Obe might be real, but all serious scientific experiments that have been done have turned up negative. Another thing that speaks against it is that no one has got Randis 1 million$ price yet. |
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Yeah, I have heard of OBE cases where a person actually moved a box in front an audience, but Aquanina's post presents a better one because it involves scientific instrument that captured the presence. |
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Obe might be real, but all serious scientific experiments that have been done have turned up negative. Another thing that speaks against it is that no one has got Randis 1 million$ price yet. |
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Last edited by Immortaleagle; 02-12-2011 at 09:10 PM.
"If you want to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first create the universe".
Carl Sagan
One thought to be taken into consideration is that thoughts in general may have more power than we allow. i have a theory that if we believe or try to mentally project to an object (no matter how obsurd it sounds), that it could also give a similar but possibly weaker reading to the "ghost hunting machines". To an extent, I think thoughts are in themselves, more than just a figment. My only possible reasoning about why dreams or obe's have more effect would be that we BELIEVE we can do it more in dreams. The correlation has yet to be proven, but it should be considered. Also, may I also bring Quantum physics back into this? Those who doubt, can you even prove that this world is not a dream by itself? Or that it even exists? You can't prove it. Don't worry, neither can we. |
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I have actually thought of this as well. Geez, everyone on this site is stealing my ideas. Could you imagine it actually posting? |
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HAHHAH, I had a dream where I did this a week ago. I had an LD where I was on my computer and I thought of this thread and posted, then I FAed a little later and had a non-lucid where this actually worked and my mind was completely blown. |
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157 is a prime number. The next prime is 163 and the previous prime is 151, which with 157 form a sexy prime triplet. Taking the arithmetic mean of those primes yields 157, thus it is a balanced prime.
Women and rhythm section first - Jaco Pastorious
157 is a prime number. The next prime is 163 and the previous prime is 151, which with 157 form a sexy prime triplet. Taking the arithmetic mean of those primes yields 157, thus it is a balanced prime.
Women and rhythm section first - Jaco Pastorious
That is not an experiment. That's a major misunderstanding of science and dreams. |
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Total downer. What if dreamviews has some super mind reading beam that auto posts things you post in dreams (Just kidding, I am very knowledgeable in many sciences and electronics). But still, why not try it? What's to lose? What if some people's beliefs are true (including mine) that dreams are different areas of existence, maybe wireless frequencies can be transmitted between these areas and we can actually browse the web from our dreams (that would be freak'n cool). |
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Try it in an OBE/AP, OBEs are hard for me but if I get a chance I will try. with OBE/AP it just might work. |
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No we don't. For example how does messages get passed from real world to dream world? And how do prophetic dreams work? |
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The idea that the dream world is a "spereate" world has little to no evidence to support it. The idea that the dream world exists inside our heads has a lot. |
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157 is a prime number. The next prime is 163 and the previous prime is 151, which with 157 form a sexy prime triplet. Taking the arithmetic mean of those primes yields 157, thus it is a balanced prime.
Women and rhythm section first - Jaco Pastorious
Exactly, which proves my point that you are just trying to find evidence to support your beliefs. |
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I have a thread called "World Wide Shared Dreaming web" |
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REALITY CHECK
A (claimed) magician's point of view: |
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that is already occuring; the self bridges using recall |
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Last edited by I U; 05-23-2011 at 11:39 PM.
A few weeks ago, I had a FA where I woke up and wrote my dream down on DV. When I woke up, the DJ entry wasn't there. |
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This is an interesting experiment. Technically speaking the universe is a big system of information. From what ive read at this point (in books and research) The dream world seems to be like another "layer" of reality. If a person is a very experienced lucid dreamer/Astral Projector then its possible that they could figure out how to do it- although it would take quite a bit of time, maybe even years. |
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So, has anybody tried this yet? All I've seen in this thread is just pure speculation. |
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