Thread: 99 Breaths to Relief a Wandering Mind

Well, this thread's been deceased for almost three years, but I have some results and questions to post.

I have had this HUGE lucid dream block lately (I've had a maximum of 2 per month for the past 2 or 3 months), and I thought that this morning would be a nice time to try to WILD, to see if I could force a lucid dream upon myself. I found this thread last night, so I was planning on using this technique to enter the dream state, or at least become relaxed enough to enter by other methods. Everything started out well enough: I got up, went to the bathroom, got some water, and went back to my bed. I blew my nose because I figured that if it was stuffy then it would interfere with the relaxed breathing. I began to do the counting, and everything seemed to go the way it was supposed to until about 75 or so. My arms and legs lost tension like they were supposed to, but then stuff started going wrong. First I noticed that there was no hypnagogic imagery, no tingling, no vibrations, nothing. I was also being constantly interrupted by my rumbling stomach. Then, at about 60 or so, my throat started to burn. At 50, I was literally shaking trying not to cough. At 48, I involuntarily let out this burst of coughs and completely lost it. After this, I got some water and decided to try again. This time, however, my throat started burning at 90. I kind of gave up at this point, but I couldn't even go back to sleep normally because I kept coughing, so I just got up for good.
All the coughing was probably my fault, in that I tried to do this while sick. Hey, I'm the Desperate Dreamer. So here are my few questions: 1) Will a rumbling stomach actually disturb this process, or that of WILDing? 2) Does swallowing mess you up, or can you just let yourself swallow when the need arises? 3) Is the coughing and burning throat because I'm sick, or does it happen to others? 4) Why did only the instructions for breaths 100-80 come true for me?
Sorry for ranting, I just would really like help.

Originally Posted by hyperangel13

Question: Instead of "bringing you back", do you think you could modify the words to be like "When I count from 1 to 5, I will enter a lucid dream"? Would that work? Would it work if I was just going to bed after a long, tiring day? X'D

i am also curious if ths would work!

You can try that, but it's not meant for autosuggestion, autosuggestion requires you to insert a single idea in your mind, this technique is meant to clear your mind of everything.

I'd really like to master a form of WBTB, and this looks like it might be a good way to induce a WILD. Would this relaxation/mind-clearing technique be a reliable way to enter a WILD, if it's done right? If it is, I'll be really thankful; mastering the WILD would allow me to get past my lucid block and to stop relying on DILDs, which rarely occur for me.

Lately my thoughts have been so rampant, that I cant count. My mind wanders from counting and onto other things

I assume though that your method os more of a "clearing your head" thing rather than a WILD/ WBTB, or could this be used for those also?

i think a still mind is massively important for lucidity. ive been doing my usual trick of thinking i can read mysel to lucidity, and reading so much that when i go to bed my mind has a hell of a lot to catch up on and integrate. my dreams as a result have been rambling epics without even a minute to stop and ponder whats going on. sometimes less is definately more and methods like these are just what it takes to get back to that still mind which is invaluable. cheers

actually i am worried that it might lead to sleep paralysis........
and if u just wanna sleep its not a good thing lol

Originally Posted by Kunal19

actually i am worried that it might lead to sleep paralysis........
and if u just wanna sleep its not a good thing lol

Well, don't forget that you're getting the same amount of rest whether you're lucid or not...so I'd suggest you go lucid.

I did this, and it took 20 minutes, like you said, but none of the things you described happened to me. All that happened was I felt tired and relaxed.

I had to count to 5000 breaths to have an LD but it was worth it since I had my longest ld so far 1:30hr+

Hey ninja, thanks for this great technique, yesterday night was the first time i tried this, i have to say it scared the shit out of me when i couldn't feel my body, but my mind was still there. I had intense vibrations, all over my body, including my face. I didn't know what to expect, i didn't expect it to work. It felt literally like i was melting away as you pointed out. When i finished i couldn't sleep, even though i was telling myself to, it could be because i smoked a marijuana before i got into bed. Maybe this is why i couldn't sleep. Anyways i'm happy i got to experience somewhat of a nightmare last night. I want to keep doing this technique and learning more about sleep. Thanks again

Hey ninja, just wanted to say it was the first time i read and experienced this technique. At first I was kind of scared, because my whole body had intense vibrations, i couldn't even move fingers. I don't think it worked proper, i smoked marijuana before i got into bed, although i had the symptoms, i wasn't able to fall asleep after the vibrations set in. Sativa keeps me up so this is probably why. I will try again tonight, i will not smoke marijuana all day. I was wondering also, if you knew how to get an out of body experience, relating to the sleep paralysis. Thanks again, this technique really opened my eyes to believe in methods of meditation. P.S This is my second attempt on writing a short response to your thread, the first time i don't think it went through.

I'm going to pee then try this I'm so tired. G'night

Originally Posted by SlickRick

I will try again tonight, i will not smoke marijuana all day.

I don't think you should be smoking marijuana all day in the first place...

I personally don't think it's any of your business, it doesn't kill so why not? keeps me sane, and i hate pills approved by the FDA, i kinda don't trust aliens, need more info?? i'm sure this was a topic about 99 Breaths to Relief a Wandering Mind, lets talk about it.

I could talk my case for hours, but I'll respect your wishes and not say anything. Good luck on going lucid!

Brilliant! I've tried this the last couple of nights and it didn't go quite to plan, every time I've had a really bad itch or something and had to stop. What would be the best course of action if you have to move? Also I noticed that when you have been doing it for a while or you finish and abruptly open your eyes, the hum in the back of your head suddenly gets to a higher frequency. Is that a good thing?
Aside all that, I'm sure that it would work brilliantly if I got it right .

Thanks for this, good guide.

This is a really good guide! It has helped me three nights in a row, and it lead to SP twice. This could be a really good way to induce a WILD. Thanks ninja.

Glad you guys are enjoying my technique

I've been doing something similar every night in bed for a few weeks now due to the fact I have a hard time getting to sleep. I always focus more on the counting to keep my mind on track. I will inhale and say the number then while exhaling I will say I am dreaming. I find on most nights while doing this I do not remember counting past 80m but I still like to start at 99 as I gives me a lot of numbers to go through. Hubs has told me more then once I have been asleep before him which is awesome and has never happened before without sleeping pills.

I also think this has lead to a few WILD/DILDs for me.

DG

I tried this last night, I couldn't really feel anything until the end, within the last 20 counts, I couldn't feel my body and I didn't want to try move just in case of sleep paralysis haha.

Then within the last 10-5 counts I could feel myself drifting off, my eyes were twitching intensely and I could see gray swirling things etc.
I got to 1 and I felt as though I was almost about to become unconscious or go into a WILD, except I just couldn't get there, I kept my breathing the same as it was with the counting, but I didn't have anymore numbers to count.
Everything was very intense.

Was I close to having a WILD?

This technique is awesome, I'm going to try again tonight because I can definitely tell it works, practice makes perfect.

Well, if you were doing it when first going to sleep then you can't WILD because you don't dream then.

I'm not entirely surprised that at 1 you felt a sudden change. It's similar to hypnosis, where you don't feel anything until the end of the count, even though you are going under the whole time you only become very aware of it at the end.

Best relaxation method I've ever tried. Although I modified it a bit, counting up to 99 and I was laying on the floor with my legs vertically against a wall. After about 30 breaths I got something I haven't before with relaxation but I think it is a good thing: it appeared as though there was a very bright light beyond my eyelids like you described and I barely managed to keep my eyes closed because I knew the only light in my room was a very dim lamp. I've also taken an interest in astral projection recently and decided to use this chance to give it a go (realized it wasn't a great idea soon after because of the odd position I was in) and tried to lift out my "other" arms, resulting in a temporary pins-and-needles feeling throughout my upper body, mostly in the arms. Not sure if it was something relevant or just the tingling sensation you mentioned from the relaxation. Thanks for this ninja!