Quote Originally Posted by Tlaloc View Post
Hi 501 - good luck on your attempt! Hope you break the dry spell! What do you think has been your success rate with the supplements?

I would echo NyxCC about using SSILD to get to sleep - I use it as a kinda last resort if I can't get back to sleep after a wbtb (and before my vibes go off) and it seems to work well for that - it forces you to stop getting stuck on one train of thought but switching you to think about other things. I haven't gotten lucid from it per se it might intergrate well with you G related wakefulness.

The other thing I did - and I don't know if you can do this with the supplement is that I get as relaxed as I can BEFORE i activate the countdown on my vibrating clock. In other words I wake up for a wbtb, do a MILD for a few mins then try and relax as quickly as possible (doing SSILD cycles if necessary) then just as I feel I'm drifting off I reach down and hit the button which starts the 21 countdown clock on my alarm. That way I'm asleep before the first vibration hits. I dont know if you could do this -if the g is in capsule form have to in your hand by your mouth and just chug it before falling asleep?

best of luck - T
Hey T. I have actually been a lot better about getting back to sleep after G. I tried to WILD a lot last night but just get irritated at the attempts. My foot cramping always messes with me. WILDING for me is very uncomfortable. Every time I jumped into a dream from wakefulness I didn't keep my awareness. I remember for my lucid last night that when I woke up I absolutely remember putting myself in the sleeping position I was in when I woke, if that makes sense. It seems like after about an hour with the G that as soon as you drift off to sleep a dream starts. Its very strange. I can know I am in a dream and know I can wake up but not really know enough to control it. Very strange but I enjoy it. I can always get right on the verge of drifting off aware but every time I am right on the brink my brain tries to focus too much on the scene. I will get it one day. I have really only been attempting WILDs on and off for two months now. I have really only attempted around 7 or 8 times I think. I usually don't plan on wild but I get to this point when I am falling asleep when I realize that I am on the brink so try to hold on to my consciousness, this usually just keeps me awake.

Sounds like your vibes are working pretty good. I will be trying that sometime.

Oh and about your question on the supps the success rate isn't great. I think the body chemistry and surroundings and everything have to be spot on. up to this point they have been hit and miss with nothing consistent. I do know the dosage that wont keep me up and will help me achieve lucidity though. I just have to work on the sleep cycle WBTB part along with getting back to sleep and being able to WILD.