Great project, but I'm a tad confused with the rules? |
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@doublehelix - I'm sorry you feel that way. I think that you may have just not quite understood what I'm asking for. The project, at heart, is going to be a series of books co-created by myself and any members of dreamviews who wish to get involved, along with those from other communities. Any funds generated from the project will then be funnelled straight back into it, so it can then also expand into furthering dream research and putting on events etc. - this will also involve members of the community and will reflect what they feel is needed. |
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Last edited by DanielLove; 05-28-2016 at 06:37 AM.
Great project, but I'm a tad confused with the rules? |
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Last edited by Highlander; 05-28-2016 at 10:12 AM.
"Reject culture..." "Put the Art pedal to the metal!"
- Terence McKenna
I can't speak for Dreamviews staff, but this project has been discussed with the site owners and moderators, and as it's working in conjunction with Dreamviews members - to bring their views out into the wider world, and as it's also promoting the site, I think they felt it was a suitable project to be shared. |
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No...I understand completely. What I was hoping to read was something MUCH, much different. Something more akin to this: |
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Last edited by DoubleHelix; 05-28-2016 at 11:44 AM.
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Hey dreamers I hope this doesn't come off the wrong way |
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Last edited by Wisher; 05-28-2016 at 12:20 PM.
All the Cool Cats and Lucid Dreamers are hanging out in DreamViews Webchat, click to join us!
Merilly merilly merilly merilly
Life is but a dreamm
Hey Wisher, I've actually used the forums regularly for many, many years (since around 2007). My old account eventually died (lost the e-mail address and couldn't reactivate it), and I felt I'd prefer to sign up without a pseudonym after I discovered I could no longer use it (back in 2014). During that time I've been, sadly, too busy working to be able to be a regular contributor - and lurking seemed more suitable, as people would think I was trying to "use my name" or something. |
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Last edited by DanielLove; 05-28-2016 at 12:28 PM.
Well you've been here long enough to know then |
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All the Cool Cats and Lucid Dreamers are hanging out in DreamViews Webchat, click to join us!
Merilly merilly merilly merilly
Life is but a dreamm
Hey all, |
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Given the hype and intended tension that was build up here and DV's "generous exception" to promote commercial stuff on DV, I'm disappointed in what was presented. |
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Ok guys, let me see if I can answer some of your questions here. |
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Thanks for that clear explanation Gab - it's not my place to get involved in these things, still, I do understand why some members had concerns. Good to have it cleared up! |
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Last edited by DanielLove; 05-28-2016 at 11:30 PM.
@ gab: I for one never questioned the appropriateness of the granting of access to this forums membership by the DV staff. My position is that this forum is yours to do with as you please. I think I've been quite clear about the source of my personal disappointment - which is mine and mine alone and has nothing to do with how this site is administered. |
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@DoubleHelix, you're right, there have been some truly amazing pieces of research in recent years which certainly deserve more funding, more work and to also be widely publicised. These are just some of the things I want to share in the books. I'm a writer/educator primarily, so I see it as my duty to use my platform to help promote the findings of those who are working in the areas you mention. Ideally, in the long run, once the project is a success, the funds generated will be funnelled directly into helping support that kind of research. It would also be wonderful if those who worked towards this, the community, were then also able to be involved in that research if they wished. Little, if any, of what I've done has ever been with a commercial mindset (I can think of much easier ways to go about making a living!), but occasionally one does have to use these channels and strategies in order fund or further more important causes. My goal, if anything, is to develop a passion and love for science, dreaming and our universe in the wider mindset of lucid dreamers. Not everyone shares our enthusiasm for these subjects, and I think it's important to remember that half the battle is showing people why it is so very wonderful and important in the first place. There is also the matter of a tsunami of misinformation to push back against as well. So these are my primary aims and I really hope that I can find the support to play my part. |
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Last edited by DanielLove; 05-29-2016 at 02:05 AM.
Not everybody likes kickstarters, and that's fine. Just remember folks, that the latest lucid dreaming book you read wasn't for free, nor was the laptop or the phone that you are using to access DreamViews, or the sleep mask your are using for your lucid naps. Look around you, everything costs money. We are all making huge corporations richer by buying things we need. They are lucky to have funds to make new products. I could go online and buy Daniellove's book when it comes out, or I can support his project now and "lend" him some money to make the project possible. I will get my investment back in form of a book when it comes out. It's a win-win. |
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Hey DanielLove, very well produced video! Near the end you say you're a writer not a video presenter, but you could've fooled me with that video |
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Last edited by Mismagius; 05-29-2016 at 03:08 AM.
In every age, in every place, the deeds of man remain the same
WICKED is good
The title of the series is "Lucid Dreamer's Guide to the Cosmos". I imagine if somebody wasn't a lucid dreamer, they would think the series is for exclusively lucid dreamers, which they aren't. Therefore, they would think the series isn't for them. |
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Last edited by dolphin; 05-29-2016 at 05:34 AM.
@Mismagius - Thanks! You have no idea how incredibly difficult and frustrating making that video was, so I really appreciate you saying it turned out well! Thanks for doing your bit to help spread the word, I think it's going to be an ongoing battle to keep the campaign visible as the internet is such a fickle place with an incredibly short attention span. So, if you can keep occasionally doing a shout out over the life of the campaign, that would be really helpful! Thanks for being a positive voice, it's sometimes hard to stay upbeat on a campaign like this, because it's often a battle against the odds. So, every little bit of encouragement is really refreshing and very much needed! |
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Last edited by DanielLove; 05-29-2016 at 12:06 PM.
I see your point for my first three points. Thanks for clearing that up! |
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Daniel, I believe you are truly sincere in your enthusiasm for lucid dreaming, and advancing the art, and anyone on this site who is a lucid dreamer should share in that.... I'd expect more support and understanding as it were. As one who has tried to get others motivated toward lucid dreaming (even my own family - and largely failed), I know the barriers you are up against outside of the lucid dreaming community.... if nothing else I would hope for moral support inside (and maybe like me the silent majority is indeed with you). C'mon guys! We're on the same team! If these books help get the word out, and lend some credibility to the lucid dreaming community, I'm all for it. I made a pledge and really hope you reach your goal. Heck, if it gives visibility to Dreamviews, it is worth it. This is my "home" site and I am so grateful this community is in place... I consider it my giveback to Dreamviews. |
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Hi Daniel, |
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Last edited by RickM; 05-29-2016 at 08:37 PM.
I am an artist, animator and video editor so I can give guidance as far as that stuff goes. Your art and video work looks pretty good so far. |
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Last edited by gab; 05-29-2016 at 08:07 PM.
@Dolphin - Thanks for the suggestion, I've done just as you've asked and added the "and". To be perfectly honest, putting the KS page together, and the endless revisions, became a little like when you repeat a word over-and-over, until it stops having any meaning. So little details like that were very easy to overlook. I appreciate your help, a fresh pair of eyes are hugely useful! |
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Last edited by DanielLove; 05-29-2016 at 09:01 PM.
I've also updated my signature - so it should show where the campaign stands, and how much we need in pledges per day to reach the goal. Hopefully it'll give you a better idea of how things are progressing and the kinds of charts I'm seeing on the Kickstarter dashboard. Which will hopefully go some way towards explaining why I may be relaxed on some days and freaking out on others! |
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Last edited by DanielLove; 05-29-2016 at 09:04 PM.
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