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      Sakata Gintoki's Workbook

      Hello, I am Sakata Gintoki, a respectful way to call me is Gin-san and this is my workbook.
      I want to start in this intro class because I have been aware of LDs and trying to get them for a long time but it seems I haven't tried hard enough by far. Once I get a solid grip on things, I will take stabilization and dream control lessons.

      Some info:
      - First thing I do when I wake up is grab my phone which is always within grabbing range and write my dream down, then later on when I feel like it I post it in my dream journal here on DV along with some thoughts on it
      - I will count and report my amount of reality checks and how often I checked

      Reality Checks:
      Calculating, test superpowers, throw things up and down to test gravity, examine electronics, read things, look at the time, count fingers, look around for unusual things

      Dream Signs:
      Fights, being with people I haven't seen in a long time/old friends, village in Turkey, pretty gals

      Short-Term Goals:
      - Wake up naturally several times throughout the night
      - Have 7 lucid dreams a week
      - Meditate for a few minutes 3 times a day
      - Get a stunning view
      - Explore the dream world and meet interesting people/beings

      Long-Term Goals:
      - Have a magical world I can keep going back to, full of dragons and other mythical beasts, warriors and sorcerers.
      - Have good access to and control with my LD control chamber

      Lucid/Dream Recall History:
      I have been lucid dreaming with poor ability about once a month for at least the last 5 years. 2 Years ago I was journaling with paper and pen and I had better recall and more lucid dreams than I do now. Right now I barely remember about 1 or 2 fragmented dreams every morning and lucid dream about 1 or 2 times a week.

      Current Technique:
      DILD (the lazy technique )
      And meditation
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      I just meditated counting 100 breaths, it's 2:30AM and I read through all my DJ entries on my phone and on most on DV. I will fall asleep in about 15 minutes. My phone said it was 8 PM about 30 mins ago, I was confused for a tiny moment but RCed even though I knew it was because I removed the battery earlier this day. I RCed by checking the content of my phone.

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      I just realized I have a driving lesson at 11.30AM so I will have to put my hopes for becoming lucid tonight into WBTBs. I really hope I will wake up, I will use auto-suggestions: "When the alarm goes off, I wake up and record my lucid dream". My first and hopefully not my last alarm clock is set at 8AM
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      Yesterday I stopped to reality check 3 times and did about 4 or 5 reality checks, today I did none. I meditated this morning and yesterday morning for about 5-10 minutes.
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      I just started practicing awareness, did 3 rounds of reality checks. I meditated for a few minutes because I realized I was getting sleepy and sleepiness reduces awareness.
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      Now, if I remember correctly, I am getting lucid once or twice a night for the last 3 or 4 days. I don't know why, I really stopped trying. Only thing I do is record my dreams, I stopped meditating and reality checking. I do sleep a lot, like 9 or 10 hours a day and as I fall asleep I hope for lucidity and do some autosuggesting. I don't feel like journalling them but I will, some day One problem though: the lucid dreams are pretty short, not very vivid, I am not really aware like I am in waking life and I can't do much. But I don't really care, as long as I get lucid. What seems to help is drinking a lot of water because it wakes me up to remember and journal it in my phone. It really annoying and it pisses me off to wake up with my other brain down there telling me to rush to the bathroom, but it seems to help so I will keep doing it. I don't know if it has anything to do with it but I got my violin last friday and since then my lucidity increased greatly.
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      That's great, congrats! I guess the violin practices may help too, you probably are in a clear focused state of mind when playing - quite similar to meditation!

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      Yeah that is almost correct. Having a violin does put me a in a clearer more focused state of mind, but I can guarantee you doesn't happen while playing a piece. I suck way too hard to have that kind of indulgence in the things I play. But in order to play elegantly I practice and I have to practice very wisely and in a focused way, analyzing everything that happens. Also this prevents me from wasting my time surfing Youtube and wasting my time and watching porn all day long, so it prevents me from putting myself in a state of mind where I have low or pretty much no awareness. Though I do get a clear clutterless state of mind when listening to a violin master playing something.

      One question: are we assigned dream guides? If so, I assume you are my dream guide since you 'like' and write in my workbook. Or do you work as a team and comment on everybody's workbooks when you see something to comment on?

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      There's no allocation system. We periodically browse and comment on workbooks, offer advice as needed and answer Qs. If you have Qs you can ask them in the workbook or the http://www.dreamviews.com/intro-clas...o-class-q.html thread. Feel free to address a specific guide in your question or contact them if you want to be answered by a specific person.

      Best of luck with your practices!
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      Today I got 10 sweet hours of sleep and had a nice long lucid Near the end I even did a weather change! My first weather change I also tried to achieve stabillization and clarity by trying to increase my awareness. I also focused on certain things for about 10 seconds each. It seemed to work, but then 2 DCs attacked me, one of them was big and strong and turned into The Hulk, I couldn't hurt him at all. Now I'm going to read some stuff and write down some stuff in my notebook about stabillization and hopefully the next time I get lucid I can start practicing

      I still continue journalling all my dreams on my phone right after waking up but for some reason I really don't feel like putting it all on DV. I don't know, maybe if a dry spell slaps my ass I will feel like doing it again
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      My next dream goal:

      Sit down and do nothing!!
      Yeah, next time I'm just gonna do that because I am sick and tired of lame quality lucid dreams and want to get to the real deal as soon as possible

      EDIT: Sit down and just look around, notice everything around me and feel at home in my dream body. Or just walk around and observe the dream. Instead of going out and trying to do all kinds of crazy things, first I have to find my way to prolong the dream and increase stabillity.

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      I had a cool non lucid fight last night, after that a very long and good sex dream I also remembered to focus on certain objects for stabilization. I forgot to sit down and do nothing. Lately I haven't been thinking of LDing much, so that must be why I didn't think about it. I'm still happy with the night though

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      Something funny happened this morning in my dream. A friend of me and I were eating berries, when we were bored or had enough berries he asked alright what to do now? I said, well go back (to some place I don't know, maybe his shop or back home..). I said go back ofcourse, where else are we going to go. Unless this is a dream we can't go anywhere else. He said is this a dream? I said nah this can't be a dream.. The dream ended around that time.
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      This morning I had a tiny moment of lucidity at the last 5 to 10 seconds of my 10 hour sleep. Today, I just read a transformation guide and a trick to induce lucidity. You just spell L-U-C-I-D over and over when falling asleep, I'll try that out and I will do some reality checks too. I haven't been lucid dreaming for the past week, so I have to start trying a little harder.
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      I totally forgot to spell myself into lucidity. I got into a downloading rage and didn't stop until 6AM in the morning o.0

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      Damn it's been about 6 weeks since I've had some dream progress..

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      For the past few weeks my night life has been getting more and more exciting
      Just kidding The only thing I've been humping is my own hand
      About 2 weeks ago I had the most amazing dream ever, I had good awareness and it was vivid, so vivid that in my memory it has even better graphics than in real life. I'm not kidding! The view was more amazing and colorful than anything I have ever seen in real life. I was flying high above the clouds and also in something like this:
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      In between rocky mountains. But it had brighter colors and there were trees and grass and green stuff on the mountains, below me was a big city or village and I was flying over it. More importantly, the flying had an amazing feeling to it because I could feel the wind for the first time ever. I also went really high, way above the mountains.. I landed somewhere in a village, met a guy and a girl, we were instantly best friends. I ate some really really delicious fruit, it was more tasty than anything I had eaten in real life, even though my mom is an awesome cook! We got charged by a giant unicorn so we went on some vehicle and rose off, running away from the mystical horse but we were on an island in the air apparently because we were about to reach the edge. I told them to hang on to my legs and that I could fly, I had a hard time flying with 2 people on me so we didn't get very far. Eventually we started falling down in between rocky mountains and we reached a place that was portruding from the mountain. There were people sitting there and there was a shop selling food and drinks, the people sitting there saw us flying in and helped us getting on the ridge. For some reason, maybe because of the heavy wind, we were still flying back and forth so they used rope to tie us down. Once we weren't moving anymore the removed the rope and we sat there. We learned they had magic powers like me, that's why I could fly. I was asking someone to teach me how to fly but he didn't want to. We sat around some, me and the guy and girl hugged and there the dream ended.

      Best flying expierience ever, best food ever (including real life) and best friendship ever, best view ever (including real life), which is why this was my best dream ever. The thing I most often do is sex and after that flying. This dream made me realize that the most fun things in dreams go in this order 1) closeness to dream characters, hugging, kissing, cuddling, just hanging around 2) flying 3) sex. Because of this realization I still had lots of girls in my dreams but it was more about kissing and cuddling than about sex, which is awesome The last couple of weeks I have been meditating once first thing in the morning and once before bed, each session taking about 20-30 minutes. This is probably what is causing this slow but really steady progress. I feel like if I keep going like this, remembering 2-3 dreams and at least 1 moment of lucidity every night is pretty likely :grin: I think I will keep meditating, because I like it. It is extremely powerful for clearing my mind, organizing my thoughts, summarizing the day, getting myself ready for bed. By silencing, clearing and organizing my mind like this I can really forget everything and focus on just dreaming. I think I am pretty close to being addicted to meditation because if I don't, the thoughts swirling in my head prevent me from even diving into a book, I couldn't possibly sleep like this. I feel like I have to meditate at night, in the morning it's more discipline though. I think progress on the violin would also be much slower if I didn't meditate, because this way I can review the things I have learned and confirm them once more in my head. So that the next day I can continue where I was withouth having to trace back my progress. If dreaming progress keeps going like this I will keep posting here. So teachers, I'm counting on you!

      And AstralMango, hi
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      Yesterday night I meditated 42 minutes and this morning 30. I'm looking forward to tonight's dream
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      Ginsan! That sounds like a really awesome dream. I can absolutely understand it is so inspiring.

      Well done keeping up with the meditation practice so often. Looking forward to reading about more such awesome dreams and lds in the future!
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      Thanks, I hope I can have more of these dreams to excite you with
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      I just did today's meditation. I tried to think a little bit about lucid dreaming during the meditation. "when you notice something strange, know that you are dreaming, don't forget to anchor yourself, observe, examine, touch, smell the dream. Notice how lifelike it is." I said things like that. I also just focused on the 'feeling' of a LD. I feel like LDs have a special feeling to them, I cant describe it but they have a clearly different feeling from them than real life. I hope that by meditating like this I will improve my awareness in LDs significantly. Good night
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      I feel like LDs have a special feeling to them, I cant describe it but they have a clearly different feeling from them than real life. I hope that by meditating like this I will improve my awareness
      You are right! Lds do feel differently. Sometimes everything can look normal as in waking life but there is this special feeling that one can only relate to dreams. I remember Kingyoshi also mentioned this as one of the 'areas' so to speak that develop as you ld more. No need to rc, you just know.

      Did you see the latest research by the way? It shows a relationship between mindfulness (they called it people who are better at thought monitoring) and lucidity:

      http://www.dreamviews.com/research/1...-dreamers.html
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      This morning I had a pretty long lucid dream, in my memory it feels like 15-20 minutes. Which is pretty good for me. But I didn't have the awareness of waking life. I kind of knew I could do more than normal. Next time I should remember to anchor the dream and increase my awareness. I think the way to do that is by slowing down, not getting excited and getting really observant. Looking around, thinking about what I could do, what I wanted to do, how to not waste the dream, feeling stuff, tasting stuff. Just examining the dream and not trying to enjoy it. I am going to meditate after this post and I'm going to try and put this idea of being observant in my head. I want to spend some serious time to learn to anchor my dream, I want to have a clear mind and be confident that my awareness won't fade away and that the dream will last at least 30 minutes in perceived time.

      Once I have that foundation I can really start doing crazy stuff. Like transforming! Maaaan, is there anything better than a solid transformation? I am amazed that the brain is even capable of simulating such detailed and convincing transformations. I'm talking about growing limbs, fur, wings. I read about somebody becoming a robot, he could feel the oil gushing through his body. Normally I fly with my body shaped as a pencil, moving through the air. It feels like I have a very unpredictable engine and barely a way to steer, moving through antigravity, I never felt real gravity. Only once or twice did I feel wind but it is still so much weaker than what a bird feels. I want to feel gravity, wind, get lifted a little bit with each flap of my wings, falling if I don't, diving down, gliding by stretching my wings... Imagine shapeshifting into a hawk, soaring across the sky, diving down to catch a fish, feeling splatters of water as you struggle to go up into the air, barely staying above the surface of the water for a few seconds with a fish in your claws. I can only barely imagine this feeling, that's why I want it so badly. I bet it would feel extremely liberating to not be in this clumsy body, but in the body of a bird or cat. Moving elegantly and beautifully.. This will be my guide Transformation guide

      Once I have that solid foundation I can try out so much awesome stuff. I would do all the monthly challenges on the day they come out, then the yearly challenges. When I'm done with those I will do the yearly challenges of all the previous years. I might make a request thread. Let people request things which I will then perform in a dream and tell them what it was like NyxCC, pray for me that my progress remains steady = D


      Alright, time for meditation


      PS: I'll probably also practice to get a strong DEILD skill, which I think would be very useful in prolonging total ld time
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      I have just joined Sensei's competition, this is getting exciting! The last 2 competitions were a year ago and they motivated me immensely and were loads of fun = D
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      I didn't meditate this morning, just like last morning and I didn't have anything interesting in my dreams, I barely even remembered them and I had no moment of lucidity. I have just meditated and I remembered this video

      So I did what he said. I made my breathing rythmical, smooth and even. Then I felt a much more intense kind of clarity and silence than usual. That simple trick made a giant difference. I breathed big and deep through my mouth, filling my lungs up without feeling uncomfortable. I'm going to meditate like this from now on.
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      Congrats on the long ld, Ginsan! You seem to be making awesome progress, keep it up! Your meditation sessions are surely of great help.
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