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      Binaural Beats definitely helps Lucid Dreaming.

      Last night I chose not to use binaural beats. I ended up having a brief lucid dream. It was not as long or as good as when I do use them. In fact, I wasn't even thrilled. I use beats to help Lucid Dreaming, Astral Projection, and OBEs. When I lucid dream using the beats, I have longer, more vivid lucid dreams and I always come close to astral projecting. So you folks that were wondering if Binaural Beats actually work, they do in a way. They help increase the chances and change the outcome. Based on my experiences, if you put in work, listen to them multiple days/nights and still follow through with whatever techniques you like to use, they will definitley help. Now that I have had a LD both with and without the Binaural beats, I can say I definitley would rather use them. If anyone is interested I can link you to my Youtube page I have over 35 beats most of them over an hour long. Anyone else have any experiences with Binaural Beats they'd like to share???
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      Definitely binaural beats do help! I used to use them myself, and they increased the frequency and intensity of the experience.

      Lately though, I'm usin isochronic tones instead of binaural beats. It's a more powerful form of brainwave entrainment technology that doesn't require headphones, which is great since I hated going to sleep with headphones on, and earbuds don't really give the same effect. Actually I'm pretty obsessed with isochronic tones now lol, as you can see from my username. I even made a website about them (check my profile for a link), which I'm busily working at now getting all the relevant information out there.

      The only downside is that a lot of people are fooled by the so-called "free" binaural beats and isochronic tones. Yeah, there are some legit ones out there, but there's also a lot of people who are not scientists and are ignorant of the basic principles these technologies work on who put all sorts of stuff on youtube and other sites to make a buck or get some popularity that doesn't really work and makes people think that these things are bogus when they're really not. Binaural beats and isochronic tones are like everything else, you get what you pay for.

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      Well, I went through a binaural beats phase, using the ones on idoser for recreational purposes. Isochronic tones seem much, much more effective though.
      Free ones can be very good! There's an Alpha isochronic tone on YouTube by user Mindfrolic, which has rain as a background. It makes me ridiculously relaxed within minutes, as if tranquilized. This would definitely benefit a WILD attempt.
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      Thats awesome im gonna have to look into that
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      Quote Originally Posted by IsochronicBeats View Post
      Definitely binaural beats do help! I used to use them myself, and they increased the frequency and intensity of the experience.

      Lately though, I'm usin isochronic tones instead of binaural beats. It's a more powerful form of brainwave entrainment technology that doesn't require headphones, which is great since I hated going to sleep with headphones on, and earbuds don't really give the same effect. Actually I'm pretty obsessed with isochronic tones now lol, as you can see from my username. I even made a website about them (check my profile for a link), which I'm busily working at now getting all the relevant information out there.

      The only downside is that a lot of people are fooled by the so-called "free" binaural beats and isochronic tones. Yeah, there are some legit ones out there, but there's also a lot of people who are not scientists and are ignorant of the basic principles these technologies work on who put all sorts of stuff on youtube and other sites to make a buck or get some popularity that doesn't really work and makes people think that these things are bogus when they're really not. Binaural beats and isochronic tones are like everything else, you get what you pay for.
      So I looked at my playlist. Turns out all the songs I have are a mix of binaural beats and isochronic tones. The ones that are mixed are the ones that work real well for me.
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      I've tried using binaurals/isochronics before, but it's so hard to fall asleep with headphones unless I'm so tired that I'm about to pass out. I've tried a few that have affirmations, but they require you to fall asleep within ten minutes. I'd love to have a look at your videos, though.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Pinkey209 View Post
      So I looked at my playlist. Turns out all the songs I have are a mix of binaural beats and isochronic tones. The ones that are mixed are the ones that work real well for me.
      That's what some of the software that I use to create my sessions does, uses a mixture. A lot of times I prefer to just have the isochronic tones, because they don't really clash with the background music so it doesn't jolt my ears.

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      How loud do you usually play them at? Just enough to preceive it, or at a normal level you might listen to music at?

      I have no issues sleeping with earbuds as i generally use with rain, or peaceful sounding music to block sound and help relax.

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      Well, the software I use allows me to set different volumes for the tones and the mp3 accompaniment, so what I usually do is to play just the tone and adjust to where it's a low volume but still audible, then I'll set whatever music or ambience I'm playing with it at a normal volume.

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      I think it's all personal. They may work for some people. not work for others. They don't work for me, but I think it's a placebo, and I just don't think they work

      However, as I said, everybody's different!

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      Try this one without looking at the visuals.
      Only one to work on me out of hundreds that I have tried.
      Would not mind that link to your list.
      Also, which one you think works best for you.

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      Quote Originally Posted by TimeDragon97 View Post
      I've tried using binaurals/isochronics before, but it's so hard to fall asleep with headphones unless I'm so tired that I'm about to pass out. I've tried a few that have affirmations, but they require you to fall asleep within ten minutes. I'd love to have a look at your videos, though.
      Toast Addict, I play mine without headphones. And I play it at normal level: loud enough to hear it no matter how you sleep but soft enough for it not to keep me awake.

      Time Dragon, here is a link to my playlist on youtube where all my beats I listen to are: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXAA9...eature=mh_lolz
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      Quote Originally Posted by realdealmagic View Post
      I think it's all personal. They may work for some people. not work for others. They don't work for me, but I think it's a placebo, and I just don't think they work

      However, as I said, everybody's different!
      Even in the scientific studies, they're only significantly effective on 83% of people. They are most definitely not a placebo, and I can provide over 2 dozen scientific studies backing that up. The problem is that the vast majority of the free ones out there are crap made by people who just wanna cash in on the popularity. That's one of the reasons I started my website about them is to give people the real scoop. There's some links to legitimate products on the website in my profile, all of which have either free samples or trial versions of their software. I would recommend trying one of them out and see if you still think they don't work. Also, keep in mind that trying to do things that require a lot of active concentration at the same time as trying to do brainwave entrainment reduces the effectiveness a great deal.
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      Thx for the link Pinkey209, I'll check these out later today.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Pinkey209 View Post
      Time Dragon, here is a link to my playlist on youtube where all my beats I listen to are: R.E.M. & Lucid Dream Enhancement - YouTube
      Lol, I've actually tried the first video before. Thanks!
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      No Problem guys Im glad I could help. I hope you guys like it it took me a week to make that list as good as can be hahaha.
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      I did once try the binaural beats for lucid dreaming for a couple of days. It kind of help at the begining but when the dream started, i heard the voice from the audio and instead of gaining lucidity my dream started to collapse. why is this?? you may have the answer

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      Quote Originally Posted by Rashni View Post
      I did once try the binaural beats for lucid dreaming for a couple of days. It kind of help at the begining but when the dream started, i heard the voice from the audio and instead of gaining lucidity my dream started to collapse. why is this?? you may have the answer
      Common problem with the binaural beats out there really. People think taking a binaural beat and sticking some music on top of it is all you need to do, but most of the time the music ends up limiting or eliminating the effectiveness of the beat. Try using a pure binaural beat or getting professional software that allows you to customize your own session to what works for you.

      Quote Originally Posted by Pinkey209 View Post
      No Problem guys Im glad I could help. I hope you guys like it it took me a week to make that list as good as can be hahaha.
      It's definitely one of the better lists out there. I got so frustrated with binaural beats on youtube because most of them are fakes by people who nothing and just wanna gain some popularity or sell some bogus tracks, but some of the ones on your list are pretty legit. I just wish there was an easier way to tell the real stuff from the fake on youtube.
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      Yeah I agree pure beats are the best. any beats with talking, music, or ambient sounds ruin everything for me. Just find ones that are pure. And good quality some are quiet and sound crappy.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Pinkey209 View Post
      Yeah I agree pure beats are the best. any beats with talking, music, or ambient sounds ruin everything for me. Just find ones that are pure. And good quality some are quiet and sound crappy.
      Yeah, but the volume isn't everything. It still produces the same results in your brain, as long as your ears are picking up the sound, then you're alright. In fact, some of the most powerful ones I've come across I've barely been able to hear, and I think it's because my brain is doing extra work to pick up the sounds, so they have a bigger impact. Course, I haven't got any research to back that up, just my opinion

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      I'm guessing you use a theta frequency, correct? 5hz has given me the best result, but everybody's different.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Tradl3s View Post
      I'm guessing you use a theta frequency, correct? 5hz has given me the best result, but everybody's different.
      I actually use a progression of frequencies to achieve lucid dreaming. I have some pretty awesome professional (yet not super expensive!) software that allows integration with biofeedback devices, so I spent a while tinkering with what made my brain do what, and what kind of effect I had.

      I'm actually writing an article for the site now about how to achieve lucid dreaming by using progressive frequency changes, but it's taking a while because I'm having trouble finding free resources to give my readers that will cover every step of the process. It's hard to find genuine stuff for free, especially at specific frequencies. Too many people using Gnaural to put a bunch of useless crap out there.

      But anyway, what I've found works for most people (and this is just generalizing) is to start with a 10.5Hz frequency for approximately 6 minutes. This will get people into a relaxed but alert state. Then drop to a 10Hz frequency for 9 minutes. At this point, the body and mind will be relaxed and serotonin levels will be elevated, so some people might start to feel euphoric. After that, an 8.3Hz frequency for another 5 minutes, during which you're encouraged to visualize mental objects you'd like to appear in the LD.

      That's the alpha stage, and should last 20min. Then the progression moves on to the theta wave stage.

      The next step is either a 7Hz or 6.3Hz, depending on which one the person responds to better. This should last for another 5 minutes. Then either a 5Hz or 4.5Hz frequency for as long as the person wants to continue should result in lucid dreaming. I've had better luck and more consistency at 4.5Hz, but some people do just fine at 5.

      Anyway, sorry for the really long reply, but that's just a general overview. There are actually even more frequencies to achieve it faster once the brain becomes used to the process, and there's a lot of reasoning and research that I've put into coming up with even this basic system, and I can safely say it's pretty effective.

      Now you can see why I have a problem finding free stuff that fits the bill to put in my article haha. You can't just go download a free tone generator and expect to put in a couple of numbers and come up with a track you can pop on youtube and that's that. The reason so many of the ones already there are ineffective is because people just simply don't know what they're doing. I'm talking with a guy at the company I got my software from and trying to work out a deal about maybe exporting a custom session to a track that I could offer, but they're hesitant because they don't want a bunch of other people coming back to them and asking for free handouts.

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      Thats a really good way to look at it but for me it doesnt help me if the volume is too low. And I also use a few different frequencies.
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