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Sorry, no...Walms is not right.

Since when does WILDing involve depriving yourself of sleep for 2 nights? Oh, it doesn't.

WILD is by NO means synonymous with ANY loss of sleep. A WILD is not the same thing as a WBTB. If I try a WILD in the middle of the day...how am I losing sleep? Wouldn't I be gaining sleep? Do you have a different definition of "sleep"? Please educate me.

Originally Posted by Aquanina

Sorry, no...Walms is not right.

Since when does WILDing involve depriving yourself of sleep for 2 nights? Oh, it doesn't.

WILD is by NO means synonymous with ANY loss of sleep. A WILD is not the same thing as a WBTB. If I try a WILD in the middle of the day...how am I losing sleep? Wouldn't I be gaining sleep? Do you have a different definition of "sleep"? Please educate me.

Are you for serious? I said WILD requires loss of sleep, but its too little to count (The part where you attain SP), then I said that some people do unhealty things to attain WILDs, here I'm not referring to WILD itself, thought this would be pretty obvious but apparently not <.<

Come on, stop trying to put words on my mouth aquanina, thats not nice, especially if you are going to get all "light-insulting" when going at it. Oh right, light insulting refers to the tone I percieve from your post, in case that isn't obvious either.

Edit: I totally agree with Oneironaut, just arguing because Aquanina is blaming me about something I didn't say. As I never said WILD makes you lose a considerable amount of sleep, but the people who practice it (Sometimes).

Originally Posted by Aquanina

Since when does WILDing involve depriving yourself of sleep for 2 nights?

I know of people that do this to invoke REM rebound in order to WILD more 'easily.'

Originally Posted by Aquanina

WILD is by NO means synonymous with ANY loss of sleep. A WILD is not the same thing as a WBTB.

The act of WILDing doesn't cost any sleep (unless you're doing it wrong, which happens very often), but that WBTB, which many methods demand, is going to cost you a few seconds to a few minutes of sleep. Unless you have a different definition of sleep, that is.

But like Walms said in the first place, that's such an insignificant number you might as well not count it.

What should be counted are f-ed up attempts where people lie in bed for an hour or more waiting for signs of SP or some other silly thing. If you screw up a WILD in that fashion during the night, and can't account for it in the morning, you're going to lose sleep.

But like O said, that's the fault of the person more than anything else.

So I'm not really sure what all this arguing is about, as it's apparent everyone is already in agreement about WILD being harmless.