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      Nebulus's Workbook

      Reality Checks:
      Whenever I
      1) talk to someone I will RC - As I talk to people a lot in dreams
      2) Notice ive been thinking about work - As I have lots of work related dreams
      Check is to look to see if something changes i.e writing
      "Pause" as this is something that I never do in a non-lucid dream

      Dream Signs:
      Work/Hotel

      Short-Term Goals:
      *amended 30/8/16
      NEW 1) Focus on dream journalling - write in night and first thing in morning
      (my recall and interest in details has dropped a lot, I need to make this the focus
      also returning to work makes it something hopefully manageable)
      2) Decide on pre-sleep routine:
      including telling myself to wake after dreams during night to recall
      and do wbtb at aprox 3/4am AND DO IT PROPERLY
      3) Try WILDing and hypnogogic visions at nap once a day

      Long-Term Goals:
      Find a dream guide/fellow adventurer


      Lucid/Dream Recall History:
      Many years ago in a distant galaxy...I used to lucid dream but gave it up as irrelevant Oo (oh foolish youth)
      Past year i've started trying to get lucid again, and get a lucid that last a few seconds before I wake up approx once a month
      Recently I got my first journalled 3 lucids in a night that each lasted for the normal length of a dream
      I think this was caused by doing a WBTB properly, as per Patience's method (thanks oh water elemental).

      Current Technique:
      See above

      I want to keep a consistent pre-sleep technique but at the moment am not happy with the one I have as I feel there is something missing that is puzzling me.

      Also I am using the neurosky mindwave to improve my focus an am having fun with that. Very interested in watching my brainwaves ^^

      revised 24/10/16
      I have been trying ADA but work fogs things a lot as its so full on. I will try doing short blocks of ADA.


      New method for lucid. I have got lucid the past two times under the same conditions
      1) Have a nice stretch 5-hours of sleep
      2) WBTB at around 4-4.30am
      3) Get really pissed off at not being lucid
      4) Write in journal
      5) Chain of lucids tadarrrr!


      Also I want to practise daily hypnagogic earlier on in the evening, and maybe a little associated art.
      Last edited by Nebulus; 10-24-2016 at 10:43 AM.
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      Welcome to the class, Nebulus!

      How long have you been using Neurosky and which apps do you use? I have the mindwave mobile with apple apps.
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      Whoa cool! I didnt know if anyone used it, i have only been using a few days but am pleased my brain is getting better at producing the necessary brainwaves.
      i tried before with it a while back but initial problems with connectivity/battery life (now have rechargable AAA) and lack of enthusiasm from friends and family (most people did not believe it even was possible for it to pick up brainwave signals Oo)
      I use:
      Zenzone Reduce Stress - soothing and luv the concept. Perfect use of mindwave
      Mindsong - i like as I can just listen while I look at visualize app
      Sunlight - meditation on breath, really works well and tells you as soon as you start wandering off into thoughts
      Nebula - fantastic , clear your mind and listen to your brainwaves (i find visuals beautiful but distracting, music is wonderful however )
      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8evZzwtK9dQ
      Mindway - same as nebula but for focus, cool but frustrating as a noob

      Mind the Ant and Mind Tower defense game by same company I like but find the tower defence to hard for me at the moment but good idea for being focused under stress

      Btw I find it very interesting that the apps all work best if you stop thinking
      which is how dream control works best when lucid (correct me if im wrong)
      Also i tend to spend way to much time lost in thought so its all good for me.

      One point to note, i couldnt wear the headset for more than about an hour before i got a big mark on my forehead from the connection (which can be tempermental to say the least).
      So after messing about I now use a big folded bit of aluminum (kitchen) foil a few cms long and now this reduces the embarresment of a big mark on my head from using it
      Now i can wear for an hour or so fine.

      I also tried some other apps but found them not to my liking
      I really wanted one that would ping when i had brainwaves associated with dreaming or lucid dreaming.

      There are libraries you can download for making your own software might be a project for the future (interesting stuff on youtube already)
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      OMG! the posts on DV on mindwave led me to this discussion programme

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SObhSqYglvQ

      My idea to record the brain waves of someone lucid so they could be transferred to another human to make them lucid (but I think i've read this had already been done by scientists stimulating the frontal cortex of people in REM) totally small potatoes.
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      I got the Mindway and Nebula apps today and really like them. From all the stuff out there, they seem like they have the potential to really help you take control of your brainwaves. It's still early days but excited at the moment.

      Regarding the lucid brainwaves induction, yes, there is some research in that area altough we're far from consitently achieving results on reliable basis at this point. But I think if we learn to maintain those brainwaves - especially gamma brainwaves during daytime, there are probably going to be positive spillover effects in dreams.
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      I listened to a podcast today, I think it was sageous from way back when and it reminded me of the importance of journalling.
      He told a story about how his Aunty got regular lucid unintentionally just by focusing on journalling. So this is my new focus which I think is something I can actually do.
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      That's one way to approach induction indeed. Quite possible that by journalling on a frequent basis you're able to, so to speak, map your entire dream world and know what to expect in general. Browsing through one's entries and contemplating on dream contents can help you recognize re-ocurring themes in dreams and become lucid.
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      I'm going to change up my RC as they are too automatic and therefore not "Lucid" enough. I am going to set a goal each day to be aware of different things as LaBerge suggested.
      I thought as an interesting twist I would try different senses.
      i.e vision - Walking through doorways, hearing - sound of the wind, taste - ? food, touch - carpet underfoot , thoughts - fantasising
      probably sensible (pun intended) to start with two senses first or even one, but i'm not so sensible so I will try all.

      I'm interested in the underfoot as in dreams some people say you don't have feet?

      comments on anything or everything will be joyously received, thank you all
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      Sounds good Nebulus I use a little buzzer which I set to go off randomly to help me RC and RRC its called 'gym boss - miniMAX' I got it from Amazon - I think it helps me not forget for too long.

      Yes I try to do that aswell - using the senses and having some presence - it feels great todo

      Ssvasons dream yoga has some exersizes that I do to with the senses - there are with checking out!
      Last edited by Patience108; 09-17-2016 at 01:30 PM. Reason: Forgot something - am I dreaming ;)
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      I've been talking with smudgefish and he made me remember something. Before I didn't feel my pre-sleep mantra was working and thought i'd try a visualisation instead.
      My mind quite often does the exact opposite from what I want, mostly. So when I pre-sleep tried to visualise finding a dreamsign and getting lucid.
      It went ahead and removed all the usual dreamsigns from my dreams that night Oo !
      So the next night I tried implanting a dreamsign into my dreams, and said to myself/visualised seeing the sign (a silver triforce) and getting lucid.
      The silver triforce showed up but I didn't get lucid, nvm.
      But it made me think, when I do an RC of reminding myself that i'm in a dream I will also imagine the dreamsign I want.
      So i'll see it on the palm of my hand or whatever.
      And I will try again visualising seeing it and getting lucid pre-sleep.
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      Paying attention to sensory input is a good idea. Regarding feet, I have not noticed much difference between waking and dreaming, but these are my observations, your experiences might be different.

      Regarding any induction practice, I would say that the majority of them do work. The key point is trying each one for long enough in order to figure out which one resonates with you best. Hence, feel free to change them every once in a while, however, do try to stick to testing each one for a reasonable amount of time to allow for them to really sink in and for results to show.
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      I have been trying ADA but work fogs things a lot as its so full on. I will try doing short blocks of ADA.

      New method for lucid. I have got lucid the past two times under the same conditions
      1) Have a nice stretch 5-hours of sleep
      2) WBTB at around 4-4.30am
      3) Get really pissed off at not being lucid
      4) Write in journal
      5) Chain of lucids tadarrrr!

      Also I want to practise daily hypnagogic earlier on in the evening, and maybe a little associated art.
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      I think getting pissed off can be quite of a factor in becoming lucid. One remembers all that desire and disappointment in the dream, looks around and "Oh wait...I'm actually dreaming right now!"
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