Thread: Singularity Experience, a professional iPhone app for Lucid Dreamers

So I've been using this app for the past week or so and it does what its supposed to however whenever it plays the reminder and I try to do the deild I always end up knocking out. I dont move when i wake up and i do the whole visualization, but next thing I know I'm waking up to a new reminder.

Can anyone tell me what it is they do exactly after the reminder plays?

This would be a batter question for the WILD sub-forum. But, basically you need to get up for longer.
Everyone differs in the amount of time they need to be up for. You just need to find your amount.
For example, I only need to stay up for about 5 minutes. I usually just practice awareness and do a few reality checks, and then
go back to sleep while maintaining awareness.

If you need more advice, either PM me or go ask the same question in the WILD subforum here Wake Initiated Lucid Dreams (WILD)
Coz we don't want to derail this thread

Tommo, thank you for the sleep graphs, they look really good! The blue lines show when the app would be playing the reminder, which is before the dream awakening!

As for the DEILD, this method requires you to awaken, stay still and fall back asleep. it is in WBTB that you need to get out of bed and stay up for some time.

There are a couple tutorials on DEILD around here, but I'm having the same trouble as you - the reminders played during a dream are not intense enough to fully awaken me, and the ones that I do hear are not played during a vivid dream.

The version 1.3 of the app will include an ability to schedule reality checks throughout the day. You can add them to the clock dial, and the reality checks will follow your bedtime pattern - if you go to sleep later, the reality checks will be played later in the day, etc.


Here's a screenshot of what it may look like:

That's a great new feature! I imagine it would help since, I think, the body is always following similar patterns during the day and night. So this may make the reminders at night even more effective, even if you don't wake up Maybe, just a guess though hehe

Have you had a lot of purchases of the app yet, Ev?

Originally Posted by tommo

Have you had a lot of purchases of the app yet, Ev?

He has my purchase today

I don't know why, but that makes me so happy! lol
I think it's just knowing that more people are going to see how great it is.
Sounds weird, I don't even understand that myself lol
Report back how it goes!

I woke up to my regular alarm and rolled over to check my iphone and it had gone! I had moved it to the bedside table at some point. I used beginner mode with the DEILD setting. I think it must have issued a reminder and I moved the phone, but can't remember doing so. I looked at the graph and I moved it about four hours after going to sleep. I am going to record my voice saying, 'Dont Move' several times and then hook it up to some speakers so it will be loud enough to wake me and enable me to stay still.

Would it be too much to ask for an android version?

I had a great experience last night. I was in quite an invigorating dream. I didn't expect the default tune on beginner mode to wake me, but it did. I awoke from the dream immediately it started playing and I automatically remained completely motionless & kept my eyes shut. Thankfully my body was in a comfortable position. I have never been able to re-enter a dream by visualising the dream I have just exited from. But as this wasn't the natural end of the dream but an awakening from it, with such a clear memory and connection to the dream, I did try a traditional DEILD. After a minute or so I gave up. I did start to experience mild vibrations so I tried Nina's method to use the vibrations to produce dream images but that didn't work either. I then felt my astral body wobble slightly and then felt as if a broom handle had been poked into my back. My astral body was clearly loose or lossening from my body so I attempted to separate from my body. I wasn't able to and as two to three minutes had passed I decided to go back to sleep and wait for the next opportunity. I then woke to my daily wake-up alarm and checked my sleep graph. Unfortunately it was completely blank. Can you advise please Ev.

Also Ev, it seems to me that the Gentle & DEILD mode settings are exactly the same in beginner mode. Can you explain the difference please?

Tonght if I get a repeat of such a seamless awakening from a dream Im just going to use Michael Raduga's Indirect Techniques.

Originally Posted by mcwillis

I then woke to my daily wake-up alarm and checked my sleep graph. Unfortunately it was completely blank. Can you advise please Ev.

Also Ev, it seems to me that the Gentle & DEILD mode settings are exactly the same in beginner mode. Can you explain the difference please?

The sleep graph may be blank if you started and re-started the app. It expects only one run of the app per night.

The gentle mode always plays blue light reminder for 12 seconds. With the DEILD mode, you can customize the reminder to use different color or duration by tapping on the first marker clockwise after the black one on the singularity screen.

Today I had a really cool experience with the app. I woke up from a long and intense dream with a really involved story and good level of control. When I started to write down the dream, I brought up my phone to use it as a light to write in a dream journal. Something did not feel right and I checked the digital bedside clock, which blanked out. I was having a false awakening, and the phone was still on my arm. It was shining light, which was reflected on paper.

Then I checked the app, which showed a different interface, instantly letting me know that I was dreaming. The dream ended a few seconds later, but the realization of that was really cool.

Ev, (sorry for Off Topic) you orig mentioned DEILD, whats the best post somewhere for learning this? I dont have Iphone (dont want to pay for Serv for it) so i would have to learn it without the app. I usually just DILD but am looking for an Expansion of that. I HATE all the Complex ILD's . Simplicity is for me. Also, i have issues w Hunter Mode and am trying to resolve that w Non-Induction but have failed so far. Your research is always helpful...Thanks !

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Putting in my request for an Android version as well.

I think he's working it. Although I may be wrong.

Originally Posted by ohaimax

Ev, (sorry for Off Topic) you orig mentioned DEILD, whats the best post somewhere for learning this? I dont have Iphone (dont want to pay for Serv for it) so i would have to learn it without the app. I usually just DILD but am looking for an Expansion of that. I HATE all the Complex ILD's . Simplicity is for me. Also, i have issues w Hunter Mode and am trying to resolve that w Non-Induction but have failed so far. Your research is always helpful...Thanks !

Here are tutorials on the dream reentry.
DEILD Tutorial - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views

Dream Reentry Tutorial - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views


As for the Android, I have an API from Zeo and may put together an update to work with that for the Android app. The android app would use the Zeo EEG headband to detect REM sleep, then play a reminder when rem sleep is detected.
Here's the current version of the Android app: https://market.android.com/details?i...eamingapp.beta

I will probably release the update v0.8 for the Android app this weekend after testing:
Android app update v0.8 - Lucid Dreaming App » Lucid Dreaming App

Awesome thanks man!!

Hey Ev! Really like your vision and enthusiasm towards this project and I also really like the name, quiet catchy actually I do however have some concerns. I didn't read all the instructions and explanations but here's what I think. If you really wanna take this app mainstream, in my opinion, you need to make it more simple. Generally most people wouldn't care about a feature like the astro-biological clock. To them that's just something new they have to learn. Why would the average user care when your body starts releasing melatonin? Sure this is a great feature for lucid dreaming geeks like us, but I believe the more simple you make this app, the more success it will have and the more people will buy it. You had a really good idea with making a beginners mode, I would even take that a step further and make that the default mode of the app with any additional features hidden in the options. The people who actually care about them will find them nevertheless...

Originally Posted by Marsupilama

Hey Ev! Really like your vision and enthusiasm towards this project and I also really like the name, quiet catchy actually I do however have some concerns. I didn't read all the instructions and explanations but here's what I think. If you really wanna take this app mainstream, in my opinion, you need to make it more simple. Generally most people wouldn't care about a feature like the astro-biological clock. To them that's just something new they have to learn. Why would the average user care when your body starts releasing melatonin? Sure this is a great feature for lucid dreaming geeks like us, but I believe the more simple you make this app, the more success it will have and the more people will buy it. You had a really good idea with making a beginners mode, I would even take that a step further and make that the default mode of the app with any additional features hidden in the options. The people who actually care about them will find them nevertheless...

Thank you for the feedback! I appreciate you taking time to write that.

The current app is very complex, because it is a research app. I do not have a sleep lab available to me, and I have to use the app for research and development. It outputs quite a lot of data to help understand the sleep pattern. Best of all is that the app is capable of predicting when dreaming would happen.

This is the first part of the puzzle: understanding when dreaming happens. I'd say it has been resolved decently well.

The second part to the puzzle is understanding how the brain responds to outside cues. I do not have a sleep lab, and neither do you. I hope that by looking at the data, at some point someone will be able to understand how to influence the mind during dreaming. This is where all the customization comes in. Maybe something works while other stuff does not.

Until I understand how to influence the person's mind with an external cue and when I should do it, the app should stay as a low profile niche thing. The general public wants a single button app. I don't know how to make one yet.

That makes a lot of sense. I was thinking the same thing as marsupiliama when I first started using it as well.
That's a perfect explanation.

Have you thought about letting users upload their graphs to your website or something?
It may help the research along to have a lot of data to choose from. Or maybe we could have a thread on DV to upload them to.