Thread: Help needed from other lucid dreamers

Help needed... I want the lucid dreams to stop.
I have always had vivid dreams since childhood. Recently (about a year and half ago) I started having lucid dreams. I didn't even know what they were called, I always thought it was something everyone could do. If I'm being chased I'll make myself fly away. If I have the dream where I'm walking in slow motion I'll make myself walk fast. So many different types. I've been visited by dead grandmother, knew I was dreaming, but she still walked away, I couldnt control it (btw her eyes were completely black, really disturbing). Small warnings... I'll dream that there will be a check point for inspection/ registration, two days later I'll pass through one.

The problem is I'm always tired. That's how I found out what lucid dreams are, I was looking up sleep disorders. No matter how much I sleep I am always fatigued. It apparently has to with the stage of rem my brain is achieving. It's not restful sleep. And it's every night. I can't make it stop.

It seems so many people want to be able to do this, I just want it to go away. I'm so sick of being tired. Does anybody know techniques (yoga, meditation, medicine even) that will let me get real sleep?

Anyone has this problem, please help.

Im sad to hear that your dreams are disturbing you so much. Especially your lucid dreams, it sounds very intense to me. My first impulse would be to say work with your dreams and try to find peace with them.

But of course, maybe you dont want to, maybe your sick and tired of it. So... and im not sure about this, but i could reccemend looking into the different effects of different herbs that you can brew as tea. Maybe it can offer you some temporary releif. The reason i suspect there might be such a tea is because there are teas that do that opposite (increase rem) and so maybe there is something that can encourage more deep sleep. Im not certain, but i just wanted to throw the idea out because i saw nobody had responded yet and maybe it could help.

good luck
sam.

Um sorry to say this but your problem isn't lucid dreaming, not the first time this happens around the forum. If you want to supress REM sleep take melatonin or a beer, both of those should take it away, but even without REM you will still have lucids, a lucid dream, even though it is considered a disorder does not cause lose of sleep and won't make someone fatigued. I know at least 3 people who are natural at this and they don't have the problem you do, one of them has been taken to a lab in order to test this even and didn't show any sign that lucidity = less restful sleep, so it may be something else. Whatever else that is making you less rested is also causing you to gain lucidity naturally, however I don't know enough as to what that may be.

Thank you to both of you for offering some advice. I will look into the tea. I thought it was considered a lucid dream. From what I've read on here a lucid dream is a dream where you know your asleep and you control what you're doing in the dream. If I'm not grasping it please let me know so I'm not saying the wrong thing. I am thinking about doing a sleep lab but I do t know what it will do. These types of dreams run in my family. My sister suffers from the same thing and the feeling of sleep deprivation after a full nights sleep. We both thought it was normal. From what I've read it's not of the norm to be able to take a quick 10 minute nap and have a full vivid or lucid dream. I love the tea idea though at bedtime, I don't like medicine. Thank you both, I guess well see if it works.

No no, you ARE having lucid dreams. But the lucid dreams are not the cause of the problem. It is more like the problem IS the cause of the lucid dreams, as I said before, lucidity doesn't seems to disrupt how restful the night will be, despite altering the logic center of the brain by waking it up.

Oh, I understand now. I've been to my regular doctor about the fatigue, she just put me on vitamin supplements. When she ran my bloodwork everything was completely normal (my vitamin d was low but nothing crazy). I hope a sleep lab can find the problem. Do you think it could be sleep apnea, have you heard of that causing lucid dreams? That would explain fatigue, but I'm still so new to the world lucid dreams. I appreciate your helping.

Hm, not sure if Apnea causes lucids.
The reason why I think its a disease thats causing it, is because two other members of DV have reported that same condition, suddenly starting to have lucids and then showing an unrestful sleep, as opposed to lucidity getting you more rested as shown by tests. I don't really know what could be causing it, sorry >.<

LB82, I agree w/ Hukif that the lucids are not causing the lack of restful sleep. This does not sound like sleep apnea either (apnea is when you stop breathing while sleeping). There are actually several sleep disorders or other issues which could cause unrestful sleep or chronic drowsiness. I highly recommend seeing a different doctor if your doctor's only solution was to put you on vitamin supplements. Lately I have been studying neurology articles on sleep disorders partly to understand a sleep disorder of my own (Isolated Sleep Paralysis), so maybe I can help point you in the right direction. One cause could be Idiopathic Hypersomnia, especially if you are sleeping in excess of eight hours per night and taking frequent naps, but still not feeling rested. Restless leg syndrome or low thyroid function could also be a cause. Testing thyroid function may be the easiest place to start. If this is not the case, you may want to find a doctor or psychiatrist if specializes in sleep disorders to help diagnose you. A sleep study definitely should help diagnose your problem.

Also, check out this online journal that has a lot of great articles on sleep disorders: Oxford Journals: Brain

Originally Posted by LB82

Help needed... I want the lucid dreams to stop.
I have always had vivid dreams since childhood. Recently (about a year and half ago) I started having lucid dreams. I didn't even know what they were called, I always thought it was something everyone could do. If I'm being chased I'll make myself fly away. If I have the dream where I'm walking in slow motion I'll make myself walk fast. So many different types. I've been visited by dead grandmother, knew I was dreaming, but she still walked away, I couldnt control it (btw her eyes were completely black, really disturbing). Small warnings... I'll dream that there will be a check point for inspection/ registration, two days later I'll pass through one.

The problem is I'm always tired. That's how I found out what lucid dreams are, I was looking up sleep disorders. No matter how much I sleep I am always fatigued. It apparently has to with the stage of rem my brain is achieving. It's not restful sleep. And it's every night. I can't make it stop.

It seems so many people want to be able to do this, I just want it to go away. I'm so sick of being tired. Does anybody know techniques (yoga, meditation, medicine even) that will let me get real sleep?

Anyone has this problem, please help.

LB82, look into Narcolepsy, my mother and sister have that and get the same symptoms you do. And stress only makes them more tired. Let me know if that sounds like that may be it.