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      Lucid Dreams affecting Waking Life Emotions

      Lucid Dreaming is so strange. I started putting deliberate effort into it while going through a divorce and severe depression. I kept having depression dreams about my ex-wife, so I took control over my dreams and made them stop. That made me happy. I felt so powerful, flying around in dreams, and laughing at my enemies.

      As I grew in Dream Control power, I became so amazed at what was possible. Then, I discovered Shared Dreaming, and my mind was totally blown constantly for about a year and a half. I began living a second life or maybe even a first life on the Dream Plane. I tried to find other people to share dreams with, but I found out very few people have the same connection that I have with Raven Knight and Man of Shred. Then, I realized, oh, we knew each other as children on the Dream Plane. I battled gods and married the daughter of the Devil.
      My waking life seemed so mundane by comparison. It was depressing. I have been trying to make my waking life as epic and amazing as I possibly can, but I am so limited on this Plane by comparison.

      I imagine some lucid dreamers, after doing it on a regular basis can get depressed because the other world is so much... better.

      I have taken a lot of crazy risks in my life, trying to make magick happen in waking life, and I am discovering some of it, like psionics, is "real."
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      Good question, but I cannot really answer it as I am not yet really experienced (although I've been trying since 3 years) but I'd like to ask you a question back - not about the same topic, sorry....

      So, I'm not english and had to look up that word 'psiconics', and wikipedia says the following:
      "Psionics refers to the practice, study, or psychic ability of using the mind to induce paranormal phenomena. Examples of this includes empathy, telepathy, telekinesis, pyrokinesis, electrokinesis and other workings of the outside world through the psyche."

      And I wondered if this is actually what you meant. Can you move things just using your mind? Or talk in other peoples minds?
      The rational part in me says no, but there are so many people that claim things like this to be real that I have to ask.
      (Also, I'm new to this forum, maybe there's an extra thread for that, but i think it fits in here, because if you're actually saying those things are real, then it makes the waking life also a bit more interesting)

      To your question, as I mentioned, I cannot tell you from experience, but I think it depends very much on how you view it. You can say 'it's depressing that the waking life is that bad', but you can also say it's amazing how much better the dreamworld is, even when you remark how great the 'normal' life is.
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      This Plane, that we are born into, in my opinion, is where we are given the ability to learn, and become. However, we soon learn that it in it self, is yes; quite mundane in comparison to what other planes hold for us. However, we are always able to come back to this plane, reflect and learn from our experiences. This is quite significant.

      In this plane you may not be able to fly faster then the speed of light, and create fire breath out of nothing etc etc etc. However, It allows us to be held back by many different limitations. Those limitations allow us to become aware of the fact that we actually are VERY limited here, sadly. (even though if we were all on the "right" path to begin with, we could very well be doing these things in reality) Having these limitations, gives us all the more reason to break free from them. So, indirectly, your ability to become what you have become, and will continue to become, is all thanks to this plane, and the need to break free from it.

      I would love to discuss psionics with you also, if you are interested (In private, though). Also, I'd like to run a slight experiment in the near future too, again, if you are interested that is.
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      Yeah, it makes you wish you can REM more than an hour or 1.5hours. Making your life more exciting will only make your dream feel less exciting. Solving depression using LDing was smart. As mentioned by Validus, waking plane has a significance, so just try to live with the fact that LDs are only a small fraction of life, but that is what makes them so exciting. But there will always be a void.
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      I can say that personaly I can bring feelings I had from a dream into waking life. I have done it a few times but each time was on accdient and they were horrible feelings. Feelings of sadness and great regret. But on the other hand my roomate has been able to do it a few times as well. During his lucid dream he was able to vividly vibrate his body like pulses of energy were going through him. When they combined he felt complete bliss and joy. He did this and tore away the dream world into reality and carried that Joy with him through out the day. So yes, Lucid dreams affecting waking emotions is a thing and can be used for good and bad.

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      Quote Originally Posted by WakingNomad View Post
      My waking life seemed so mundane by comparison. It was depressing. I have been trying to make my waking life as epic and amazing as I possibly can, but I am so limited on this Plane by comparison.

      I imagine some lucid dreamers, after doing it on a regular basis can get depressed because the other world is so much... better.
      It depends so much on what filter you are using to see the world. You can use LD to have exactly the other kind of feelings, not depression. Sadness/depression, as Buda said (no, I'm not religious of any kind) comes from attachment. If you become attached to the lucid-dream world, you'll start comparing it to the waking life and become depressed because your focus it's on the limitation of this world. If you notice, LD requires being in the present moment continuosly to preserve that consciousness state, so you can use that same state of mind in the waking world, you can appreciate simple stuff like: you can touch things, you can experience taste, smell, hearing... but instead of enjoying it we overlook those things.

      Imagine that you live in a world/reality/plane were you don't have hmmm...sound. If by some magic means you travel to this world where you can hear music, you'll like it, then you could become addicted, then sad for having to come back to your real world.

      I believe there's a reason why you, me, all are here, it's where you belong right now, you can travel to the incredibly world of LD, but if we do not learn first to love the place and the experience of the place where we are, it would happen the same here or in another reality. The best thing is to travel in the middle of the path, not attached to waking life nor LD world, enjoy both and your life will become amazing in both waking and dream state.

      This feeling also happened to me when I started LDing, I felt kind of sad that life wasn't as cool as the other reality, but then I started to ask myself: why not enjoy the taste of a chocolate the same as I do in LD?, so I started to truly enjoy small and stupid little things of life that we commonly overlook, it's like "hey! I can feel water... or... I can use this magic device to communicate with other people in any part of the world" ... I know we can't fly or fight a dragon in this world, but you can do it later in your dream. That's all I wanted to say, enjoy the experience in this life, we are just consciousness perceiving

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      Quote Originally Posted by GenFalcon View Post
      I can say that personaly I can bring feelings I had from a dream into waking life. I have done it a few times but each time was on accdient and they were horrible feelings. Feelings of sadness and great regret. But on the other hand my roomate has been able to do it a few times as well. During his lucid dream he was able to vividly vibrate his body like pulses of energy were going through him. When they combined he felt complete bliss and joy. He did this and tore away the dream world into reality and carried that Joy with him through out the day. So yes, Lucid dreams affecting waking emotions is a thing and can be used for good and bad.
      I have brought some feelings from dreams to waking, but they weren't like joy or anything like that. One time it was the feeling that I was in a room with one other person. Not in a creepy way, but that I was just with someone. No one was there though. I was confused for a while.

      I personally love my life, and my LDing and dont feel the need to compare because I can't change my waking life by wishing it was different. Everything I want to do in waking I do, not to be an adventurer or anything, though I have chosen a somewhat adventurous lifestyle because that seems like where God wants me to prepare for and what I want to do most.

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      Kilham, I agree with everything you've said. WalkingNomad....look up a book called Lucid Living by Timothy Freke. It may be something that will interest you.

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