Thread: Senses Initiated Lucid Dream (SSILD)

I didn't get lucid but I just wanted to share what I did if you have any feedback CosmicIron. ^_^

I woke up for WBTB naturally after about 5 hours.
I then went to the restroom and got back in bed.
I lay still on my back and did about 4 cycles.
Then I rolled over onto my right side (it was hazy at this part.. I can't remember if I did more cycles while I was on my side or not).
I then fell asleep after a while.

Even though I think I do okay, I still don't get lucid.
Do you think I could have "woken up" into an FA?
Because I remember waking up once or twice before my alarm went off to wake up in the morning.

I keep forgetting to do this. I'll have to give it another try tonight.

Originally Posted by Bobblehat

Hi astralboy,

My sig is just a bit of frivolity.

I don't really buy into the "believe and it will happen" school because I don't believe in blind belief. It's not a tenable position. I have a kind of heirarchy of beliefs that - in my opinion - reflects reality:

I believe I will sleep tonight.
I believe I will dream.
I believe I will recall some dream events.
I believe my awareness in dreams will fluctuate, sometimes that awareness will rise to a level where I realise I'm dreaming.

That heirarchy is positive, but realistic.

But you are the proof that your believes are real lol
Why being negative is more realistic ? :p
Dont believe without proof other persons or religions but you can believe without doubt and without problem in yourself !!

All your beliefs about yourself are real, because beliefs will always be real for you (I know from astral, books and experience) Belifs make our world, our life.
If you believe that you are weak... you are weak.
If you believe that you are strong... you are strong.
If you believe that you can heal you... you will (placebo effect)
...

The day you will believe that lucid dreams are natural for you it will be!


Dont believe me ... practice =)

I am going to be trying this technique again tonight. The first time I tried this technique months ago it worked, so hopefully it will pull through again!

I think I'll give this a shot. I'm not one to try methods with no clear mechanism to their workings. But I have a theory, perhaps it turns on parts of the brain associated with interpreting sensory information , which dreams are made out of. I think the FA's would be caused because the brain loves to make dreams based around the information you took in right before falling asleep.

Originally Posted by Sydney

I didn't get lucid but I just wanted to share what I did if you have any feedback CosmicIron. ^_^

I woke up for WBTB naturally after about 5 hours.
I then went to the restroom and got back in bed.
I lay still on my back and did about 4 cycles.
Then I rolled over onto my right side (it was hazy at this part.. I can't remember if I did more cycles while I was on my side or not).
I then fell asleep after a while.

Even though I think I do okay, I still don't get lucid.
Do you think I could have "woken up" into an FA?
Because I remember waking up once or twice before my alarm went off to wake up in the morning.

Sydney, I'm sorry it's still not working for you How long does it take for you to finish each cycle? Were you doing each step quickly? Maybe 15-20 seconds are not enough. I suggest you try to extend the length of each step. For example, while looking behind the eyelids, try to thoroughly examine the darkness and do not move on to the next step until you pick up something out of the dark no matter how trivial. Same goes for listening -- do not move on to next until you can hear something inside your head... Basically just forget about the 10-20 seconds requirement. Do this for the first 4 cycles then ease up and allow yourself to drift into the trance with a couple of more relaxed cycles and then go to sleep.

Originally Posted by CosmicIron

Sydney, I'm sorry it's still not working for you How long does it take for you to finish each cycle? Were you doing each step quickly? Maybe 15-20 seconds are not enough. I suggest you try to extend the length of each step. For example, while looking behind the eyelids, try to thoroughly examine the darkness and do not move on to the next step until you pick up something out of the dark no matter how trivial. Same goes for listening -- do not move on to next until you can hear something inside your head... Basically just forget about the 10-20 seconds requirement. Do this for the first 4 cycles then ease up and allow yourself to drift into the trance with a couple of more relaxed cycles and then go to sleep.

Thank you CosmicIron
Will try this tonight and see if I get any success. I will, though, because it's SSILD.

Originally Posted by CosmicIron

Sydney, I'm sorry it's still not working for you How long does it take for you to finish each cycle? Were you doing each step quickly? Maybe 15-20 seconds are not enough. I suggest you try to extend the length of each step. For example, while looking behind the eyelids, try to thoroughly examine the darkness and do not move on to the next step until you pick up something out of the dark no matter how trivial. Same goes for listening -- do not move on to next until you can hear something inside your head... Basically just forget about the 10-20 seconds requirement. Do this for the first 4 cycles then ease up and allow yourself to drift into the trance with a couple of more relaxed cycles and then go to sleep.

I think I will try that too.

Hmm, that didn't work either.
Maybe I just need to try it some more Will again tonight.

P.S.: When focusing on my body, what should I be "expecting" to feel?

Also I think I know what may be the problem. I never know when I'm in the trance. It doesn't feel like I'm in it when I stop doing the cycles and fall asleep.

Originally Posted by Sydney

Hmm, that didn't work either.
Maybe I just need to try it some more Will again tonight.

P.S.: When focusing on my body, what should I be "expecting" to feel?

Also I think I know what may be the problem. I never know when I'm in the trance. It doesn't feel like I'm in it when I stop doing the cycles and fall asleep.

Any out-of-normal sensations: heaviness, movement, numbness, itch, tingling, and etc. You can also actively imagine movement of certain body parts, for example, wiggling of fingers and toes, slow spinning of stomach, head sinking into pillow, and so on. The reason I didn't include these in the technique is this sort of active techniques can sometimes cause people to lose sleep. However, in your case it seems you can fall asleep pretty quickly so maybe you can give it a shot.

Originally Posted by CosmicIron

Any out-of-normal sensations: heaviness, movement, numbness, itch, tingling, and etc. You can also actively imagine movement of certain body parts, for example, wiggling of fingers and toes, slow spinning of stomach, head sinking into pillow, and so on. The reason I didn't include these in the technique is this sort of active techniques can sometimes cause people to lose sleep. However, in your case it seems you can fall asleep pretty quickly so maybe you can give it a shot.

Okay, thank you. Still though, how do I know when I'm in the trance?

This is exactly what i needed, a technique that gives me a mix of both lucids and obes! I'm so gonna try this one

I had what I think was a success with this last night. I recognized I was dreaming and I did try to assert control (I tried to give myself a weapon and pick up cars with my mind) yet at the same time I never felt I was in control of myself. It was as if my brain was having me act in accordance to how it thinks I would act if I were to go lucid.

Tried it today and failed :-) I was extremely tired when I went to take a nap. I did the repetitions but they kept me awake and I got interrupted a couple of times by outside noises and light rls. There was one moment where I felt my arm went a little numb just like in sp. But that went away and I fell asleep soon after it. Nothing happened.
Will try again tomorrow! Seems like it'll actually work!

Failed tonight cuz I couldn't fall asleep. The reason was that the airforce flew over my house at 3AM -.-!

2nd LD in three days with this tactic. Only reason I didn't have a third was because I slept all through the night and didn't wake up to try monday. I was doing the cycles and felt my body just feeling weird. I got up and did a reality check and sure enough I was dreaming. That was pretty freaky.

Originally Posted by JeanLucGodard

2nd LD in three days with this tactic. Only reason I didn't have a third was because I slept all through the night and didn't wake up to try monday. I was doing the cycles and felt my body just feeling weird. I got up and did a reality check and sure enough I was dreaming. That was pretty freaky.

That's awesome!

How many cycles did you do before your body started feeling funny?

I think I was on my fourth when I adjusted to my normal sleeping position. That's around when I believe I fell asleep. I guess I just started dreaming that I was still doing it.

I didn't get any more LDs after that 2 with this technique :/
But I think I was lazy this last days, I will try it better tonight.

I tried last night but made only 2 or 3 cycles before falling asleep and something crazy happened.
I flew from my bed and fell in the ground near my bed. I heard my sister coming and asking me what happened, then I woke up again in my bed :O
I couldn't recognize that it was a FA :/ But it was kinda funny xD

Decided to get back to LD-ing. I'll start out with this method, seems simple enough

Originally Posted by Rubens

I didn't get any more LDs after that 2 with this technique :/
But I think I was lazy this last days, I will try it better tonight.

I tried last night but made only 2 or 3 cycles before falling asleep and something crazy happened.
I flew from my bed and fell in the ground near my bed. I heard my sister coming and asking me what happened, then I woke up again in my bed :O
I couldn't recognize that it was a FA :/ But it was kinda funny xD

That was both awsome and hilarious.

"Try to pick up any colors, lights, or images" I thought it said "Try NOT to".
I did it this morning but it was hard for me not to pick up any images so I was fighting it a little. Until I forgot it I started sort of dreaming about my repetitions but was still awake and that really felt like it was helping. I already had 8 hours of sleep so it wasn't working. I felt the same effect as I did the other day. Will try it again next time, maybe this afternoon!

A quick question, so I don't do anything wrong :S When you do theese cycles do you focus on what you see, hear and feel at the same time or do you seperate them?

Originally Posted by Appe96

A quick question, so I don't do anything wrong :S When you do theese cycles do you focus on what you see, hear and feel at the same time or do you seperate them?

do them seperately but if you end up mixing them up upon being in the trance its fine.