Quote Originally Posted by Universal Mind View Post
"We have declared a fierce war on this evil principle of democracy and those who follow this wrong ideology."

- Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi, former top leader of the Al Qaeda faction of the Iraqi insurgency
Is it wrong to them because of how they perceive it from the United States' examples or is it wrong because they've analyzed how Democracy works and decided so?

When you have a country invading a region under the guise of spreading "freedom" but not actually doing so, coupled with a few crazy religious clerics, you can't expect peace. Why can't we just leave them alone?

Was the Middle East calling us out prior to the creation of Israel (or even up until the 60's), or planning to attack us?

Quote Originally Posted by Caprisun View Post
The fact is we would not have shot them had they not picked up arms against us, simple as that.
Apply that to Middle Eastern citizens and you have your answer to everything about middle eastern issues.

Quote Originally Posted by Universal Mind View Post
We don't want violence. We just want the democracy to be preserved. It is the insurgents who want violence, so we have to fight back to keep the new freedom going.
"Fighting for peace is like fucking for virginity."

Democracy IS violence. The violence of the ruling/majority over the minority.