Thread: Tell me who here is not a freaking druggie

aahaha logic is cool. but i guess it could be kind of misleading to say X cures Y because it's in relation to a whole combination of things pertaining to that individual. correlation not causation. even if morning glory seeds were to cure my depression that doesn't mean it would have the same effect on everybody. part of the effects for me are just reflecting on the causes and conditions behind how i have come into contact with the seed and then thanking it for what is does for me without asking for too much. with a living plant it's very very meaningful.

but in america we call that thanksgiving. fuck. here ya go kids! here's one day to realize that food is a drug and tryptophan could fuck you up if you took enough of it. anything could fuck you up if you took enough of it. so go back to sleep, forget about it, and buy our turkeys, work for us to raise the turkeys, wrap the turkeys, sell the turkeys... go back to sleep america, everything is being taken care of.

and to be honest, i think weed is kind of overused. i don't even feel a need to use it that often, although it's definitely a social thing from time to time.

makes me really fucking mad especially because of my partial native american heritage. wtf seriously.

i mean... this is why i'm depressed from time to time. it's because money and greed take the essence out of everything and then are put on a pedestal to refill the void. think about the aboriginees. they decided to stop reproducing because their children couldn't adjust to the white man's lifestyle. so they started huffing paint thinner, something that actually PHYSICALLY harms you.


wtf hasn't anybody read brave new world (or on a related note, seen the movie Idiocracy)? people hear "drug"... might as well be soma.



oh, and tommo - i feel the same way. i only used hawaiian baby woodrose to give it a try and take a light dose to see if it worked with me. that's the way to go. if i had been somewhere where i feel less comfortable, say, a city, that prob wouldn't have been quite so significant. you really have to respect the stuff. hbwr seeds are too hard to sprout, and with the smaller seeds i can feel better knowing that i can gauge the potential experience. i also like the plant better.

Originally Posted by A Roxxor

Depression is a psychological state, I doubt that he was physcially 'cured' that way.

As for Shrooms curing headaches: Lol?

Everything bayside said x2

It's a fact, they use psilocybin the active ingredient in shrooms to make the medicine for cluster headaches/migraines. Haven't you seen House? lol
But since that's not scientifically scrutinised....
http://www.miqel.com/clusterheadache...che_study.html
http://www.helpforheadaches.com/articles/psilocybin.htm

It's a proven fact those are just the first two things I picked off google.

And depression. What do you think psychotherapy does? It helps you find the reason you're depressed and correct it. Hallucinogenics do that in one night instead of 3 years. You can look that up yourself. Some doctors give t to patients with cancer and other patients who are close to death because it helps you get over the depression of it.

EDIT: Just watched Idiocracy then realised I'd seen it before lol.
That movie is so fucken good. The problem is people won't take anything out of it. The average person anyway.
It's like Futurama, The Simpsons, cartoons like that have INSANELY important messages, but if you watch it with the average person it is obvious they don't even understand a bit of it.
Makes me really sad.

Originally Posted by spockman

If a person play way too many video games to the point that thier life revolves around them, they're a jack-ass. Sorry. Video games do need to be moderated.

Anyway, I intend to drink when I'm of age but won't smoke or get high. I follow legal parameters on this one. Though a little bit of grass making you a slight druggie isn't as harmful as being a slight alcoholic...

I agree and disagree at the same time... Example: Video games alone aren't bad for you, but it's what you're NOT doing that makes it bad. I play video games with my friends and all and it's really fun, and I also play alone a lot too. I'm definately not a loner or antisocial...

You can say the same thing about skateboarders. How many do you know that aren't assholes? Not many, or just as many that play video games.

I don't think there's a difference between video games and any other hobby...

What I'm trying to say is you can do anything "to the point where your life revolves around it". There's nothing about video games that makes it special...

people create laws, they aren't absolute.

1. if instead of drinking the blood of christ (wine), christians smoked a joint, it would be legal. but no! more fun for the dudes to give little boys a drink. christianity is pretty close to a law in america.

2. if you rely on external laws rather than your own morals to regulate your lifestyle then... well, sucks for you.

Originally Posted by cygnus

people create laws, they aren't absolute.

1. if instead of drinking the blood of christ (wine), christians smoked a joint, it would be legal. but no! more fun for the dudes to give little boys a drink. christianity is pretty close to a law in america.

2. if you rely on external laws rather than your own morals to regulate your lifestyle then... well, sucks for you.

Couldn't agree with you more there, man.

Same. Doesn't America have a constitution/amendment or whatever? I think it's that anyway lol
Separation of church and state?
God, the politicians talk about being pro-American, patriotic. They ignore the writings of the founding fathers.

And it's spreading. Just last week I heard KRudd say, when a reporter asked him what he is doing to help (can't remember what the situation was, probably the recent slaughters) "Well, I prayed. I hope that helps". That's almost a joke. It sounds like a joke.... is it? I hope so. We don't even have the separation of church and state and I feel the entire country is being mocked.

WAKE UP!

on paper there is lol

is what?

"lol" of course

Originally Posted by Abra

How so? Before or after ingestion?

Originally Posted by Ryuinfinity

Um... So you are basically saying that people just make themselves high by the placebo effect when they smoke pot? Riiiiiiiiiiiiight...

Sorry I haven't seen these posts until now...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endocannabinoid_system
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endocan...docannabinoids

Originally Posted by Elis D.

"lol" of course

hehe, good one!

Originally Posted by Elis D.

Sorry I haven't seen these posts until now...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endocannabinoid_system
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endocan...docannabinoids

If you spin it that way, all drugs are just placebos. They just send messages to our brains to enduce certain chemical patterns.

That's the exact definition of not-placebo.
Moron

Originally Posted by A Roxxor

Dumbasses.

Originally Posted by tommo

Moron

Try to be a bit more mature, eh guys? Ease up on the personal attacks.

Originally Posted by tommo

That's the exact definition of not-placebo.
Moron

-_-

I was responsing to Elis D, hence I quoted him, not you. Please, if you're going to talk to me then keep in mind nearly nothing I say is meant to be taken literally.

And if that's the opposite of a placebo, then define placebo, when we take a drug and send chemicals to our brain not contained in the drug? Because I don't see how that contradicts what I said.

I don't really care who you were responding to. I was having my input.
This is a public forum.

Placebo doesn't send any message to your brain, except a sugar high maybe. But I think they're mostly water. So yeah.
You didn't say "send chemicals to our brain not contained in the drug"
You said "They just send messages to our brains to enduce certain chemical patterns."
Completely different. The point of placebo is not to send any chemicals.

Guys get to this site and vote http://change.gov/page/content/openf...tions20081229/

They ask Obama whichever questions get the most votes. Marijuana decriminalisation is at the top of the Additional Issues section on the right. VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE!
Also you can add more questions if you want. I put one in Healthcare and one in Education about medical benefits and drug education over just say no, respectively.

PEACE!

i haven't read a lot fo the pages in this already long thread, but here goes:

i'm almost 19. I've tried alcohol a couple fo times, and i've never liked it. I really WANTED TO LIKE IT just so i could have something to do at all these parties.. .but never have, and at this point, I just really don't want to. Even if i DON'T get completely smashed... the way a lot of people do.

Refuse to do pot or cigs. I have friends who do pot occasionally, and I'm always just like "Don't do anything stupid, and don't tell me that you're doing it- the end."

So yeah.. I'm pretty drug free, and my credo is that other people just should not try to convince me otherwise because, frankly, they have no argument!

"If you really want to do it, go ahead. I don't, so don't ask me."

I have never tried drugs or cigarettes.

My parents both drink a lot, so yeah, sometimes I`ll have a beer or a sip of rum and coke, but I've never been drunk before.

I tried most things. Realised that this whole right now life thing is a more extreme trip than any of that. To the immense disappointment of most people I know.

Its sad actually, a couple of my old friends are now hooked on heroine living in Paris.

Originally Posted by Abra

I don't allow myself to be influenced easily by sentients of my own species.

That so?

Originally Posted by Omicron

That so?

..

I don't allow myself to be influenced easily by sentients of my own species.

It doesn't really make sense either Abra.

Originally Posted by tommo

It doesn't really make sense either Abra.

wat

How doesn't it?

1. Conscious or aware.
2. Experiencing sensation or feeling

But I'm drunk, so enlighten me.
That's the definition of sentient btw, could c+p properly.