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      Quote Originally Posted by mcwillis View Post
      Saying that I am so stupid thus insinuating that you are so clever I am still waiting for you to rise to the challenge and come up with an analogy that would be more fitting to describe this most complex of spiritual ideas.
      Actually, although you keep claiming that it's "Xaq's" analogy, I'm the one that posted it on this thread. So I did rise to the challenge. Entirely accidentally too as I'm not in the habit of humoring delusional, egotistic warm-fuzzy junkies. I just hadn't read your post yet. I was addressing Omnis when I wrote it. Not that I take credit for it though. However at least it's not as incredibly broken as your analogy. Also, how do you get off calling me an egomaniac when you're the one claiming to be a god? Is this whole ruse just to allow you to deny that you're a stupid hairy monkey that's going to rot in the ground one day with not a single recourse to avoid that fate?
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      Quote Originally Posted by PhilosopherStoned View Post
      Actually, although you keep claiming that it's "Xaq's" analogy, I'm the one that posted it on this thread. So I did rise to the challenge. Entirely accidentally too as I'm not in the habit of humoring delusional, egotistic warm-fuzzy junkies. I just hadn't read your post yet. I was addressing Omnis when I wrote it. Not that I take credit for it though. However at least it's not as incredibly broken as your analogy. Also, how do you get off calling me an egomaniac when you're the one claiming to be a god? Is this whole ruse just to allow you to deny that you're a stupid hairy monkey that's going to rot in the ground one day with not a single recourse to avoid that fate?
      I don't think its incredibly broken, it served its purpose to get the idea across to debrajane. I don't think you're an egomaniac either, just an antagonistsic atheist/agnostic at times. I am a god, so are you as far a I am concerned. I have a book, 'You need not age nor die' by Donald C. Barrie. One doesn't have to suffer hairy monkey death if one doesn't wish too. It is possible to achieve immortality but you aren't going to believe this anyway so I won't say anymore on that point.

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      Quote Originally Posted by mcwillis View Post
      I don't think its incredibly broken, it served its purpose to get the idea across to debrajane.
      Of course it served to get the point across. One would expect that an incredibly broken analogy would be incredibly useful for getting an incredibly broken point across...

      I have a book, 'You need not age nor die' by Donald C. Barrie.
      I bet you have many such books. Here's a site selling this one. Note how spammy it is. It's basically a "product launch" page. Note how the whole page guides you to buying the one product. People with a critical mind will look at that and bounce out. However one can always make money off of weak minded fools. It's not exactyly tasteful business but one does what one has to do. I wonder if he's made enough to buy a Porsche off it yet. Has anybody ever sued this person after they followed his directions and died? Cause then he'd probably be in big trouble.
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      Man that site is pure evil in a poorly web-designed sandwich...

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      This thread got confusing really fast

      I welcome the idea of some "ascended" teacher walking the earth, but a teacher is just a teacher. Real or not, I'm curious either way because you can learn so much even from a con-artist. Discernment!

      I actually do believe in the second coming of Christ, just not so literally. I'm totally okay with anyone claiming to be God, being the modern deist I am. But even if I did believe it would make no difference for me. Why should I listen to them more than I should listen to myself?

      But I do believe this. If the Buddha really did promise to return in human form, he wouldn't be coming back to do what followers believe he is here to do. He wouldn't come to to reaffirm anyone's belief, but to shatter them all.

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      Quote Originally Posted by PhilosopherStoned View Post
      I bet you have many such books.
      Yes I do; hundreds of them.

      Quote Originally Posted by PhilosopherStoned View Post
      Here's a site selling this one. Note how spammy it is. It's basically a "product launch" page. Note how the whole page guides you to buying the one product. People with a critical mind will look at that and bounce out. However one can always make money off of weak minded fools. It's not exactyly tasteful business but one does what one has to do. I wonder if he's made enough to buy a Porsche off it yet. Has anybody ever sued this person after they followed his directions and died? Cause then he'd probably be in big trouble.
      That website is just a reseller of the book and has no affiliation with the publisher. The book, as far as Im aware, is out of print. The vast majority of people wouldn't be able to generate the discipline required to follow the books instructions. The book contains some very interesting information for the more discerning reader of occult literature.

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      Buddhism clearly states that the buddha will only return when all knowledge of the buddha has left the earth so this matreiya is obviously a fraud.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Xaqaria View Post
      Buddhism clearly states that the buddha will only return when all knowledge of the buddha has left the earth so this matreiya is obviously a fraud.
      I expected this to happen. As I have pointed out elsewhere Maitreya was Maitreya before the time of buddhism. Maitreya is not a buddhist, never has been and never will be.

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      Just like all false prophets, it claims a connection when its convenient and then tries to disassociate when there is a contradiction.

      "I am the next buddha"

      "But the last buddha said there would not be another one until all memory of him had faded...?"

      "I wouldn't know anything about that, I'm not a buddhist..."

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      Maitrya will hold the position of planetary Christ for the next two to three thousand years until the age of Capricorn. Then the buddha will return to hold this office as planetary Christ. Interestingly this is when the next world war will take place, not on the physical plane as a physical war but on the mental plane.

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      Seems like we're already fighting a mental war.

      Reason vs Repetition has been the heart of atrocity since WW1. Fear based faith vs faith based openness, and other such descriptors are also valid.

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      Quote Originally Posted by juroara View Post
      But I do believe this. If the Buddha really did promise to return in human form, he wouldn't be coming back to do what followers believe he is here to do. He wouldn't come to to reaffirm anyone's belief, but to shatter them all.
      If by Buddha, you mean the Shakyamuni Buddha, then he didn't promise to return. To become a Buddha is to take one's last birth. After that, there's nothing. Or everything. Or something. But no more incarnations as a human or anything else.

      I agree comepletely with the second point that I quoted though.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Xaqaria View Post
      Buddhism clearly states that the buddha will only return when all knowledge of the buddha has left the earth so this matreiya is obviously a fraud.
      Well amitabha didn't said he was going to return he said that he's gonna wait till every man passes from where he did.
      But then again good point

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      As for rites like "seventh seal" and "each religion carrying a message" and rites that have been said in ancient testaments
      I would be suspicious to the fact that media can literally construct any form of infomation to the limits of propaganda.
      Persons who contribute to humanity like christ like buddha like ghandhi were alone till collective found them didn't promote themselves into anything maybe even hide from it.
      Maybe were not to the limits of our extinction and maybe the damage we get is the damage we are doing to ourselves.
      Apart from the fact that the best source for any insight can be in the best case a teacher,"master" is a disguise of a trickster.
      I trust the potential in me to see my self for what it is not "rely" on any master who is going to take the responsibility of myself,like a six year old who can take responsibility that he broke something.

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      I don't like any prophecy unless the prophet swears the information came from aliens. Then it's probably legit.

      Everything works out in the end, sometimes even badly.


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      Creme is a fruad who has many times predicted maitreya coming forward.... but never has. I'm no Christian... But this Maitreya sounds a lot like the anti christ predicted in the bible. I once watched a video where a christian woman attended a channeling session by creme. when the woman loudly recited the lord's payer, creme suddenly lost his ability to channel maitreya during that session. This maitreya must not be very powerful at all if a simple prayer can keep him away.
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      Maitreya is the principle of inevitable buddhahood lying dormant in all beings. It is a mistake to look for Him outside of yourself, and this whole thread is silly. The reason why we haven't had the 'promised ascension' in the past few years is because everyone is waiting for Jesus when they are Christ.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Man of Shred View Post
      Creme is a fruad who has many times predicted maitreya coming forward.... but never has. I'm no Christian... But this Maitreya sounds a lot like the anti christ predicted in the bible. I once watched a video where a christian woman attended a channeling session by creme. when the woman loudly recited the lord's payer, creme suddenly lost his ability to channel maitreya during that session. This maitreya must not be very powerful at all if a simple prayer can keep him away.
      I intially thought this information was nonesense until I experienced very strange manifestations of energy whenever I read Share International magazine or any of the books written by Mr. Creme. This pushed me to do a little more digging and then Maitreya came and visited me and convinced me that He does exist and that he must have an incredibly high, advanced spiritual status. I have met Mr. Creme several times to attend a transmission meditation meeting and I don't think he is a fraud. He is an interesting man, he has an attitude that he doesn't care if you believe him or not, he just presents his message and leaves it to the individual to come to their own conclusion. He seems rather detached from the whole business which initially surprised me but I now understand that he is just making people aware of this and that he isn't trying to convince anyone. Mr. Creme hasn't made any predicitions as Maitreya came forward in 1977 when he left his abode deep in the Himalayan mountains and moved to London. It is then simply a matter of time until he makes himself known to the entire population of the world.

      In January 1980 Mr Creme was invited to the USA for the first time and by January 1982 had given over 90 lectures in 28 states, and over 70 radio and television interviews. In January 1982 Share International magazine was launched. It was a truly international, collaborative effort, produced by volunteers in the UK, Holland and the USA.

      On 3 February 1982 Mr Creme appeared on the famous US Merv Griffin show alongside author Gore Vidal, which reached tens of millions. Afterwards, Tara Center, the US headquarters in Los Angeles, received around 200 new enquiries each day.

      In March 1982, following intense US media attention, the Emergence groups embarked on a worldwide advertising campaign to alert the press and public to Maitreya’s presence. Within weeks $250,000 had been raised, mainly by small donations. On 24 and 25 April 1982 millions of readers of 18 major newspapers across the world saw the full-page advertisement. It began: 'The world has had enough of hunger, injustice, war. In answer to our call for help, as World Teacher for all humanity, the Christ is now here.'

      The advertisements evoked widespread interest, which continued for many years. People still remember, today, the renewed hope these advertisements gave them.

      An invitation for Maitreya to speak was still needed from the media, to allow Him to declare Himself openly, and it was hoped that the advertisements and recent media coverage would bring this about. However, Benjamin Creme’s Master revealed to him that the Hierarchy had 'a contingency plan'. Asked what that might be, his Master replied: 'Hold a press conference. Tell the world what you know.'

      A press conference, therefore, was organised at the Ambassador Hotel, Los Angeles, on 14 May 1982. Over 90 journalists attended, from ABC, CNN, CBS, NBC, BBC, The Times, The New York Times, Newsweek and Time magazine, and other major media. The event was linked via satellite to the UK’s BBC Nationwide programme. Benjamin Creme announced for the first time where Maitreya was living – the Asian community of London, UK. The journalists were open to the information and even applauded about the need for sharing and justice. Mr Creme appealed for a small group of respected journalists to be assigned to go to London to 'go through the motions only of looking for Maitreya'. Maitreya would then allow Himself to be discovered. Mr Creme recalls: 'When the American media asked the BBC what they were planning to do, they replied: 'Nothing.' The Americans said: 'But why not? It is a fantastic story.' The BBC’s reply was: ‘We know, but we are waiting for more tangible evidence.’ No journalists were appointed to the task, so Maitreya could not come forward.

      Although it was seen by the Masters as a 'long shot worth taking', it was hoped that Maitreya would be revealed after the press conference. As we know, the plan did not follow that timescale. Maitreya could not become public without an invitation, otherwise it would infringe our freewill. He therefore embarked on a slower process of emergence, which is now nearing completion. But the events of 1982 were seen by Hierarchy as a tremendous success for the Emergence work: millions were made aware for the first time of Maitreya and His message. The effort and energy expended in this extraordinary year of concentrated, service activity had profound karmic results. In the last 30 years thousands have found their life’s work in preparing the way for Maitreya. Enormous changes have taken place in response to His energies, and millions have been inspired to work for world transformation. Today humanity is awakening, and is ready to work together to build a new world.

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      Spare me your nonsense. If I ever meet this maitreya. I will pray that jesus stick an icicle up his Bum. And changes? what changes? The world is still as messed up as it was years ago. If he can be beaten by a simple prayer then he is no teacher of mine.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Man of Shred View Post
      Spare me your nonsense.
      Then don't post in here then, simple. Maitreya and the being that was once Jesus work very closely together. Jesus reincarnated as Apollonius of Tyana, took the fifth initiation in that lifetime achieving Masterhood and still remains in that body on our planet as taking the fifth initiation means that one's cycle of reincarnation is over. The changes are only known by the Masters; I remember in the early 80's pleading with my father that we needed to build an underground bunker as nuclear war was a real and present danger at that time. That still exists but nowehere near to the extent that it was back then; I am quite happy to presume that that is one of the major changes for a start. As for prayer Maitreya manifested literally out of thin air at a christian prayer & healing meeting in Nairobi, Kenya and many people were spontaneously healed of their ilnesses. The editor of the Swahili edition of the Kenya Times, veteran journalist Job Mutungi, witnessed the event and took some pictures as well as it being reported in the Kenya Times

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      Quote Originally Posted by mcwillis View Post
      Then don't post in here then, simple. Maitreya and the being that was once Jesus work very closely together. Jesus reincarnated as Apollonius of Tyana, took the fifth initiation in that lifetime achieving Masterhood and still remains in that body on our planet as taking the fifth initiation means that one's cycle of reincarnation is over. The changes are only known by the Masters; I remember in the early 80's pleading with my father that we needed to build an underground bunker as nuclear war was a real and present danger at that time. That still exists but nowehere near to the extent that it was back then; I am quite happy to presume that that is one of the major changes for a start. As for prayer Maitreya manifested literally out of thin air at a christian prayer & healing meeting in Nairobi, Kenya and many people were spontaneously healed of their ilnesses. The editor of the Swahili edition of the Kenya Times, veteran journalist Job Mutungi, witnessed the event and took some pictures as well as it being reported in the Kenya Times
      You were build a bunker for nuclear war?

      WTF guy?

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      I can post here if I like This forum is mainly unmoderated. as for your information on Jesus what credible source states that he re incarnated?
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      Quote Originally Posted by Man of Shred View Post
      I can post here if I like This forum is mainly unmoderated. as for your information on Jesus what credible source states that he re incarnated?
      I believe the same credibility of the first one.

      (Im only answering because i've got too much free time to spare.)

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