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      Just you wait, Boy At School Who Called Me Crazy For Lucid Dreaming, until I can show you!

      ...eventually...

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      Quote Originally Posted by Timothy Paradox View Post
      'Till they start taking away your privacy.
      I demand you change your signiture to change Greenday as the person who made that quote =P

      Plus, I knew you were going to say that, infact next time ill write it underneath using my Timothy handpuppet...

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      Awesome!
      Would definitely come in handy for those nights when you wake up and can't remember what the person in your dream looks like.

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      Absolute far cry.

      These 400 pictures were most likely the alphabet shown in different styles, colours, and sizes to arrive at a mean neural response for each letter - albeit with noise.

      They then showed volunteers the six letters in the word 'neuron' and succeeded in reconstructing the letters on a computer screen by measuring their brain activity.

      It is obvious here that each letter of the word 'neuron' was shown individually. Then, it's likely that the neural response from each observed letter was compared to the mean neuron response calculated from the previous pictures.

      If the word was shown in itself, however, then the neural response pattern would have differed greatly, and they wouldn't have been able to reconstruct the word. The problem lies in the reconstruction order, and quite simply, the general compilation.

      Ultimately, their technology did not reconstruct the word 'neuron', it simply matched neural activity of individual simple stimuli, i.e. letters, to previous neural activity that was elicited by, most likely, letters. The experimenter's knew what they were looking for, and thus had only to match neural activity.

      Sensory experiences do not produce invariant neural displays, and therefore, such technology is useless.

      (ps. I haven't read the original article, so this is speculation).
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      Quote Originally Posted by Quark View Post
      Absolute far cry.

      These 400 pictures were most likely the alphabet shown in different styles, colours, and sizes to arrive at a mean neural response for each letter - albeit with noise.

      They then showed volunteers the six letters in the word 'neuron' and succeeded in reconstructing the letters on a computer screen by measuring their brain activity.

      It is obvious here that each letter of the word 'neuron' was shown individually. Then, it's likely that the neural response from each observed letter was compared to the mean neuron response calculated from the previous pictures.

      If the word was shown in itself, however, then the neural response pattern would have differed greatly, and they wouldn't have been able to reconstruct the word. The problem lies in the reconstruction order, and quite simply, the general compilation.

      Ultimately, their technology did not reconstruct the word 'neuron', it simply matched neural activity of individual simple stimuli, i.e. letters, to previous neural activity that was elicited by, most likely, letters. The experimenter's knew what they were looking for, and thus had only to match neural activity.

      Sensory experiences do not produce invariant neural displays, and therefore, such technology is useless.

      (ps. I haven't read the original article, so this is speculation).
      Finally, someone else gets it!
      Unfortunately everyone is ignoring these logical posts for some reason. I guess they secretly want this to happen.

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      Quote Originally Posted by tommo View Post
      Finally, someone else gets it!
      Unfortunately everyone is ignoring these logical posts for some reason. I guess they secretly want this to happen.
      Fixed it.

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      Quote Originally Posted by tommo View Post
      Finally, someone else gets it!
      Unfortunately everyone is ignoring these logical posts for some reason. I guess they secretly want this to happen.
      Of course, your definition of "logical" seems to differ radically than that of some of the rest of us.
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      The definition of logical isn't subjective so mine is exactly the same as yours is if you know what it means.

      So if you do I'm guessing you just misread the article or just took what everyone else said as gospel. Either way you have become fallen into a logical fallacy and you FAIL!

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      Quote Originally Posted by ExoByte View Post
      Sounds cool, but it would totally ruin the fun of having dreams, especially lucid dreams. The fun of lucid dreaming wouldn't be as fun if you could check out what you dreamt later

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      Thats Cool! Its amazing how far technology has advanced in 100 years.

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      I cannot wait for the technology to be released to the public. I am going to try to get is as soon as I can so I can watch my dreams.
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      Good luck with that zeldafreak. It probably won't be sold to the public for a loooong time, and once it is it'll probably be super expensive until it becomes mainstream, if it ever does. Besides, fMRI machines are huge.

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      Strange stuff man.......

      I'm definitely not hookin my head up to that new-fangled nonsense! Hahahahaha.

      Seriously though. That is pretty awesome.
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      Wow wow WOW! Well now that I've read the general explanation, it's not as out-there as I would have thought. Ohhh I love Japan today. I should visit.

      Imagine instead of keeping a dream journal on paper or typing one up, it'd all be on video. Ohhhh wow.

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      Perhaps the next step will be preprogrammed dreams, or the Matrix. Dang. That was fast.

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      The real question is, would you want people to be able to see into your dreams?
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      Wow! Could be great for working out whether someone is innocent or guilty of a crime.

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      Quote Originally Posted by DreamQueen View Post
      Wow! Could be great for working out whether someone is innocent or guilty of a crime.
      How?

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      Quote Originally Posted by DreamQueen View Post
      Wow! Could be great for working out whether someone is innocent or guilty of a crime.
      Yikes! That scares me silly.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Vorquel View Post
      Perhaps the next step will be preprogrammed dreams, or the Matrix. Dang. That was fast.
      Vorquel what do you mean "that was fast"??????

      But that would be sweet. Making your own matrix, with your own laws and physics. That would make you the architect just like off the movie lol. And have other people play in it. Or program your own dream video games, damn i can see total virtual reality ( gaming inside your mind ) would be possible real soon.

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      Quote Originally Posted by HaRd_WiReD View Post
      Vorquel what do you mean "that was fast"??????

      But that would be sweet. Making your own matrix, with your own laws and physics. That would make you the architect just like off the movie lol. And have other people play in it. Or program your own dream video games, damn i can see total virtual reality ( gaming inside your mind ) would be possible real soon.
      What about virtual prisons? Virtual torture? You can torture and kill people in the most complicated and painful ways possible - over and over again...
      Sounds fun, no.
      *sarcasm*
      Maybe lock people in a virtual jail after erasing their memory - and give them the most shitty life ever.

      Great inventions are usually corrupted...
      Airplanes! Woo we can fly! ---> and bomb stuff, and shoot each other IN THE AIR!!
      Nuclear energy!! Clean energy! ----> Yes! Now we can kill millions, many innocents, with just one bomb!!
      etc
      etc
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      Wow, this is a dream come true. I hope tihs actually developes enough when I'm still young so I could try it out. (or at least not dead yet!)

      But yeah, when i was little I would daydream about there being a machine where I could put something on my head and plug it into my TV and I could watch my dreams and show my family how awesome and powerful they were.

      Those were good days but now, this is just too great that they're actually making something that does this!


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      Quote Originally Posted by Timothy Paradox View Post
      What about virtual prisons? Virtual torture? You can torture and kill people in the most complicated and painful ways possible - over and over again...
      Sounds fun, no.
      *sarcasm*
      Maybe lock people in a virtual jail after erasing their memory - and give them the most shitty life ever.

      Great inventions are usually corrupted...
      Airplanes! Woo we can fly! ---> and bomb stuff, and shoot each other IN THE AIR!!
      Nuclear energy!! Clean energy! ----> Yes! Now we can kill millions, many innocents, with just one bomb!!
      etc
      etc
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      Sad but very true.
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