Thread: it's a secret

Originally Posted by lucidspark64

ever since i got into lucid dreaming, i kind of kept it a secret simply because i thought if i told anyone they would just look at me like i'm some kind of alien and just be like "ok......... um...... so........ yeah! Anyway!!!".

but i do hear that ppl really do think that lucid dreaming is a wierd hobby they wouldn't bother trying. WHY! i dont get the why part. you can do anything you want in dreams.

i think they are the alien and we are the only normal ppl. i dont know, what do you guys think?

i fessed up to my girlfriend and told her and she thinks its wierd but she still supports my hobby as a lucid dreamer. i just dont freagin get it.

i think all you ppl are wierd aliens (not us lucid dreamers), the outsiders... i guess they just not good enough.

I don't blame them one bit. While I am excited to get an LD, I am just too tired these days to even attempt to WILD or anything else for that matter. People like life the way it is and getting an LD takes time. I mean I read some people took half a year to get one. I was lucky to get an accidential one in a week's time after 2 days of intensive work(1-1.5h/day) followed by a couple of days of relaxation. Anyways, people don't like the unknown and you need practice which puts people off. Look on the bright side, at least your gf supports you

Yeah, I got no support when I told people when I first got interested either. But, I think it is because they are really boringly normal people who think that 'born, grow,fuck,die' like everyone else is all that there is and they buy into that and don't want to really bother with anything else.

Plus, they tend to be not very imaginative and rather stupid people.

I mean, 'reality' sucks compared to dreaming and at least you can say you do that instead of drugs or something bad like that.

:-)

we are all the same just some of us have access to more dimensions of existence the other. Be an and in an ant colony by day, take part in all activities and humor it all, and by night while everyone is turned off continue as brightly as ever.

I don't mind that people think it's weird. In fact I like it better that way, because it's something special.

I don't really blame the "other" people.Not everyone would even bother to listen someone talk about LD and if they do not everyone will make an effort to have LDs. I feel stupid sometimes when I wanna talk about LDing. I feel I'm gonna get that "um...k" response.

Originally Posted by Lady Grimbones

Yeah, I got no support when I told people when I first got interested either. But, I think it is because they are really boringly normal people who think that 'born, grow,fuck,die' like everyone else is all that there is and they buy into that and don't want to really bother with anything else.

Plus, they tend to be not very imaginative and rather stupid people.

I mean, 'reality' sucks compared to dreaming and at least you can say you do that instead of drugs or something bad like that.

:-)

You know, your post reminds me of "The Silver Key" by H.P. Lovecraft. I'm not into his whole Cthulthu mythos, but his dream stuff is amazing. Something tells me the guy knew about lucid dreaming or wished he could lucid dream without really knowing it was possible. Just read "Ex Oblivione."

Originally Posted by [user-name]

I don't mind that people think it's weird. In fact I like it better that way, because it's something special.

Fully agree, makes it all that special if you can have LDs

To me, it seems like they think that we just don't have fun or are depressed in RL so we have to do something in our dreams to have fun. Though there are some depressed people on here, the vast majority are I guess "regular" people that do sports, have jobs, go to school, just like everyone else.

I have three friends who I discover are trying or have tried. I am tied for most successful out of 4. Hooray? (Two had no success, one has lucid nightmares pretty often, and I had only a couple lucid dreams, and only one since I started "trying")

I think most people say it's weird because they're upset they didn't think of it. If anyone call us LDers weird, just tell them that we live, actually live, 1 1/3 longer than the normal person (8 hours more each day).

Ah I don't mind it, people tend to thinkg that way to anything new/unknown unless its told by their religion/science store/manager/hero/whatever. I mean, I won't blame them unless they know fully what it is and has given it at least a chance, then... weird depending on the situation <.<

Part of the problem, is that many people don't think much of dreams at all, if they even remember them. It's kind of hard to have an interest in Lucid Dreaming, if they are hardly interested in normal dreaming.

All it took for me to get into it was a short segment on "Attack of the show" and I had never remembered dreams lately. I think everyone should at least try to research it.

Originally Posted by lucidspark64

ever since i got into lucid dreaming, i kind of kept it a secret simply because i thought if i told anyone they would just look at me like i'm some kind of alien and just be like "ok......... um...... so........ yeah! Anyway!!!".

but i do hear that ppl really do think that lucid dreaming is a wierd hobby they wouldn't bother trying. WHY! i dont get the why part. you can do anything you want in dreams.

i think they are the alien and we are the only normal ppl. i dont know, what do you guys think?

i fessed up to my girlfriend and told her and she thinks its wierd but she still supports my hobby as a lucid dreamer. i just dont freagin get it.

i think all you ppl are wierd aliens (not us lucid dreamers), the outsiders... i guess they just not good enough.

I've yet to meet another person that has lucid dreams.Bizarre shit because I've been having random lucid dreams ever since I was a kid. Maybe its people that are always questioning reality that are the most likely to have spontaneous lucid dreams. I remember clearly last night I wasn't fully sure if I was dreaming or not so I did my usual old test. I tried to fly but these days when I try to fly I have this subconscious KNOWING that I'm gonna do it. If I'm hovering above the ground its hard to have any doubts as to whether or not I'm dreaming.

yeah you guys are right. i did think about that before.

i really am greatful that i took an interest in lucid dreaming becus it seems nobody i know in the real world does. and i feel like everybody who's not interested or thinks is weird, doesn't know what they're missing.

i just dont get why people would be this way.

People want to know these things (even if they don't know they want), the only problem is that some people don't accept well the unknown. If shown the right way, more than half people will want to have lucids.

My trick for not being labeled as a weirdo is to start talking about sleep, and how we sleep one third of our live, and that 6 years of that are dreams. Then talk about how those sleep hours are not productive. At last, I add a

But I know how to make them productive...

And move on with other topics. People wonder, and in few seconds they will ask me:

What did you mean with making sleep hours productive?

At this point they are all yours

Anyway, a person must know who to say this to, because there are "people" and "people".

And I don't care being labeled weirdo too, actually I am labeled weirdo for other stuff instead of lucid dreams

I've wondered your question for so long... "Seriously? Why do people are not interested in another life with no limits and consequences?"

But I finally got used to it. Now, I've decided I would respect their opinion even though I still find their choice pretty dumb... I've stopped getting annoyed about it.

What annoys me is that they think your a freak. I mean, Just 'cause I like... Dreams? Just 'cause I keep up with my nocturne life, I'm aparently weird? What's the point of dreaming if what we're SUPPOSED to do is to ignore them? I'm sure we don't randomly dream without any reason. Everything that makes our body is there for a reason (except for body hair XD)

But I've finally got someone interested into Lucid Dreams. We were talking about school and how it was boring and it should teach more interesting stuff so i said "They should teach Lucid Dreaming" And my friend was like "What the hell is a lucid Dream?" so I said "It's when you are conscious in a dream and its THE ONLY WAY to ENJOY a dream" and went on with something else but then he said "It's impossible to be 'conscious' when you are sleeping!" And I replied "Yes its possible! And its called "Lucid Dreaming". Its true, look it up on google." Then i talked a bit about it was and then said he'd probably think it was weird like everyone else but he said he was actually interested and wanted to know how. Finnally a not boring persoN!

The thing is dreaming is a part of yourself you don't know everything about and something you can't evaluate or explore in waking life. If I'm going to do the best in life I can possibly do, I need to investigate every part of my behaviour; including dreaming. I really don't understand people who aren't interested in their dreams, it seems to me like they're giving up on a part of themselves.

That view may be a little extreme reading it back, lol.

Originally Posted by Richnfg

I really don't understand people who aren't interested in their dreams, it seems to me like they're giving up on a part of themselves.

Actually, that is a really good point. I hadn't thought about it like that but you are right. Even if you don't care about getting lucid your dreams ARE a part of you and you could learn alot about yourself and how you view things and the world if you would just explore that part of yourself.

Dreaming is essential to life just as sleep is. To not pay attention to the dream is like not respecting or loving yourself enough.

:-)

Originally Posted by SleepyCookieDough

Then i talked a bit about it was and then said he'd probably think it was weird like everyone else but he said he was actually interested and wanted to know how. Finnally a not boring persoN!

Your friend should read LaBerge's Exploring The World Of Lucid Dreaming for all the scientific, non hoo hoo, information that will explain a lot on what is known and how it was proven possible.

:-)

I almost got in a fight talking about dreaming at a party. This one guy claimed he didn't dream at all, ever. When I tried to explain that everyone dreams, he just likely wasn't remembering them, he go really mad, and started yelling that he didn't dream. I just let it go after that.

Guy was probably having homoerotic dreams or something.

Originally Posted by The Cusp

I almost got in a fight talking about dreaming at a party. This one guy claimed he didn't dream at all, ever. When I tried to explain that everyone dreams, he just likely wasn't remembering them, he go really mad, and started yelling that he didn't dream. I just let it go after that.

Guy was probably having homoerotic dreams or something.

Best owned I've heard in weeks.

To stay on topic (and not feed the spam squid), heres my healthy contribution. It's like this: My family doesn't know. My friends don't know. Why? Because when people think lucid dream, a lot of people think hippy :/. I once humored my dad, and he said "Don't ever do that! I don't want you screwing up your brain". So yeah, I just keep it to myself. Also, I once told my little brother, and he came here and spammed the boards. Hahaha :/.

My dad has that weird spiritual belief (that he got from his dad) and the person that started that belief does Lucid Dreams but he messes it up. He says that in dreams, he has acess to parts of the invisible world but he must not go to far or else the negative spirits will take him away and so my dad (which doesn't lucid dream) always tell me to be careful when I lucid dream because it can be dangerous... Right! Once I was telling my little brother how to overcome nightmares: Become friends with the monster. But my dad said that was a trap and you should never become friends with negative forces and that the right way to get rid of monsters in a dream is to tell them "I know who you are (an evil force) so leave me alone" and he/it/she will leave immediatly... It annoys me that the spiritual person that said all this is messing people's opinion about dreams...

I like the fact that we are few to lucid dreams... I wish people didn't find it annoying that we talk about it though... its annoying not being able to talk about the most interesting part of your life...

Originally Posted by The Cusp

I almost got in a fight talking about dreaming at a party. This one guy claimed he didn't dream at all, ever. When I tried to explain that everyone dreams, he just likely wasn't remembering them, he go really mad, and started yelling that he didn't dream. I just let it go after that.

I find people like him so childish... i mean, getting mad for that...

"You dream every night!"
"No I don't!"
"yeah you do, everyone does"
"NO! I DON't"
"You just don't remember them"
"AAAAAH! It's not true! I don't have dreams! That's it"
"Whatever, man... Think what you want"
"I DON'T DREAM! WHEN ARE YOU GONNA GET IT! BOOHOOHOO! MOMMIE! THE MEAN BAD BOY BESIDE ME THINKS I HAVE DREAMS! BOOHOOHOO!
"wo, calm down, man! It's completly normal to dream!"
"AHHH! CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE! I DON't EFFIN DREAM!! I'm killing the fuck out of you stupid retard!!"
*run away*

Originally Posted by The Cusp

Guy was probably having homoerotic dreams or something.

He defenitly is and his just so ashamed of it