How much are you taking? You might need to lower the dose. Galantamine makes it hard to get back to sleep plus a little too much of it makes you too aware. |
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Greetings folks - I've read Thomas' book and as per recommendations have tried the wake and dose method for lucidity using Choline and Galantamine on 4 separate occasions (with requisite recovery time in between) and each time I've ended up in a state that verges on falling asleep and staying awake. |
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How much are you taking? You might need to lower the dose. Galantamine makes it hard to get back to sleep plus a little too much of it makes you too aware. |
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Last edited by Darkmatters; 12-11-2011 at 01:34 AM.
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I know exactly what state you are referring to. I get stuck here more often than I would like. It is frustrating, but not entirely unpleasant. I find I can still enjoy and interact with the dream. The dream feels more like a vivid daydream. It is almost like I am too lucid, which leads to constant awareness of my real body in bed. |
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Ive had similar problems. I'll get in the dream somewhat, and its like im halfway in between the dream world and the real world. And the other day, I finally got into the dream and jumped out this window onto a parking garage roof, but then like always, the dream became unstable and I woke up. Happens all to often. |
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Every passing minute is another chance to turn it all around.
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I have just started to take Galantamine and Choline for the first time. First time I took 5-htp (100mg) before bed, and then slept for 3 hours after naturally waking up (3:15am) and stayed up for 15mins, took galantamine (8mg) and choline (500mg) and went to bed, I was probably too excited to fall asleep, but I eventually did after about 1.5h (4:30am). I experienced WILD (intense buzzing in the ears and levitating out of bed) and kept having false awakenings. I was lucid but it was very fuzzy. I had decent recall, but it was just fuzzy during most of my dreaming. |
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I'd say more likely it's the Galantamine. A little too much makes you too aware and it's like being partially awake. I always struggle with effects of this when I take G - getting too much real-body signals such as the feeling of cloth all over my body translating into me wearing a robe slippers and mittens in the dream, or having difficulty walking as if I'm drunk or difficulty seeing right or thinking. Basically it's as if I'm drunk all too often when I take G. Try cutting back to half the dosage - the idea is to take the smallest dose that will work for you and no more. |
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Last edited by Darkmatters; 12-18-2011 at 10:23 PM.
Yea I took the B-complex during the day before the lucid dreaming attempt like Yuschak said in his book. |
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Try sleeping for an extra hour before taking the G |
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I've been reading through this thread over the past week, and received my galantamine/choline combo from dreamamins two days ago. |
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Sorry, didn't see this until now. |
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Last edited by Darkmatters; 01-01-2012 at 12:21 AM.
Nasty stuff, tried many times, but always makes me ill the next day or two... |
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First night trying this shit, i want to say its the last, but i just bought a whole pack of it... |
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You're meant to take it during the day. It has a mentally stimulating effect. |
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For me this combination helped me remember my dreams, perhaps because they were more dynamic and filled with emotion. However, they did not make it any more likely that a dream would be lucid. My advice, similar to many others is that these may be better for those who have already learned how to turn their dreams lucid, and not the best for people just starting out who think that they are a shortcut. |
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Bacopa for improved recall
I just ordered my first bottle of Galantamind, so I'm looking pretty forward to experimenting with it and seeing what outcomes I happen across. |
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Last edited by Astrosomnia; 01-16-2012 at 04:59 AM.
Oh I've experienced exactly that on Galantamine! Several times in fact. Let me dig up the links to the relevant DJ entries... |
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Last edited by Darkmatters; 01-17-2012 at 02:53 AM.
I've had experiences on this stuff where I'll go in and out of my real body and lucid body. Like I'll get into a lucid halfway and then ill go back to my real body and this will go back and forth for a while. |
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Every passing minute is another chance to turn it all around.
(SP)12 (FA)10 (DEILD Chain)1 (DILD)6 (DEILD)2 (VILD)2
Im cautious to have another go at it, if it fucks up my sleep it fucks up my whole day at work so will have to wait it until the weekend. |
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Yeah, definitely don't do it on work nights! |
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I don't seem to get any side effects from the pills which is nice. I do have a hard time falling asleep once I take the pill, but I've started taking some L-Theanine along with it which helps me fall asleep like I should. Going to take some tonight if I can wake up 6 hours into sleep, don't want to wake up my girlfriend with the alarm |
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Mine arrived this morning! I'm going on a trip for the next four days, so I won't get a chance to try them but I'm keen to see how they go. Will keep you guys updated. |
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Hey guys. I've been following this thread for a while now. I got myself some Galantamind 4mg and some Choline Bitartrate 500mg. |
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Sure, try it with 800 and see if it makes a difference. There were plenty of times when I'd take 400 and get nothing, or just a slight effect, then wake up and take another cap and end up having a lucid. |
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