Thread: WILD - Wake Initiated Lucid Dream

Thank you Sageous -

I did read through the tutorial on noise and thought about - realised I did want to lucid dream much more than I want to have the experiences on the way - so in the meantime I am doing my best to make the noise unimportant. Shall I go on to next Lesson?

I also have been reading through the fundamentals questions and answers and enjoying it immensely as my interest in self awareness has been there since I was a teenager and maybe befor - I think that the understanding of self awareness that I have been cultivating is very similar to what you speak of. One that involves being present, being aware of one's being - feelings, emotions, knowing clearly that they have an impact on those and stuff around and about - things simply do bounce back from past interactions to my future and into this present moment, the connection in undeniable - where I have my feet on the floor making an impact ...the sounds I can hear how i may get enjoyment or not. As I sit with my back feeling warm against the seat I know that this has been generated because of this connection of my being here! My friends smiling face looking at me - this is the connection we have kindled in this moment and past and if I wish we can go on . In this way It is evident at this moments pause, in this moment, that there is continuous flow of connection going on between myself and my surroundings

- however making sure I have the soft focus on myself allows me to feel grounded here and as you say to have some feeling of existence. This is kind of soft feeling of existence, a gentle touch - when I feel my breath coming to and throw I know there is a connection. Sure it is not always full of joy or excitement but nor is it bad - this simple act for me brings a feeling of knowing...and it's as if one knows where one is - whatever is going on one knows where one is in things.

I have been doing regular practice of the above RRC and then a quick RC i.e working on Memory with expectation and intention through looking a little back and into the future- looking into this Connection between me and my environment so bringing memory of what has happened in recent past is happening now or may happen in a short time in the future. Asking is this a dream? Could it be a dream? Then to kindle expectation with some visualisation. Then quick RC.

Is remembering to experiencing like this regularly through out the day enough to say I am practicing RRC?

So on my day off I did have lots of sleep- many dreams but not LD .Once again tho in the very very late morning after lots of sleep this morning - I began to notice the little snippets of dreams - following them gently on and then ...me finding myself awake in the bed then within the forming dreams again then back awake in bed..my awareness somehow was not strong enough to latch onto any of them moments to see them as lucid - but I feel on the verge in these moments....then there was one almost - like my last experience of almost "diving "into wild ( now I know the term dive!) ;

- I was with my mother and we are watching the television.So on the television there was a TV show host asking us,the public, if this has actually happened in real life and they showed a clip (like a gameshow) .So on the t.v they showed a clip of a machine printing out numbers and The game show Host asked - "in 1982 was there a bill asking The general public to change their Front door numbers to a new number (which ever number they were given) ?"
I said to my mother this is incorrect this is wrong it didn't happen - my mum said "no it's true!"
as I stared into the television I heard my mother's voice saying "it's true,it's true "
and as I heard her voice saying this I began to use the images on the TV has a HI.I started moving towards it drawing the images towards myself and before I knew it was becoming self-aware and remembering that this was a feeling that I had before when trying for wild, then started to go towards the HI more and more but... - I started to wake up and didn't quite make it through again tho

There were also some more attempts during the morning and other mornings this week that consisted mainly of wake back to bed - stayed up for about an hour. Then relaxing getting the HI but always seeming to drift off to sleep before actually reaching the dream I must find a better anchor maybe you could give me some help with this.I did find the 61 point relaxation you mentioned and have been doing this but still managed to drift off - then quite often I will wake up when I'm in the dream or just after and be slightly annoyed that I am in the dream ... It's like a kind of jolt of being in the dream then brings me back to being awake again.

Anyway sorry for the very long post but I don't get much time during the week and so here it is everything poured out in one go! Any help and suggestions most welcome
Thanks very much for your support ( all that you have done that helps us all now !) and input - its very much appreciated

Originally Posted by Patience108

I did read through the tutorial on noise and thought about - realised I did want to lucid dream much more than I want to have the experiences on the way - so in the meantime I am doing my best to make the noise unimportant. Shall I go on to next Lesson?

Sure. But keep in mind that this tutorial is not part of my DVA WILD class; feel free to ask questions on the Q&A thread on that forum, if you have any.

I also have been reading through the fundamentals questions and answers and enjoying it immensely as my interest in self awareness has been there since I was a teenager and maybe befor - I think that the understanding of self awareness that I have been cultivating is very similar to what you speak of. One that involves being present, being aware of one's being - feelings, emotions, knowing clearly that they have an impact on those and stuff around and about - things simply do bounce back from past interactions to my future and into this present moment, the connection in undeniable - where I have my feet on the floor making an impact ...the sounds I can hear how i may get enjoyment or not. As I sit with my back feeling warm against the seat I know that this has been generated because of this connection of my being here! My friends smiling face looking at me - this is the connection we have kindled in this moment and past and if I wish we can go on . In this way It is evident at this moments pause, in this moment, that there is continuous flow of connection going on between myself and my surroundings

I have been doing regular practice of the above RRC and then a quick RC i.e working on Memory with expectation and intention through looking a little back and into the future- looking into this Connection between me and my environment so bringing memory of what has happened in recent past is happening now or may happen in a short time in the future. Asking is this a dream? Could it be a dream? Then to kindle expectation with some visualisation. Then quick RC.

Is remembering to experiencing like this regularly through out the day enough to say I am practicing RRC?

Sure.

There were also some more attempts during the morning and other mornings this week that consisted mainly of wake back to bed - stayed up for about an hour. Then relaxing getting the HI but always seeming to drift off to sleep before actually reaching the dream I must find a better anchor maybe you could give me some help with this.I did find the 61 point relaxation you mentioned and have been doing this but still managed to drift off - then quite often I will wake up when I'm in the dream or just after and be slightly annoyed that I am in the dream ... It's like a kind of jolt of being in the dream then brings me back to being awake again.

The 61 points technique is actually a method for relaxation and not an anchor, so it seems to have worked just fine for you. My preferred anchor is a mantra, and I do have a session dedicated to them in my WILD class, here; hopefully that will help.

That jolt you mention should eventually be less of a problem as you accumulate experience. In the meantime, though, you might use a mantra that counters the jolt (like, "I'm dreaming; I'm calm), because with WILD you are very likely to bring your mantra right into the dream with you.