Attempt #1: Took it 4-5h after sleep. Impossible to fall asleep. Feeling full of energy. |
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So I've decided to go back to trying supplements to aid in re-kickstarting my LD practice. I took 4mg galantamine last night with 300mg of AlphaGPC at 4 hours, with the anticipation that I would hit my main dreaming period of about 5-6 hours when the AlphaGPC was hitting peak plasma. It was a small dose (I generally only take 4mg galantamine but usually more choline), and I didn't get lucid, but I did have vivid, memorable, fairly long dreams for the remainder of the night, with good recall that survived across several wakings. Most importantly, I *got back to sleep* in a reasonable time. I was worried at first since it looked like it was going to be another insomnia period at first, but it was early enough in the night, and I took my sleep-supporting Huberman cocktail (not full strength, but enough to help with returning to sleep), that plus relaxation got me back to sleep in probably 30 minutes. |
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FryingMan's Unified Theory of Lucid Dreaming: Pay Attention, Reflect, Recall -- Both Day and Night[link]
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Attempt #1: Took it 4-5h after sleep. Impossible to fall asleep. Feeling full of energy. |
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How much did you take? Did you take it with anything else? (Usually for best effect you need a short and a longer-term acting choline, e.g. shorter acting: choline bitartrate, e.g., longer: Alpha GPC |
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FryingMan's Unified Theory of Lucid Dreaming: Pay Attention, Reflect, Recall -- Both Day and Night[link]
FryingMan's Dream Recall Tips -- Awesome Links
“No amount of security is worth the suffering of a mediocre life chained to a routine that has killed your dreams.”
"...develop stability in awareness and your dreams will change in extraordinary ways" -- TYoDaS
I took 6mg of Galantamine (choline and alpha gpc are coming soon). I cant take less cos the capsule is a powder one and it would be very messy to open it... |
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The night after attempt #1. |
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Please continue, the more the merrier! |
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FryingMan's Unified Theory of Lucid Dreaming: Pay Attention, Reflect, Recall -- Both Day and Night[link]
FryingMan's Dream Recall Tips -- Awesome Links
“No amount of security is worth the suffering of a mediocre life chained to a routine that has killed your dreams.”
"...develop stability in awareness and your dreams will change in extraordinary ways" -- TYoDaS
Attempt #2 I woke up after 4 hours of sleep and took the pill and went back to sleep. |
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I almost never have false awakenings, and those rare times when I do, it's never in my real location, always a pure dream location, that I remember. I got FAs more often when in the middle of intense LD practice. So I hope to be generating them a lot more in the near future! |
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FryingMan's Unified Theory of Lucid Dreaming: Pay Attention, Reflect, Recall -- Both Day and Night[link]
FryingMan's Dream Recall Tips -- Awesome Links
“No amount of security is worth the suffering of a mediocre life chained to a routine that has killed your dreams.”
"...develop stability in awareness and your dreams will change in extraordinary ways" -- TYoDaS
I was following the instructions from the book. It says: |
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FryingMan's Unified Theory of Lucid Dreaming: Pay Attention, Reflect, Recall -- Both Day and Night[link]
FryingMan's Dream Recall Tips -- Awesome Links
“No amount of security is worth the suffering of a mediocre life chained to a routine that has killed your dreams.”
"...develop stability in awareness and your dreams will change in extraordinary ways" -- TYoDaS
Attempt #3: 2 short sexual lucid dreams and multiple half lucid and movie like dreams. |
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Attempt #2 -- long, vivid, stable, super high res, "more real than waking," epic LD. |
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FryingMan's Unified Theory of Lucid Dreaming: Pay Attention, Reflect, Recall -- Both Day and Night[link]
FryingMan's Dream Recall Tips -- Awesome Links
“No amount of security is worth the suffering of a mediocre life chained to a routine that has killed your dreams.”
"...develop stability in awareness and your dreams will change in extraordinary ways" -- TYoDaS
WoW, good job! When did you go to bed and how long have you slept before wbtb and taking supplements? |
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FryingMan's Unified Theory of Lucid Dreaming: Pay Attention, Reflect, Recall -- Both Day and Night[link]
FryingMan's Dream Recall Tips -- Awesome Links
“No amount of security is worth the suffering of a mediocre life chained to a routine that has killed your dreams.”
"...develop stability in awareness and your dreams will change in extraordinary ways" -- TYoDaS
I took galantamine for the first time a week or two ago. That was at bedtime, but I was having trouble sleeping so I ended up taking melatonin too. Still, I had one or two dreams that were unusually engaging - I would say vivid, but I often have vivid dreams, I think. But these were more emotionally engaging, one or two being nightmarish, which is unusual for me too. So I tried again last night during a WBTB. The following hours ended up being quite a trip. My recall is a bit fuzzy for some reason, but it seems like I was drifting in and out of lucidity and having dream adventures for quite a while. Anyway, I think it broke my lucid dry spell. |
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While galantamine takes 48 hours to clear out, it's recommended not to take it more frequently than once every 4 days. Still, it's best taken at WBTB, because the peak plasma effects are pretty quick, within a window of a few hours. I've tried it at bedtime and it didn't seem to do much. Also, it's the peak plasma time of the choline sources that may also be the key, and those are in a pretty narrow window of a couple hours tops. One could supposedly take the galantamine at bedtime and cholines throughout the night, I've never tried that....maybe worth a try! |
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FryingMan's Unified Theory of Lucid Dreaming: Pay Attention, Reflect, Recall -- Both Day and Night[link]
FryingMan's Dream Recall Tips -- Awesome Links
“No amount of security is worth the suffering of a mediocre life chained to a routine that has killed your dreams.”
"...develop stability in awareness and your dreams will change in extraordinary ways" -- TYoDaS
Attempt #3: long night of quite vivid dreams, lots of wakings, recall spotty, no lucids. |
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FryingMan's Unified Theory of Lucid Dreaming: Pay Attention, Reflect, Recall -- Both Day and Night[link]
FryingMan's Dream Recall Tips -- Awesome Links
“No amount of security is worth the suffering of a mediocre life chained to a routine that has killed your dreams.”
"...develop stability in awareness and your dreams will change in extraordinary ways" -- TYoDaS
Attempt #3.5, sort of an experiment: on the night after attempt #3 I took 300mg AlphaGPC alone during a middle of the night waking. Recall was OK but no lucidity. So the notion of galantamine taking a while to clear out of the body, so maybe trying more choline on subsequent nights, doesn't really pan out it seems, at least from this experiment. |
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FryingMan's Unified Theory of Lucid Dreaming: Pay Attention, Reflect, Recall -- Both Day and Night[link]
FryingMan's Dream Recall Tips -- Awesome Links
“No amount of security is worth the suffering of a mediocre life chained to a routine that has killed your dreams.”
"...develop stability in awareness and your dreams will change in extraordinary ways" -- TYoDaS
At the end of my first year of pretty intensive LD/DY training I began a galantamine program where I took 8 mg every Saturday night for a year or so. After a bit of experimenting I settled on taking it during WBTB at the beginning of my third dream cycle. At that time I had trained myself to wake at the end of each two hour REM cycle to journal. |
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