Quote Originally Posted by Happiness is a Warm Gun View Post
You obviously don't know much about dissociatives like salvia and pcp, which can resemble hallucinogens like LSD and DMT (when taken in large enough doses that you're too high to be able to tell the difference) but have completely different effects on your body and brain. I'm not just trying to protect people, I'm trying to end this stupid discussion, because salvia doesn't put you into a lucid dream state, no matter how much of it you smoke.

I've experienced ego death a variety of ways, including through salvia. Ego death, by most definitions, involves a loss of your sense of self (you can't tell where "you" stop and "your environment" starts). That sense of self is required for lucidity, to remember the difference between you and your dream environment. Lucid dreaming and ego death are more opposite than alike, with the only similarities being the hallucinations.

Again, it requires years of schooling for you to be remotely qualified to prescribe mind-altering substances to people, because simply taking them (and talking your friends into it) doesn't mean you know anything about them, or how they affect people. LOL ! OMG you have no clue.
When I fall short of a breakthrough with salvia it is almost guaranteed that I will experience an unbelievably terrifying ego death, that is why I no longer us it to break through. Now I only use a little bit of regular leaf before bed as an aid.

I understand it is hard to believe until you've experienced it, I was extremely skeptical before it happened to me. When you break through, whether you use salvia or dmt, it is like a super vivid dream, not everyone is lucid every time, but most have some awareness.

I don't claim to know how salvia really affects the mind, nobody really knows at this point. I just know first hand that you can experience something very comparable to an ld with it. I'm not trying to command anyone to try these drugs, I am just being honest about my own experiences and the countless experiences of other people I have witnessed.

Sorry I came off as insulting, i get excited by this topic.