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I see, too bad about the wristbands.. though if you can make a good one for the ipod, id buy it
Looking forward to this, shall update to ios 5 later and download that bio2real
On a side note I just slipped my ipod down the sleeve of my jumper and was quite a nice and comfortable fit, maybe if you cut a sleeve off and had it elasticated at the ends it might be good.. rather than plastic straps all around your wrist, just an idea, plus i dont know what your latest prototype is

Originally Posted by Emiko

*loves* That Android app splash screen is the cleverest and most adorable thing ever.

I haven't seen the app, but is it something to do with binary code, but then there's a 2 in there?
Like an RC moment? Very clever

If you have 2 straps of velcro, you may be able to wrap them around an iPod in a long sleeved shirt, creating a sort of a makeshift holder. You won't be able to interact with the screen though.

Regarding the wristband - it does not have sensors. The iPhone itself is a sensor, it just needs to be kept in the proper position at night.

Tonight the app played only 1 reminder, during one of the dreams that I did not wake up from. It has delivered the reminder at a decent time, not perfect, but good enough.

I remember suddenly seeing my iphone within it's case. I have somehow broke it in my hands by folding it along its center axis. It kinda folded in two, but was still working. I could not see the screen very clearly (this is my current lucid task), but I was very aware of the crack along the middle and became worried about that. The dream continued with me thinking of what I would do, how I would exchange the phone, etc.

My guess is that this sudden appearance of the phone within the dream was caused by the reminder being integrated into the content of the dream, because the phone used 2 vibration sequences as a part of the reminder.

I think the app is getting ready to a small beta test. It takes me a lot of time to manage the beta test, so I'm asking for 3 serious volunteers to help test the app. You will be using the app and collecting the data. I'm asking for at least a week of day to day use commitment. As a perk for your participation, I'll analyze your sleep graphs and create a custom-tuned algorithm for each one of you. Please PM me if interested.

But isn't a sine wave just a mathematically generated wave. (Sine wave looks the same as a 'normal' evenly oscillating wave.)
Great data though.

I've just come across something which MAY pose a problem.

I was wondering how the iPod Touch can be so much cheaper, if it just differs by not having phone capabilities. So I decided to find the processing power and RAM etc. as it's not mentioned on the Apple website.

I'm not sure if this would matter, coz I don't know how much processing power your app needs.

iPod Touch 4th Generation Teardown - Page 3 - iFixit

It only has 256MB of RAM. The iPhone 4 has 512MB.
And it has the same processor as the iPad, first gen - 1GHz I think.

Originally Posted by Ev

if you have an iPod, can you tell me if you can run this app? Bio2Real Time for iPhone 3GS, iPhone 4, iPhone 4S, iPod touch (3rd generation), iPod touch (4th generation) and iPad on the iTunes App Store it uses the same development settings as the lucid dreaming app.

Seems to work okay on my ipod. 4th gen with ios5.

I present to you:

the worlds first dream recording made with the Lucid Dreaming App. I don't know if this is important or not. Looks beautiful though.

This is a scatter plot in frequency domain



Now this thing is making a lot more sense!

I present to you, one of my dreams as a plot of real versus imaginary!

Uh oh, and as geniuses have before him, Ev has gone off the deep end....

Interesting app, I think I'll have to check it out, and maybe invest in an armband.

Originally Posted by tommo

I haven't seen the app, but is it something to do with binary code, but then there's a 2 in there?
Like an RC moment? Very clever

Yes, that's it exactly. In the lower right corner of the splash screen is one of the little green Android robot mascots. He has his eyes closed, and there's a dream balloon coming out of his head (you know, like a speech bubble, but it shows what the character is dreaming about). Within the dream bubble are two of the Android mascots. The one on the left (a DC) is saying "01102011," and the one on the right (the dreamer) has a big "!!!" above his head.

Ev. You create the best things.



Seriously though, your apps and what not have been super helpful in the progress of lucid dreaming ^__^ kudos!

Originally Posted by Ev

I present to you:

the worlds first dream recording made with the Lucid Dreaming App. I don't know if this is important or not. Looks beautiful though.

This is a scatter plot in frequency domain



Now this thing is making a lot more sense!

Oh shit, it's a a double helix.
My brain just broke.

Originally Posted by Ctharlhie

Oh shit, it's a a double helix.
My brain just broke.

hehe, I was gonna say that too. But I don't know if Ev is just trying to trip us out here or not lol

"My brain just broke" kinda describes how I felt when I noticed this. This is Fourier Transform of the activity that I was investigating. This is a 1024 second segment just before awakening from a dream. Normally, I would expect this to be a sum different sine waves, an amplitude and a phase, like this : A*sin(w*t) where A is amplitude and w is frequency. What i'm seeing is a sum of different helixes within frequency domain. It puzzles me quite a lot.

If I understand math correctly, the imaginary numbers (square root of -1) have been invented to allow for the signal to "disappear" from the real world, and predictably continue in the imaginary world. Then it can be calculated when the signal would return. This is fine for the real world. The fourier transform already accounts for the imaginary world, so for the signal to disappear from that world, there needs to be another "imaginary" world...

*pretends to understand and nods*

As other have said, if I had the means I would buy an iPhone for this.

I'll limit the discussion of the consciousness applications of this app to the Research section. For now, let me show you the results of the data processed by the app. Up until now graphs have been created in Excel. This is the result of the detection algorithms implemented within the app! The app can see this data in real time.

I slept too deeply last night due to a bunch of supplements. The app played one reminder, but since I don't remember any dreams from the last night, i cannot verify the effectiveness.

Tonight the app created a beautiful sleep cycle graph! It looked so much like the yesterday's graph, that I had to re-check just to make sure. The component that marks when the reminder got played broke, so I don't know if the app played any reminders. The graph tells me that it must've done so. I remember one dream, which was world war 2 themed. Suddenly a secret agent pulled out a black laptop, which was totally out of place for the setting and started to receive a morse/voice communication from someone. I clearly thought that such technology was out of place, but did not get lucid.

If you spontaneously became lucid on your own, would the app be able to track it? So you'd be able to see what time it was, which cycle, and all kinds of other bits of juicy data like that.

Originally Posted by Ev

If I understand math correctly, the imaginary numbers (square root of -1) have been invented to allow for the signal to "disappear" from the real world, and predictably continue in the imaginary world. Then it can be calculated when the signal would return. This is fine for the real world. The fourier transform already accounts for the imaginary world, so for the signal to disappear from that world, there needs to be another "imaginary" world...

Noone understands math correctly That aside, another imaginary world? That's an interesting concept. I assume this could account for an OBE or even multiple/parallel realities. However if it's measuring multiple/parallel realities, I would assume there would be a higher number of these occurances. Interesting, keep pushing.

Oh, man, PLEASE tell me I can get this app for my pc! Heck, I'll even buy a USB attachment if I can just get this for my computer...

Originally Posted by Ev

Suddenly a secret agent pulled out a black laptop, which was totally out of place for the setting and started to receive a morse/voice communication from someone. I clearly thought that such technology was out of place, but did not get lucid.

Ha! You must have read this:

Originally Posted by IAmCoder

one of my next hacks will be to blink a Morse Code or perhaps binary sequence that automatically transcribes in real time to: "F1RST P0ST!!" from within a dream.