Quote Originally Posted by paigeyemps View Post
There are no set rules with any technique. It's not exactly 'forbidden', it's just that for most people, it has an undesired effect. But it's always different for everyone, and the best way to know what works is to try everything. As for the electronics usage, the main reason (i think) is the exposure to light. See, when we are exposed to light, our body immediately decreases production of melatonin, which is the chemical that naturally makes us sleepy. This is why we naturally feel sleepier at night, since we are less exposed to light so melatonin increases, and we feel sleepier. Anyway, even I use electronics during WBTB, i just make sure to keep the brightness really low, and avoid turning on any other light sources in the house. This is true for many other lucid dreamers, so don't be afraid to try it as it may not even ruin your attempts. The worst that could happen is that it will keep you up, but then you'd learn not to do it next time. Win-win. Plus, using that WBTB time to read about lucid stuff could potentially help get you into the right mindset.

Regarding the counting and drifting off, i would suggest using another WILD anchor—perhaps white noise, breathing, mantras, or visualization, whichever you prefer. Some anchors work better so it's best to try them out and see which suits you and helps you stay aware more.

Lastly, my vacatiooon... Well I went to this other island in my country, it's called Palawan. You can do a quick google images search to see what it looks like (ignore the blue people that show up in the results lol)

That island looks so awesome would of definately been a nice as place to visit

UPDATE: (Sorry this is a bit long)
before bed i watched a few episodes of Everybody Loves Raymond ( i know this is random but it links to something strange that occured while i was WILDING )
My alarm rang at exactly 5:00 i woke up sat down had a think then began to read lucid dream tutorials on my phone i placed it down and had a breather in the dark then i went to the bathroom and splashed my face in cold water i then went to bed got warm and lied on my back i then began to say my mantra 'i become aware in dreams' over and over and counted here and there now heres where it gets wearid i begin seeing images the images construct a scene i see a famly ive never seen before watching a tv with no signal static suddenly the scene in front of my eyes turns into a scene off Raymond i hear voices and the charcters are saying 'yeah i lucid dream but i stopped because all i could dream about was your damn mother' i then heard a audience laughing suddenly to my shock i felt intense vibrations the scene faded and i said to myself 'relax dont think about your body this will pass' suddenly i felt a strong vibration reach up and shock me awake to the point i was upright in bed so from this i ask did i do anything wrong? Why was i unable to stay through the vibrations? After this i went to sleep normally and actually had 2 pretty vivid clear dreams with a good structure so thats pretty cool