsible to give him the proper precautions, or opt to be there when Dave experiments with it. Dave decides to try LSD next Saturday, by himself. He takes a little more than he bargained for, starts wondering why Lisa left him for his best friend John and begins to contemplate just how much his life sucks. Dave, caught in the grips of an acid trip, throws himself off the balcony of his high-rise apartment.

You are Bobby's Guardian. You knew about both conversations, before their consequences. In fact, you were in the room when they happened. You were well aware of the possible outcomes of the conversations, and yet you allowed them to happen.

Should you not accept some of the responsibility for the deaths of both Dave and the unknown jogger?

Originally Posted by dodobird

OK, why discussions on psychedelic drugs should be allowed:
1) Because they are relevant to dreaming.
2) Because some good members want them to be allowed. And feel strongly about it.

Why these discussions shouldn't be allowed:
1) Because they are apparently illegal if the poster encourage using them.
2) Because we don't want parents to disallow children to use this forum.

My question was about why the activities I asked about should/should not be allowed. Or, to use the above analogy: If both conversations lead to the deaths of someone, why would you (as Bobby's guardian and having a policy of allowing any conversation - regardless of risk) allow one conversation and not the other, at the time they were spoken? Why would you allow promotion of an act that causes one to harm his/herself, but bar promotion of one that causes one to harm another?

Would this not be illogical?

Originally Posted by dodobird

Until then, lets stay friends.

Of course. It's all good. No hard feelings.

[Edit: Oh...and, now that I think about it: Many (if not all) of the things you have listed, so far, have age restrictions on them (at least in the U.S.) that do not dip as low as 14. ]