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      Thanks for the outline. I'm still not sure where to begin. I'm getting ready to start at a community college in august, but I'm not really sure what classes I should take. I live in Winfield, Kansas, and I don't think there's a whole lot of dream research going on here. I've been trying to figure out what exactly I'd like to do but all I can think of are the subjects I'm interested in like writing, psychology and dreams. This is the basic area anyway, could you give me a few pointers on what classes I should take to start on a path towards oneirology? I hope this isn't a stupid question, just want to make sure I'm taking the right classes. Also, I've never been all that great at science and am probably in need of a refreshment, is this necessary? Thanks again.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Aquanina View Post
      Is it? I wouldn't really know. It is popular but there are lots of jobs in the field, especially research and teaching. Plus there are so many directions you could go in to get your doctorate. Just a degree in psych won't get you very far.
      What career do you want to pursue aqua?

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      Hey i have a quick question. Is there any actual work at the lucidity institute? Or is it just and organization?


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      Quote Originally Posted by Aquanina View Post
      I've seen this same question brought up many times on our forum and felt it would be beneficial to have a thread specifically for the discussion of possible future careers or jobs having to do with sleep, dreams, and lucid dreaming. This is by no means a complete list, but each career I've listed below is here for a reason. I compiled this list from biographies of people who are all currently doing work directly related to lucid dreaming.

      If you're mostly interested in the type of work done by Stephen LaBerge, then you would probably want to get your undergraduate degree in Psychology, and then work toward a Ph.D in Psychophysiology or other related field. As you prepare to go to graduate school, you would need to find where professors are doing research in your area of interest. You can determine that by looking at the authors of research papers on lucid dreaming, and seeing what colleges or universities they are at. With a strong academic history, you can apply to graduate school, and hopefully a professor in your area of interest will agree to be your adviser or major professor.


      Careers in Science

      Sleep Technologist
      Trained in Sleep Technology and relevant aspects of Sleep Medicine, sleep technologists assist in the evaluation and follow-up care of patients with sleep disorders. Sleep Technology is recognized as a separate and distinct allied health profession. The scope of practice of sleep technologists enables them to work in sleep centers, laboratories for sleep related breathing disorders, home environments, and non-facility-based settings under the direction of the sleep specialist.
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      Psychophysiologist
      Psychophysiology is the scientific discipline devoted to the study of the interrelationships between the physiological and psychological aspects of behavior (SPR). Being truly interdisciplinary, it incorporates researchers from a large number of disciplines like psychology, medicine, engineering, anatomy and neuroscience.
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      Neuropsychologist
      Neuropsychology studies the structure and function of the brain related to specific psychological processes and behaviors. It is scientific in its approach and shares an information processing view of the mind with cognitive psychology and cognitive science. In practice neuropsychologists tend to work in clinical settings (involved in assessing or treating patients with neuropsychological problems, forensic settings or industry.
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      Biochemist
      Biochemists are scientists who are trained in biochemistry. Typical biochemists study chemical processes and chemical transformations in living organisms.
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      Clinical Psychologist
      Clinical Psychology is an integration of science, theory and clinical knowledge for the purpose of understanding, preventing, and relieving psychologically based distress or dysfunction and to promote subjective well-being and personal development. Central to its practice are psychological assessment and psychotherapy, although clinical psychologists also engage in research, teaching, consultation, forensic testimony, and program development and administration.

      Cognitive Psychologist
      Cognitive Psychology is a subdiscipline of psychology exploring internal mental processes. It is the study of how people perceive, remember, think, speak, and solve problems.

      Experimental Psychologist
      is a methodological approach rather than a subject and encompasses varied fields within psychology. Experimental psychologists have traditionally conducted research, published articles, and taught classes on neuroscience, developmental psychology, sensation, perception, attention, consciousness, learning, memory, thinking, and language. Recently, however, the experimental approach has extended to motivation, emotion, and social psychology. Experimental psychologists conduct research with the help of experimental methods. The concern of experimental psychology is discovering the processes underlying behavior and cognition.

      Hypnotherapist
      A hypnotherapist is a therapist who utilizes hypnosis as a primary tool for assisting clients to achieve their goals. A hypnotherapist often differs from other therapists because they focus on the role of subconscious behaviors and influences on the client's life.

      Parapsychologist
      Parapsychology is a discipline that seeks to investigate the existence and causes and conditions of psychic abilities, near-death experiences, out-of-the-body experiences, apparitions, reincarnation memories, regression memories, prophecy, astrology, ghosts and life after death. Parapsychological experiments have included the use of random number generators to test for evidence of precognition and psychokinesis with both human and animal subjects and Ganzfeld experiments to test for extrasensory perception. Parapsychological laboratory and field research is conducted through private institutions and several universities. Privately-funded units in psychology departments at universities in the United Kingdom are among the most active today.

      Research Scientist

      College Professor



      Careers in Metaphysics and Spirituality
      There are plenty of career paths for the lucid dreamer in the field of metaphysical sciences if that's more your thing. The University of Metaphysical Sciences is just one such online university offering a variety of bachelors, masters, and doctorate degree programs in metaphysics, divinity, counseling, etc.

      Metaphysician
      With a degree in metaphysics from University of Metaphysical Sciences you can become a Metaphysician. A Metaphysician helps people learn how to change their reality by working with the underlying thoughts and emotions that cause the problems and create manifestations of suffering. This is a different kind of doctor, one who works with the energy that creates disease and illness, rather than treating the resulting symptoms in the physical body or reality. It is most important to reach deeper into the roots of the problems, the etheric layers where it all starts in pre-matter. By changing the inner landscape, the outer landscape, as pertains to the universal laws of nature, must change with it.

      Spiritual Counselor

      Holistic Life Coach

      Doctor of Divinity



      Creative Careers
      Keep in mind, that being a lucid dreamer can give you a leg up and have a positive effect on just about any job. For example, many well known artists, musicians, authors, directors, etc. have drawn inspiration directly from their dreams.

      Artist

      Musician

      Author

      Director
      You forgot the original career--prophet and prophetess. Pay and perks suck, but what the heck.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Codename View Post
      What career do you want to pursue aqua?
      Right now I'm hoping to get into vet school for a DVM, I'd like to be a Wildlife Veterinarian. But if that doesn't work out, I'll definitely be pursuing a phd in a scientific related field, I'm interested in biochemistry, psychophysiology, and neuroscience. I also haven't ruled out med school. I might just apply to med school when I apply to vet school in the fall...my chances of getting into med school are way higher. It's ridiculously difficult to get into vet school because there are so few of them. The fact that I'm a girl doesn't help either.

      Quote Originally Posted by WLLPEREGOY View Post
      Hey i have a quick question. Is there any actual work at the lucidity institute? Or is it just and organization?
      I have no idea. You could try contacting them? I'm a little disappointed that not much seems to have come out of TLI in recent years. It seems the only thing they are doing anymore is that Hawaii training program. Sadly I wouldn't be surprised if there was a lack of funds to keep something like a lucid dreaming research institute functioning.

      Quote Originally Posted by Philosopher8659 View Post
      You forgot the original career--prophet and prophetess. Pay and perks suck, but what the heck.
      Indeed.

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      Yeah i was going to E-Mail them but i thought i would ask here first just to be safe but thanks anyways!


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      "Right now I'm hoping to get into vet school for a DVM, I'd like to be a Wildlife Veterinarian. But if that doesn't work out, I'll definitely be pursuing a phd in a scientific related field, I'm interested in biochemistry, psychophysiology, and neuroscience. I also haven't ruled out med school. I might just apply to med school when I apply to vet school in the fall...my chances of getting into med school are way higher. It's ridiculously difficult to get into vet school because there are so few of them. The fact that I'm a girl doesn't help either."


      Hmmm how hard do you think it would be to pursue the phd you were talking about. I too have thought about such things but i just dont know.

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      Just found this topic, this is great! Next year I'm starting my degree in psychology and I was thinking what path should I take if I still see lucid dreaming as a serious professional area.
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      Wouldn't mind getting a job in the dream area. We call it Dream Science.

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      Hi everyone i am also new here. Looking for a great time here.

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      I"m trying to take my career in the direction of an independent sleep researcher. Currently I'm writing apps for iPhone and Android that deal with sleep. There have been a couple people who made some serious profit off sleep apps, for example Sleep As AnDroid and Sleep Cycle apps are pretty popular and have close to a million downloads each.

      The sleep and dreaming market is an extremely difficult one to get into though.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Kona View Post
      i'm a freshman too but i think i'm going to be a neurologist i mean i can always do dream research on my own time
      I took 2 years towards neurology then decided against it, psychology would be a better field.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Nhuc View Post
      I took 2 years towards neurology then decided against it, psychology would be a better field.
      Really? I think neurology would be a cool field to go into. I guess it's different for everyone.

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      I really think dream science should become a big part of the future, aliens are involved and so are these little drones that people would identify as an UFO which is dumb. These drones have the ability to remain unseen and look down at the ground from the sky.
      I believe they are part of a bigger conspiracy, I so wanted to get abducted but the best they could do was give me a dream in the afternoon.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Anarkelye View Post
      I really think dream science should become a big part of the future, aliens are involved and so are these little drones that people would identify as an UFO which is dumb. These drones have the ability to remain unseen and look down at the ground from the sky.
      I believe they are part of a bigger conspiracy, I so wanted to get abducted but the best they could do was give me a dream in the afternoon.
      lolwat?

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      This thread has had an impact on my ideas about life and where I can take it to do things different.
      Mcdonalds is not my dream job but these fields are highly interesting. Thanks for sharing.

      Oh and the UFO thing is just me being a nutter, im sure it was just a vivid dream. heck i can barley remember my dreams.

      Imagine a drug that induces rem sleep for days on end 8) inception right?

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      Hi guys, my first post here in a long time. Just thought I'd share:
      I got involved with LDing back in early 2000s, and it was a big factor in me choosing to take a second degree in psychology. While I didnt learn much directly about sleep and dreaming, it is relevant, and of course there is so much more about understanding the mind/body and your own thinking that is tangentially relevant.
      I was lucky enough to do an Honours project in a sleep laboratory, and am currently in the last year of a sleep PhD. Again, these are not about LD, but learning about the science, the physiology and psychology of sleep are important if you want to go that extra step. It would have been hard for me to just say I want to study lucid dreams and get respect for it. It is still an eventual goal, even though life has taken many turns in the meantime.
      There are people in various fields thinking about lucid dreaming but it is still a young field, and dream research doesnt even get much coverage/respect from a lot of sleep researchers.
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      To make what I said cooler, Days on end would only be days because your perception of time would lengthen or shorten depending on the type of dream. Imagine conciously sending your mind where an infinate number of possible combinations can be read. Cosmic music einstein would say, each colour reflecting a sense smell taste uniquly different to another.

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      This is really neat. Stuff I'm majoring in music theory composition but always been interested in this stuff.
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      Quote Originally Posted by nina View Post
      Neurology/Neuroscience would be a great thing to get into to pursue dream research. Go for it!
      I've always been fascinated by neuroscience/psychology/sleep, and I like the openness that an interdisciplinary field like psychophysiology has considering the type of work they typically get into (Andrew B. Watson at NASA working on display instrumentation for astronauts, or developing statistical models based on neurological thresholds, things like that). I think it's something I could excel at given enough motivation and stability, but given the rarity of applications it would be incredibly hard to accomplish on a professional level. While I do want to go back and finally get my degree in something I have talent doing, there's nothing stopping me from doing some research myself, and I think that's exactly what I'll do.

      Speaking of wildlife, I've always wanted to be a ranger too... so many choices, so little time.
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      I really had hard time thinking about my career to pursue. I like a lot of things that's why I was confused.

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      Heyyy thanks for this alot! I was wondering about my career and I really wanted it to do with lucid dreaming and psycholody stuff

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      Glad you found it helpful. I will try to update it with even more information when I have the time.

      But realize one thing people, as lucid dreaming becomes more known to the public, and interest in it grows....jobs are going to open up in this field. This is something important to keep in mind. Just because certain jobs are popular/high paying now...doesn't mean they will be in a few years...and jobs that don't pay well now and are currently difficult to find may be plentiful in future (like something associated with lucid dreaming). Also remember that YOU can totally create your own job and career path...be a pioneer.

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