Thread: New movement free rc idea. I need testers!!!

Originally Posted by your_mum

mzzkc it all depends on your level of awareness and ability to rationalise within the dream

Lawl, wut?

I have no idea which post of mine you're referencing here.

Also, I managed to at least attempt this the other night during an in-dream WILD attempt. For some reason I couldn't figure out how to get the method working properly i.e. I had no idea whether my mouth was really closed or not. Falling back on the nosepinch RC got me lucid in the end.

Originally Posted by Mzzkc

Lawl, wut?

I have no idea which post of mine you're referencing here.

Also, I managed to at least attempt this the other night during an in-dream WILD attempt. For some reason I couldn't figure out how to get the method working properly i.e. I had no idea whether my mouth was really closed or not. Falling back on the nosepinch RC got me lucid in the end.

When I tried it, I folded in my lips to seal my mouth shut. It would look like you had no lips if you tried it while looking in the mirror.

Originally Posted by mikeac

When I tried it, I folded in my lips to seal my mouth shut. It would look like you had no lips if you tried it while looking in the mirror.

Yup, thats kind of what i was doing subconsciously... other times i was just applying a lot of pressure on my lips together and blowing... There is a very clear feeling of having your lips tightly closed and yet somehow not affecting the fact that you can easily blow out them.. its a strange feeling yet a very clear indicator that you are dreaming. Now, speaking a little more on this technique, I had many many awakenings through the night last night and I repeatedly used this method to RC, every time it showed that I was in fact awake, I retested using the 2nd RC and found that it was accurate every time thus far. I did not have any fa or lucidity last night but this RC did work every time I tested it, around 8-9 times to show that I was not dreaming when I woke up..

I also wanted to state that I understand a little more about why this works so well and you can test this yourself now. The nose pinch RC works by pinching your nose closed and attempting to breath in and out of your mouth, if you can breath, in or out, then it is a successful RC and you have been proven lucid. The only argument I have heard against my RC is that if your physical mouth is closed it may not work. This argument in that case would be the same for the nose pinch RC if it had the ability to fail under those circumstances. The part that makes this work is also the fact that you are pushing air outward, it will move past your physical lips even if it has to part them slightly by force.. The other obvious thing is that the nose is unplugged during my rc, therefore one might think you may be breathing out through your nose yet interpreting it as your mouth.. If you try this right now, breathing deeply outward through your mouth, then switch to breathing deeply out your nose midbreath, you will see that there is a full switch between the two.. and that MOST people cannot do both at the same time... when breathing deeply out of your mouth, your nasal passage is fully closed, therefore there is no reason to pinch the nose using my RC. Breathing in and out are different and may not work with this method, because there is possibility of switching back to nasal on the inhale or exhale... so just breathing outward through the mouth in somewhat of a blow with your lips tightly sealed will close the nasal passage intirely and if you are non physical, you can blow easily through your seemingly tightly closed lips. If you are not, your mouth will try to inflate with air lol

plz continue testing this. If this is proven to be reliable, even equally reliable as the Nose pinch, then we have a new incredible MOVEMENT free rc that will not ruin SP or lucidity in the case of a fail..