Thread: Menthol as a Dream Enhancer

Originally Posted by Alyzarin

Good luck then! I hope you do, that would be good for everyone.

Thanks, i'll definitely try it. I don't mind eating the whole pack since i'll still have 33 Negros left that i can test with later (or just eat for fun) ^^

Originally Posted by Wolfwood

I've eaten half the pack already.

That goes fast, lol. Do you just chew it like bubblegum? xD

Originally Posted by Alyzarin

How can you even stand it? X) I've yet to try a cough drop I actually enjoyed the taste of.

I always thought about Halls as candy.. and i like candy ... i didn't even know people use them as cough drops before i heard about it in this thread

Yep, basically just munching through 'em. I like the feeling when I take deep breaths... reckon they'd be good during meditation.

Originally Posted by Alyzarin

How can you even stand it? X) I've yet to try a cough drop I actually enjoyed the taste of.

Oh yeah, don't know if you saw. I'm drinking alcohol simultaneously.... good/bad?

Originally Posted by Wolfwood

Oh yeah, don't know if you saw. I'm drinking alcohol simultaneously.... good/bad?

Hmm.... I can't think of any immediate contraindications, and a quick search didn't reveal any. I would probably avoid drinking too much since you're experimenting with something new, anyway. A word of warning... alcohol makes salvia way more intense, so there may be some synergy here as well.

Well, the alcohol aspect is...um...done now. I've already got that effect where things in my peripheral look like they're moving from a breeze (but they're not).

Wait, from the alcohol or the menthol? o.o

Originally Posted by Alyzarin

Wait, from the alcohol or the menthol? o.o

I don't know lol. Finished the whole pack now too. It's not just in my peripheral (though more pronounced), if I stare at my jacket on the door it starts to breathe, like a chest. I am mildly sleep deprived too. So combining this all...

Originally Posted by Wolfwood

I don't know lol. Finished the whole pack now too. It's not just in my peripheral (though more pronounced), if I stare at my jacket on the door it starts to breathe, like a chest. I am mildly sleep deprived too. So combining this all...

Oh boy, try not to go crazy. >w< That type of visual sounds fitting for what I would expect of menthol... but with all that it's hard to say so far. I guess we'll see.

I'm sure that's because of the alcohol... lol.

Mmm, I have consumed a whole bottle of wine.

Originally Posted by littlezoe

I'm sure that's because of the alcohol... lol.

You never know, especially with Wolfwood. Alcohol doesn't make me see breathing visuals normally, though I can't speak for him.

Originally Posted by Wolfwood

Mmm, I have consumed a whole bottle of wine.

Pfft, just a bottle?

Originally Posted by Alyzarin

You never know, especially with Wolfwood. Alcohol doesn't make me see breathing visuals normally, though I can't speak for him.



Pfft, just a bottle?

lol, it wasn't my intention to drink. I stumbled upon it under my chair...

That's the only thing I'm not sensitive to though, strangely. All chemicals hit me hard, but alcohol.. I'm relatively sane no matter how much I drink. Until I have so much that I just can't move.

Originally Posted by Wolfwood

lol, it wasn't my intention to drink. I stumbled upon it under my chair...

Uhhu, I'm sure.

Originally Posted by Alyzarin

Uhhu, I'm sure.

Why did I make it look like I was lying? lol good one, Wolfwood.

Fuckin' up, you're too drunk for this. X) Feeling anything from that menthol yet? There should definitely be something at some point if you took that much, even if it doesn't make you really trip. It does have some pain killing effects at lower (relative to hallucinogenic) doses, but I suppose they might go unnoticed if you don't look for them.

Definitely more pronounced now... I can't tell if something is swaying or not. Have to grab it to determine. I feel a bit detached and sick.

Veeeery interesting.... I wonder how effective the dose will actually be? Like, if it'll level out soon or keep going....

If you're feeling sick, you might just have an upset stomach from the menthol, like someone mentioned before. Probably not the greatest combo with alcohol. >.< But just puke or something if you have to, that usually makes drug nausea go away.

Originally Posted by Alyzarin

Veeeery interesting.... I wonder how effective the dose will actually be? Like, if it'll level out soon or keep going....

Wow... I switched off all the lights and screen. In utter darkness, the effect is well good. I see moving shadow 'things' come out from objects. Only if I focus on an area for about 5 seconds though.

Oh wow, I'd say it's definitely active then. Tripping off menthol.... Well, there's another drug you can cross off your to-do list.

Okay just to warn you guys, the recommended amount is 200micrograms per kilo a day. The fatal amount is anything over 1g per kilo of body weight. So I'm thinking 120g might be a bit too much. Test subjects have reacted with headache, flush, rash, dizziness and hypertension from contact with menthol in a variety of forms, e.g., toothpaste, cigarette smoke, candies and medications. A few other symptoms are severe abdominal pain, nausea, vomiting, vertigo, ataxia, drowsiness and coma. Be carefull guys, I dont think you should go over 50g.

Here a menthol poisoning review http://goodhealth.freeservers.com/MentholToxicology.htm

I would believe that menthol causes this if he would do it without alcohol...

Originally Posted by Alyzarin

I definitely remember sexy dreams more easily, so that would make sense to me. Libido is also connected to D2 like dreaming, so they do kind of go hand in hand. That was a pretty cool entry, though. Sounds like a fun place to be. And you're welcome, I'm glad it's helped you!

Vibrations always turn me on. >w< They just feel so amazing. I definitely get what you're referring to with the visual change, that's one of the big things for me too. There's a definite increase in the amount of detail of the sceneries, or at least how much I notice them. The tea will probably be much easier on the stomach than the cough drops, I bet it'd help you a lot to switch over. I'm intending to try some tonight, so we'll see how that goes!

Yeah the vibrations are really cool. They are a really nice feeling. I look forward to more, although when I was younger (late teens) then that type of thing used to scare the crap out of me. I used to get the 'old hag' type nightmares, etc. where you cannot move. (I tend only to work on dreams around WBTB rather than before when it is light.)
Yes that dream I had was really great, although not exactly the Moloko bar however! I did do a drawing as an attachment later, however it doesn't do the dream justice as I have used artistic licence, especially regarding the t-shirt, etc. The drawing did highlight the slightly odd breast shape on the bar girl as I couldn't explain it with words without sounding bad.
I found when I tried B6 (10mg) at WBTB, that the dream (even a lucid one) was odd. I would get 'inertia' or 'pulling' type sensations and the odd strange visual.
With the Menthol I seem to be in a lighter sleep where I notice the vibrations more, etc. I hope to try 2 or 3 lozenges tomorrow morning (Sat) during a WBTB.

Originally Posted by dutchraptor

Okay just to warn you guys, the recommended amount is 200micrograms per kilo a day. The fatal amount is anything over 1g per kilo of body weight. So I'm thinking 120g might be a bit too much. Test subjects have reacted with headache, flush, rash, dizziness and hypertension from contact with menthol in a variety of forms, e.g., toothpaste, cigarette smoke, candies and medications. A few other symptoms are severe abdominal pain, nausea, vomiting, vertigo, ataxia, drowsiness and coma. Be carefull guys, I dont think you should go over 50g.

Here a menthol poisoning review Toxicology Module 1st installed Wednesday Nov 15, 2000

50g? We're on mg... me, 120mg. Oh oh, and not 200 mcg lol... that's mentally small. You mean mg, right?