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      Quote Originally Posted by Universal Mind View Post
      Is that a yes or a no?
      Are these straight lines or curved lines? If you answer mine I will answer yours. Or does this have to be double standard or your theory falls apart?

      straight line or curved.jpg

      Whatever your answer is I'm going to say the same thing back to you and it's what you decided. face it, that's checkmate.

      you were only trying to use illogic to trap me into saying something illogical. You should play fair instead of cheating.
      If I said straight line (or yes) you will bring up the curve. If I say curved line (or no) you will bring up the straight line.
      In addition if I said both straight and curved. You would bring up only straight. If I said neither. you would bring up both.

      This illustrates your strategy of trolling me.

      Quote Originally Posted by Linkzelda
      science may not be the perfect solution, but it's more practical[/I]
      Wrong, that science is more practical is just your assumption. You cant save earth from environmental pollution and destruction with today's science. Yet native Americans and other native people lived for thousands of years without science and didn't hardly cut down even 1 tree. So if you think environmental destruction of the earth is a practical thing, more practical than having a clean environment, then that's why you believe in science to get things done.

      As I have said science is a method, It is socially constructed and cultural. That is not debatable that is accepted by sociologist. Only scientist debate that because their faith is science. lol

      Methods are not how you get things done even. One method can work at one time, and then fail at another time. So you can't even rely on any kind of method, let alone a scientific method. Just like you can't rely on witchcraft to get results. Neither can you rely on science to get results.

      If you do a spell and something happens the witch says "i cast a spell, and looked what happened" but they didn't cast a spell at all. It's superstition.

      Likewise if you do something with science and something works you say "It's my theory and I experimented and look what happenedt". but it's just as delusional as the witchcraft!

      Lets looks at it another way.

      A witch waves her wand and says, every time i wave my wand the light in my room goes off. I'm magic.
      But what the witch doesn't know is the person who designed the building made it so every time the light senses the wand, it turns it off. So it's not actually her doing anything.

      Like wise a scientist may say, "look, every time I drop a ball it falls. Gravity"
      But what the scientist might not realize is that it's only being designed that way it's not a set rule. Anyone could change it in an instant and a 'witch' who is closer to god might fly around and there is even accounts of that in history.

      So how do you ensure results? by being closer to god. That's the only possible way. When god favors you. He will do things for you. If he does not favor you, there is nothing you can do to stop him preventing your method from working

      Why do you think Jesus could perform so many miracles? Because god favored him he was closer to god.

      In the lasts days of tribulation the bible speaks of people who will use that logic to deceive others. For instance they will perform 'great wonders' and people will think they must be closer to god, follow them. But this is a deception that is coming. You are NOT meant to rely on that. You can't rely on outer signs that way, this will be one of the tests made. If you only follow the miracles, the miracles will lead to the Anti-Christ.

      Which is what this song is all about if you listen carefully.



      I'm going to explain the lyrics

      The boy's got a head like an atom bomb

      (atom bomb refers to lots of energy. Jesus had a lot of life energy to effect things. Also atom is similar to saying adam, first man)

      Hang him from a cross like the number one son
      (people seen it as dangerous to their social order)

      And he's been waiting so long
      To get it on

      (This speaks about revelations that are coming)

      The boy's 15 but he's 16 gauge
      (you have to understand numbers here the same way you would understand them in the bible, notice how it don't make sense saying his 15 or 16 gauge because it's not really referring to numbers the way we currently understand them)

      Wants to break out from his Jesus cage
      (he is talking now about this generation that will live to see revelations come to pass. Jesus cage refers to god limiting someone)

      He's already torn out the last page
      (this is about taking apart the bible or examining it without understanding what it really is)

      It's the "latest rage"
      (the latest rage is to fight against true bible believers)

      Violence for the people
      They always eat the hand that bleeds

      (this is referring to Jesus on the cross again, they got violent images of jesus on the cross all as they are growing up )

      Violence for the people
      Give the kids what they need
      (they need to see this)

      Kill your god,Kill your god
      (this has a double meaning, it means we killed Jesus christ. but it also means Kill science, that has become your god)

      Kill your TV
      (a double meaning again. The television promotes deception and you should destroy it. But television also refers to scientific observation of the world around us, just like we look at a television. Science looks at the world)

      The boy's purified by the quitter gods

      (the quitter gods are the fallen ones, they give up their entire soul, and are made into a puppet for satan. Meanwhile satan purifies all those against him)

      Burning up his cross like a revelation
      (This is a hard one to explain.A cross is a symbol for sacrifice, and every time you make a sacrifice for god. You reveal gods power through you it actually destroys the amount of sacrifices you are required to make. The revelation is the truth that opens your eyes.

      And his glass jaw opens

      glass is a boundary that you don't realize exists. When you work for god, you discover his word is creating the boundaries of reality, and you can see the boundaries of reality open up before you.

      Like a puppet head

      (People who speak for god, they are not actually speaking for themselves at all. They are a puppet for god)

      This is what you should fear
      You are what you should fear

      (We are seen as in sin out of the garden of eden from our disobedience to god. This is what we should fear)

      The title of the song is a reference to about what happens in the end times. And the thing we are in fear of is Satan.

      This song comes from Satan. Mostly all music today comes from Lucifer, He was well known in heaven for his musical ability!

      Not only that but the way imagery is used in the previous video is very effective to convey the message also. Wan't called the Angel of light for nothing.

      If you still don't believe this is from Lucifer mostly guiding the music industry.......

      Last edited by anderj101; 05-09-2013 at 11:42 PM. Reason: MERGED

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