Thread: WILD - Wake Initiated Lucid Dream

^^ You really can't stay up waiting for REM to start, because it won't start while you are awake. If you are referring to how long you should do a WBTB, I recommend that you stay up for at least 15 minutes, but no more than an hour.

If you are doing your WBTB after 5 or so hours of sleep, your REM periods are pretty close together and -- given that you generally wake up right at the end of a REM period -- it's a good idea to stay up for a little while so you can start your WILD when the next period is about to begin, and not during NREM.

That said, I wouldn't worry too much about REM periods, or whether you are timing things well enough to catch one; it's really not as important as these forums make it sound. The other, and for me much more important purpose of WBTB is to give you a little time to gather some waking-life self-awareness before you make your WILD attempt while your body is still in general sleep mode.

So I guess the real answer is don't worry about REM. Just do your WBTB after several hours' sleep, stay focused on your dream, and you will likely find yourself in REM when you go back to sleep. Keep in mind, though, that it might take a few attempts before you find find that sweet spot of when to get up and how long to stay up.

I don't know anything about the podcasts, so I can't help you there.

Welcome to DV's, BTW!

Originally Posted by Sageous

Keep in mind, though, that it might take a few attempts before you find find that sweet spot of when to get up and how long to stay up.
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If this were martial art the saying would be "100 times to learn it, 1000 times to get good at it." So, yes a few attempts. Be patient, it will come with enough intent and experimenting.