Thread: Daredevilpwn's WorkBook

Great Idea! I love my granny but sometimes she just doesn't 'get it'. Some ear plugs and a sleep mask will definitely do me some good lol.

I am getting the hang of DEILD. I pulled it off today and would just like to explain how I do it now, but this is just my explanation and it may or may not work for you but it may help someone out. So first I wake up and I make sure I stay still. Then I start to take slightly deeper breaths but not enough to completely fill my lungs just a bit more air than usual. I then focus on just relaxing and NOT the vibrations that I usually feel. As I focus on relaxing I begin to feel the vibes coming, and as a few minutes go by they become more intense. My biggest mistake was focusing on these vibrations too much, instead focus on breathing and keeping your body relaxed however I believe it is ok to use these vibes as a guideline as to when to enter the dream state but don't place your focus on them. As you focus on relaxing and breathing, when you notice that these vibes have stopped or have significantly slowed down then I immedietly 'roll' out of my bed.
Usually I feel a resistance to my rolling but that may or may not happen to you. For those that are good visualizers you can just visualize a new dream scene but I am not a good visualizer.

Now when I roll out I am almost always in a very convincing copy of my room but of course at this point it isn't my room. Then I do a RC just to make sure. The RC usually confirms I am dreaming and I do my thing.

Now I only did this breathing thing only two times and I could be wrong about this but you should try it. So to summarize what I just said, wake up, stay still, focus on relaxing and your breathing. Whatever you experience, be it vibes, hypagogic imagery, whatever that usually happens in your trance state, ignore it all until it seems like they stop then immedietly try and enter the dream state.

Now that being said heres another lucid dream I had today

Your method is very close to what I do. The only difference is that I don't focus on breathing. For some reason I feel like I can't breath when I do that. Most of the time I go into a sort of relaxed meditation. Sometimes I "roll" but mostly I imagine my feet floating up on over the bed. When I feel my feet on the floor I am suddenly out of bed and walking. I don't really visualize during DEILD either. I think I am starting to change because I don't always have the vibrations. I have found that sometimes I completely bypass that and go into a dream. You are so right that you should never focus on the vibrations. Yes I do note it as a marker but nothing more. I think I may try the breathing thing because sometimes I think I get a bit hasty with getting out of my body; it doesn't always go smoothly.

What I am saying is: Very good work. I am impressed. You got it right!

Excellent discussion! First of all, congratulations Daredevilpwn on a great lucid and on zeroing in so well on what works for you in DEILD. I think you'll be glad you wrote these thoughts down later on when you're trying to fine tune your technique and remember how this felt.

I'm curious about some of the details. First, I didn't see you mention that you had awakened and focused very much on your previous dream. This made me wonder if you simply didn't worry about your previous dream scene. Recall often takes me several seconds of very intense thought, often taking me right out of the mood to DEILD. It's rare that I wake up with a very thorough memory of my last dream, unless it was lucid. (And DEILD chaining from lucids is something that has worked for me.)

Basically, are you guys just attempting this any time you wake up? Or only when you wake up with very vivid recall?

I'll also jump over to your DJ and leave a comment or two about dream control. Good work!

To answer your question, it doesn't matter what the circumstance is when I wake up. If I wake up with a vivid recall I would try an do the technique, if I wake up with little to nothing of what I dreamed of I still do the technique, for me it doesn't really matter. Though I do believe dream recall helps with doing the DEILD since it helps maker a smoother transition from dreaming to waking life.

I had this very long non-lucid yesterday, I woke up and I was still but I was in an uncomfortable position so I couldn't DEILD, maybe it was for the best since I would've forgotten this interesting non lucid. Here it is That dream was from yesterday though. Here is the more recent one

I've found that if you can hold onto that dream feeling, you can move around and still be able to re-enter a dream. It is a bit tricky, and it also helps to have a simple image to focus on for re-entry. I'm no expert, but ive been attempting DIELD lately with increasingly positive results. Its a very strange state of mind to be in where you feel sleepy but you know you don't have to fall asleep. yeah.anyways.

I remembered quite a few dreams today. But the lucid one was pretty interesting. I had the idea of trying to speak to my inner awareness as Robert Waggoner explains in his book Gateway to the innerself the results were dissapointing.

Here is the lucid

weird nonlucid about a monster

And a nonlucid about a game that doesn't exist and portal

I like the fact you tried to speak to you inner self. I have been meaning to try that as well. Too bad it didn't work out. I want to know when you get it though. It would be really interesting to see what happens. Maybe try not to use it as dream control but more for information or enlightenment.

I tried to speak to my inner awareness again and I got slightly better results as well!

here it is!

an interesting non lucid

and a quick lucid

Next time I get lucid I hope to ask more advanced questions to this voice.

An idea, based on my own experiences: I remember things better when they are written down. Or rather, when I have read the words, versus just hearing them. I wonder what would happen if you asked your inner awareness to text you something. Or even just write the answer in the air. The point of all this is, it might be easier to remember the answer if you see it written somewhere.

I went to bed pretty late yesterday but I somehow managed to recall the dream in great detail, the only way I could explain this is that on that day I was doing more reality checks a lot more frequently. And by reality checks I mean sporadic awareness sessions. I used to make them two mins per session but do it every few hours but now I do them like 30 secs per session but more frequently coupled with self awareness. It's the only thing I could think of since it was the only thing that changed. It could've been something I ate or some other thing I overlooked. Anyway here is the entry

No, it probably wasn't something you ate. Practicing awareness during the day is THE single most important thing you can do to have a lucid. Just be careful not to wear yourself out mentally.

Wow I had this very long and interesting dream that was kinda lucid but not really. I think that doing the more frequent but shorter awareness sessions is already starting to manifest in my dreams.

Here it is. Enjoy!

It's always great to start seeing results from your efforts. That's very encouraging. GO AWARENESS WOOT!

Another low level lucid where I know I am dreaming but not enough to realize everyone is a part of me. This is another interesting dream. Enjoy!

I managed to chain 3 lucids today. I Feel pretty proud of myself today
One thing I have noticed is that sometimes the transition from waking life and to the dream may not always be 100% seamless, sometimes your dream body may be in slightly different positions than your physical body. When did the technique I notice that my tongue which was originally in my mouth was sticking out and clenched by my teeth when I was transitioning. And my leg which was originally in a secure position to NOT fall off the bed fell of the bed when I was transitioning. Although at first I thought this was really happening in waking life, I know now these are dream body sensations, which means next time I experience these subtle changes in my bodies position it would be an indicator that I am now in the dream world. So what I am saying is be AWARE of your bodies position, if it changes without you consciously doing it then you are in the dream world.

Dream.

Wow, nice! And that's a great tip, I never really pay attention to my positioning :O

Congratulations!

Yeah, positioning is a great point DareDevilPwn...Especially if you keep the same position on a regular basis. Even knowing how you fell asleep is a good thing when those transitions come up. The last lucid I had started with me being in the opposite position that I was in reality. Although that was already in the dream so this is probably a bit more effective for transitions. Good stuff!

Yes! I realized I was dreaming two times today. So two DILDS! My practices are working nicely. For those that want to know. Earlier what I used to do was become aware of my senses and environment then do a reverse reality check, but a few days ago I decided that it would make more sense if I did the reverse reality check first (what am I doing, where am I, where am I going, etc). Before focusing on the senses and environment. Here are the two dreams.

DILD 1

DILD2

Very smart thinking. I think I will incorporate this idea. Congrats on the lucids!

Thanks. Good luck to ya!

Sorry. I got a little lazy with updating this. Just wanted to let you know I haven't given up.

Very long dream

If I am not mistaken, learning lucid dreaming actually changes the brain. The same happens when we learn new things; neuroplasticity its called. That means our brains are changing shape. So don't be discouraged when your brain takes a break.
Its evolution maaaaan...