Thread: Reality As You Know It Does Not Exist

Originally Posted by Kromoh

You completely bent what I said. I understand it all. I understand it so well because I've been where you are now - ages ago. And now that I look back, I see how flawed my opinion was at the time. One doesn't have to change his beliefs every time they are questioned - especially because I know some very wise people who hold the same view I do. Of course that doesn't prove my point, but makes my point more likely to be true.

I hate to seem like I'm insulting you rather than simply stating my opinion, but the above is nothing but rhetoric.

If you truly "understand it all" please explain quantum entanglement in a way that coincides with your world view. So far, your argument can be summed up as "I know I'm right, because I once thought like you and I ascended. And I know smart people that agree with me."

I'm looking for substance, Kromoh. You don't seem to understand that by posting what you've posted, you're basically telling me that I'm not smart enough to differentiate a credible argument from "stupid believer stuff." I'm calling you out to lend some credence to your position on that, and you've done nothing but state how you're right because you know you're right.

Originally Posted by Kromoh

You just have no idea how completely outside of the box my opinion comes from. Outside the human perception box. Outside the opinion, will, instinct, ideal box. Outside the ego box. Hence, ego-loss.

Again, I've been where you are, and I say you are completely losing your point discussing with me. It's like a child trying to teach an adult why 2+2=4, and I again state that I don't mean to sound arrogant. I've had a realization scarcely few people have.

For one not meaning to sound arrogant, you're doing a good job of it, and without a single shred of substance or a willingness to go down a road that will cause you to produce substance. In essence, I can't debate with someone who stands in a position that you do, because you feel that it's adequate to defend your position with nothing but "I'm right because I'm right. You haven't reached my level yet, so you don't understand."

I can easily play your game and say that I've tried to hold a logical debate with scores of people who take that exact same tone, but I'd rather discuss this on a level that gets right down to the meat and potatoes of the other person's perspective. It's a shame that you refuse to do that.

Originally Posted by Kromoh

And to rest my case: The logic answer is always the simplest one there is.

Ah. Occam's Razor. Something that I don't fully subscribe to, and have stated why, plenty of times, here at DV.

The simplest explanation for something is often the laziest. (Don't forget that logic, itself, is relative.) It is basically one's admission that they are laying down the gauntlet to truth in the light of something that subjectively just kinda "makes sense." It's someone's way of saying "you know what, this makes sense to me, so I don't need to keep digging to find out whether or not it's right. I'm just going to stop right here." And it's something that I find rather irresponsible. Not saying that it's not often right, don't get me wrong, but to sum it up in a way you just did tells me that you have no interest in investigating further than the simplistic.

In short: I've been where you are, and I've ascended.